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upgrade from 7900gs agp to 8600gts pcie should i?

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August 8, 2007 11:44:24 PM

i play bf-2142 and currently running a 7900gs agp with an old skt.478 p4 3.0ht 1mb cache and 2gigs ram. i can uprade now to a amd athlon 64 x2 3800+ and mobo with the 8600gts for a little over 200 bucks now.

i would like to know if this will get me better performance in 2142 (especially titan mode) as now with the 7900gs agp i still have some lag issues! does anyone have the 8600gts? and how does it play in bf-2142 and at what settings?

my best settings in game with my current setup in game is medium without AA on 1440x1050 display.

thanks to all responders and please keep in mind that this is a temporary change (if i do it) as i will build a new core2 rig this time next summer.
August 9, 2007 12:33:19 AM

you would see no extra performance from the 8600GTS, I haven't heard of a 7900GS for agp, are you sure you don't mean a 7800gs?

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August 9, 2007 12:54:20 AM

Oh, my bad :p 

well, if you're going to upgrade in a year anyway you might just want to buy an AM2 board with an agp slot, your 7900gs is about the same as the 8600GTS. If you really want to upgrade then maybe a X1950XT would be the better choice since it will give a larger performance boost in the same price range.

August 9, 2007 1:09:53 AM

The 8600GTS will do just fine, especially considering you're upgrading your cpu and mobo along with video card for $200.
August 9, 2007 1:56:50 AM

i don't think you can get 8600's in AGP anyway, but i'd get the XT1950XT Anyway much much faster than a 8600. If you run 2x Xt1950Xt's you can get close performance of a 8800 320MB.

What our better of doing is posting your specs somewhere and seeing if you should just get a new Mobo and PCI-E card rather than spending heaps on AGP.
August 9, 2007 2:16:09 AM

I recently went from 7600gt to x1950xt. The performance increase was astounding! 7900 gs is slightly better than 7600 gt, but you would definitely notice a performance increase still. You are unlikely to see any video card perf increase at all going to an 8600 gts.
August 9, 2007 4:25:52 AM

i am well aware there is no 8600 agp (or any g80 in agp for that matter) that is why i stated at first about gettin a amd skt 939 chip with a mobo to go with it and just salvage my current ddr 400 mem and piece this thing together. i guess what i'm hoping for is that a amd 64 x2 with the 8600gts could be an improvement over my current setup.

proc- p4 3.0ht 1mb cache 800fsb
mobo- asus p4p800e deluxe
mem- 2gigs geil ddr 400 (dual channel) at 2.5,3,3,7
hd- 80gigs
audio- SB audigy
gpu- 7900gs agp 256mb
August 9, 2007 4:26:13 AM

bertross said:
i don't think you can get 8600's in AGP anyway, but i'd get the XT1950XT Anyway much much faster than a 8600. If you run 2x Xt1950Xt's you can get close performance of a 8800 320MB.

What our better of doing is posting your specs somewhere and seeing if you should just get a new Mobo and PCI-E card rather than spending heaps on AGP.


You didn't read his entire post then. He said he would be switching from a P4 to an X2 3800+ and the 8600 would come with the new CPU. That obviously means a mobo change and most current mobos have PCI-E. You do make an off-hand point though. Doubletake, if you plan on getting that X2, make sure the mobo does indeed have PCI-e and not AGP.
August 9, 2007 4:47:02 AM

I'd have a look at the Over clocked 8600 GTS edition, MSI does one and I know of some others to. There usally the same price as the standard edition but run a bit better. :) 
August 10, 2007 2:37:28 PM

well everybody, looks like i wont be making any changes after all! i just couldn't except tha fact that i kept seeing other reviews about other systems comparable to mine and are running bf-2142 on high settings with AA on as well.

so i lookked into my mobo's bios again and rechecked everything and found one simple problem (man i could just kick myself for this one) that was easy to change: memory accelaration mode. changed it from "auto" to "enable" and now i have a different system! running 2142 on high with 2x AA (and on titan mode too) with smooth playing.

thanks to all you guys with your comments and trying to help! much appreciated!
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August 10, 2007 3:39:17 PM

i wouldnt do that , get a x1950 instead
August 10, 2007 4:39:07 PM

doubletake33 said:
well everybody, looks like i wont be making any changes after all! i just couldn't except tha fact that i kept seeing other reviews about other systems comparable to mine and are running bf-2142 on high settings with AA on as well.

so i lookked into my mobo's bios again and rechecked everything and found one simple problem (man i could just kick myself for this one) that was easy to change: memory accelaration mode. changed it from "auto" to "enable" and now i have a different system! running 2142 on high with 2x AA (and on titan mode too) with smooth playing.

thanks to all you guys with your comments and trying to help! much appreciated!



Awesome!
You might as well stretch all the life out of your rig as you can. I didn't know they made the 7900gs in agp, pretty cool. That should last until the 9000 series comes out. Don't go to socket 939 just to keep your RAM though...You won't be able to go past a 3800 x2.
August 10, 2007 4:42:46 PM

You might look at the Asrock dual-vsta has a PCIE and AGP slot and I believe you can use your old ram also.
August 10, 2007 6:05:36 PM

I AM GOING TO HIT YOU IN THE HEAD FOR EVEN CONSIDERING THE MOVE. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

NO

DONT DO IT.

7900 vs 8600? ARE YOU CRAZY!

The middle of the next range is never as good as the top of the last lot.

KEEP YOUR OLD CARD till you can get something like an 8800gts.

I wanted that asrock board, it is pretty damn cool, but you cant find the f'n expansion card anywhere. so it is a bit of a fat gimmick since nvidia decided to engulf ULi stopping the production of any of those cards. honesly it is a waste to keep that pc alive for much longer, the new nvidia lineup is going to hit pretty soon so save up and jump for it when AMD releases their Am3 and the 9800 or 8900 comes out whichever they decide to make. And who knows they might actually make an hd2900xtx (though i doubt it, and don't want it to happen thus making my card not the top)

If you do get this board you can get an fx 57 if you can find one. And as far as i can see the fx57 whips my 6000+ at a lot of games. ALSO you can SLI OR crossfire this thing which is pretty flipping cool too.
August 10, 2007 7:58:47 PM

now my body is sore!

me kicken myself in tha arse (for not spottin that bios prob in tha first place) and you hittin me in tha head. now that things are well do believe me i'm on pins and needles to see what's coming around tha corner in '08 and thiss fall. so when it's tax time, i'm gonna set aside 1500 for a new rig. would like to spend more, but i need to get a SUV for tha family. my sentra just can't cut it no more!
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