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Newegg 50/50 chance to get a Q6600 with G0 stepping

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August 1, 2007 8:13:48 AM

So I got my Q6600 today and found out its a B3. No problem, right? Wrong. I thought a simple RMA to Newegg to exchange my B3 for a G0 would be easy. Turns out, they can NOT guarntee that I get a Q6600 with G0 stepping. At least this is what Newegg's customer service told me.

So unless u like to gamble, dont count on Newegg for your Q6600 with G0 stepping.
August 1, 2007 10:00:30 AM

Appreciate the information. I just ordered $1,700.00 in new computer parts from them. I didn't order the Q6600 for that very reason. I read a review that said they received the G0 and I got hopeful, only to see a review the next day that the B3s are still being shipped. You would think they would clear old stock first. Maybe they are playing the mix them up game to sell the old CPUs.
August 1, 2007 10:11:19 AM

Newegg is seeming more and more sneaky and underhanded to me lately. They refuse to tell you what you're buying. If the specification you're looking for isn't on the product page, forget it.
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August 1, 2007 11:24:17 AM

ok, hot wire your mobo so you have a real reason to RMA your self destroyed q6600s until you get a G0, sure, it is fraud, but still
August 1, 2007 3:05:54 PM

BtK said:
So I got my Q6600 today and found out its a B3. No problem, right? Wrong. I thought a simple RMA to Newegg to exchange my B3 for a G0 would be easy. Turns out, they can NOT guarntee that I get a Q6600 with G0 stepping. At least this is what Newegg's customer service told me.

So unless u like to gamble, dont count on Newegg for your Q6600 with G0 stepping.


......I really don't know why you're fussing about that..

Newegg is selling Q6600, not a specific stepping. If they let you in, they must have let everyone in too. Before you know it, every single Q6600 buyer will be asking for G0 stepping, and Newegg will have large quantities of B3 Q6600 that no one wants to buy.
August 1, 2007 3:19:03 PM

Erm.. because the GO stepping is a newer model?? Thats something to fuss about. Especially when they dont tell you want you're going to get..

They could sell the B3 one for like $20 less then the GO stepping one.
August 1, 2007 3:49:25 PM

EV700 said:
Newegg is seeming more and more sneaky and underhanded to me lately. They refuse to tell you what you're buying. If the specification you're looking for isn't on the product page, forget it.


Here's the thing: Newegg isn't going to cater to you and help you void your warranty by overclocking. Steppings on processors have never been listed on Newegg, and they're not going to start now that there is a "special" one. In fact, almost no etailers list the steppings for CPU's.
August 1, 2007 3:57:00 PM

EV700 said:
Newegg is seeming more and more sneaky and underhanded to me lately. They refuse to tell you what you're buying. If the specification you're looking for isn't on the product page, forget it.


Thats not sneaky or underhanded. They're showing you all the specs that they will guarantee. Why is it their fault that you expect something they aren't saying you can expect?
August 1, 2007 5:04:27 PM

EV700 said:
Newegg is seeming more and more sneaky and underhanded to me lately. They refuse to tell you what you're buying. If the specification you're looking for isn't on the product page, forget it.



The reason why newegg won't tell you is because they can't. They keep all of there old and new q6600 in the same spot in there factory since the only change to it was the stepping. I don't think any ill intent was meant from newegg.
August 1, 2007 6:27:54 PM

MooseMuffin said:
Thats not sneaky or underhanded. They're showing you all the specs that they will guarantee. Why is it their fault that you expect something they aren't saying you can expect?


You just proved my point yourself.
August 1, 2007 6:30:20 PM

SEALBoy said:
Here's the thing: Newegg isn't going to cater to you and help you void your warranty by overclocking. Steppings on processors have never been listed on Newegg, and they're not going to start now that there is a "special" one. In fact, almost no etailers list the steppings for CPU's.


That wouldn't be the situation at all if I ever decided to even buy a Q6600; some people hardcore game and like to use air cooling. Also, just for your information, businesses tell customers what it is they're buying or they don't make the sale. Providing incorrect photos, inaccurate and incomplete information like newegg does will always keep it sub-#2 on my list; that's just like a retail store replacing the contents of a 8800 GTX package with a 8800 GS product. It'd be considered illegal for sure, if they weren't an online retailer.
August 1, 2007 7:08:57 PM

EV700 said:
You just proved my point yourself.


?!

If I offer you an apple and you accept, you can't get pissed at me for giving you a red one when you were crossing your fingers for a green one. Sure you can wish I gave you the option, but I certainly didn't do anything underhanded or sneaky.

They aren't showing one thing and selling another, they're giving you exactly what you ordered. The problem is people aren't getting what they wish they ordered.
August 1, 2007 7:15:45 PM

MooseMuffin said:
?!

If I offer you an apple and you accept, you can't get pissed at me for giving you a red one when you were crossing your fingers for a green one. Sure you can wish I gave you the option, but I certainly didn't do anything underhanded or sneaky.

They aren't showing one thing and selling another, they're giving you exactly what you ordered. The problem is people aren't getting what they wish they ordered.


Thank you for proving my point again.

You go open an apple shop and tell the customer that they can't choose the type of apple they buy.
August 1, 2007 7:22:21 PM

I doubt the odds are even 50/50 at this point. Its common practice to sell the oldest stock first. I can't believe they would mix the stock or sell the latest shipment first. Every warehouse I have ever seen tries to minimize shelf life of the stock they have.

No way to tell how many of the B3's they have left. From what I have seen in other warehouses I would guess mid to late August the older stock would be cleared out and the new stuff starts shipping. But thats just a slightly educated guess as I have not and do not work at Newegg, but as I have worked in a few warehouses and have seen how they rotated and refreshed the stock. Every one I was at kept approx 2 to 4 weeks of supply in case the supply lines hit a snag and new shipments were delayed. Quantites of course were different from product to product depending on popularity and estimates of possible demand.

Question (as I can't remember): did Intel announce the price cuts or the shipment if G0 stepping first? If it was the price cuts its possible that Newegg has alot of stock of B3's in anticipation of the demand.

Has anyone recieved the new G0 cpus from Newegg?
August 1, 2007 7:37:11 PM

Some customer reviews on the product page say they get the G0, some others say they get the B3.
August 1, 2007 7:42:25 PM

Wow, I find that very odd. That pretty much goes against everything I have ever seen in a warehouse. In my experience if you mixed stock, especially when there are significant differences between the old and new, then that person was in alot of trouble. I've seen people get canned for doing that type of thing. Guess Newegg doesn't hold the same standards. That sucks
August 1, 2007 7:45:17 PM

Martell77 said:
Wow, I find that very odd. That pretty much goes against everything I have ever seen in a warehouse. In my experience if you mixed stock, especially when there are significant differences between the old and new, then that person was in alot of trouble. I've seen people get canned for doing that type of thing. Guess Newegg doesn't hold the same standards. That sucks


Yeah, standards.. that sums it up pretty well! :lol: 
August 1, 2007 8:00:30 PM

EV700 said:
Thank you for proving my point again.

You go open an apple shop and tell the customer that they can't choose the type of apple they buy.


Steppings are simply not promised by Newegg or hardly any other e-tailer. I doubt the 'pick date' on an apple is either. You bought knowing full well you were taking a gamble. If you didn't you were simply mistaken. If you doubt this show us in print where you saw it was guranteed to be a specific stepping.

If your point is that they SHOULD be selectable by stepping you have a reasonable point. I could see this going either way.

I have purchased many a CPU from Newegg, as I'm sure have many here, you take what you get and if it means a few Mhgz. less on your OC then so be it.
August 1, 2007 8:01:13 PM

Hatman said:
Erm.. because the GO stepping is a newer model?? Thats something to fuss about. Especially when they dont tell you want you're going to get..

They could sell the B3 one for like $20 less then the GO stepping one.

Actually, G0 is not a newer model, but simply a newer revision. As said before, if you're not overclocking, having a 10W less processor won't make your computer case cooler.

I don't see people fussing about B2 and L2 stepping, but why B3 and G0? People are really illogical at times.
August 1, 2007 8:03:34 PM

Martell77 said:
Wow, I find that very odd. That pretty much goes against everything I have ever seen in a warehouse. In my experience if you mixed stock, especially when there are significant differences between the old and new, then that person was in alot of trouble. I've seen people get canned for doing that type of thing. Guess Newegg doesn't hold the same standards. That sucks


That's because they purposefully distribute them evenly, so they won't have to wait for B3 stock to deplete before people start buying Q6600 again. Yes, from the consumer's standpoint, its not very convenient. But Newegg is here to make money, not satisfy your every single need.
August 1, 2007 8:06:36 PM

yomamafor1 said:
That's because they purposefully distribute them evenly, so they won't have to wait for B3 stock to deplete before people start buying Q6600 again. Yes, from the consumer's standpoint, its not very convenient. But Newegg is here to make money, not satisfy your every single need.

And to think that Newegg established it's reputation through lower than market prices and customer satisfaction :pfff: 
August 1, 2007 8:07:28 PM

EV700 said:
Thank you for proving my point again.

You go open an apple shop and tell the customer that they can't choose the type of apple they buy.


That's the worst analogy I've ever seen.

Newegg did separate Q6700 from Q6600, thus you can buy a Core 2 Quad with different grading, which is similar to apple grading. But the store is not going to tell you which week the apple came from. They will very likely to mix apples from week1 and week2 together, as long as they are still fresh.

The better analogy is cars. You can buy Chevrolet Malibu and Aveo, but you can't select cars from a certain production cycle. Do you see any car dealer disclosing such information?
August 1, 2007 8:11:27 PM

YO_KID37 said:
And to think that Newegg established it's reputation through lower than market prices and customer satisfaction :pfff: 

One of the most important concept of business is compromising. You can't satisfy your customer's need and disregard your own, or vice versa. That's why you meet most of those needs, while disregarding some from both parties.

Newegg sells Q6600 at a very affordable price, which satisfy their customer's needs. They also make money by selling at that price point, which satisfy their own needs. If Newegg distinguishes B3 from G0, everyone is going to buy G0. While Newegg may make more money by marking up the price, they simply cannot just disregard the B3 volume.
August 1, 2007 8:25:03 PM

yomamafor1 said:
One of the most important concept of business is compromising. You can't satisfy your customer's need and disregard your own, or vice versa. That's why you meet most of those needs, while disregarding some from both parties.

Newegg sells Q6600 at a very affordable price, which satisfy their customer's needs. They also make money by selling at that price point, which satisfy their own needs. If Newegg distinguishes B3 from G0, everyone is going to buy G0. While Newegg may make more money by marking up the price, they simply cannot just disregard the B3 volume.

Than why even Mix them up? the B3 must have been bought for a higher price than the G0 Batch. Clear out the B3 first and than load the G0 stepping rounds. It won't be deceptive to the customer than, they'll know that the ones sold this month are B3 and G0 will come to sell following the sale of their last bit of B3's in a little while. But thinking from sales stand point, Mixing the crap in with the chocolate, the result comes to the buyer, weather they get the crap part or the chocolate. Made it a luck of draw, so will tempt people to buy and take a risk to get B3 or G0. hmmm... So this 50/50 thing makes a little more sense to me now.
August 1, 2007 8:49:25 PM

notherdude said:
Steppings are simply not promised by Newegg or hardly any other e-tailer. I doubt the 'pick date' on an apple is either. You bought knowing full well you were taking a gamble. If you didn't you were simply mistaken. If you doubt this show us in print where you saw it was guranteed to be a specific stepping.

If your point is that they SHOULD be selectable by stepping you have a reasonable point. I could see this going either way.

I have purchased many a CPU from Newegg, as I'm sure have many here, you take what you get and if it means a few Mhgz. less on your OC then so be it.


Every word you say is NULL and VOID.. I stopped reading after I saw that you actually think I bought something from newegg. You don't even have a clue.
August 1, 2007 8:51:34 PM

yomamafor1 said:
Actually, G0 is not a newer model, but simply a newer revision. As said before, if you're not overclocking, having a 10W less processor won't make your computer case cooler.

I don't see people fussing about B2 and L2 stepping, but why B3 and G0? People are really illogical at times.


Don't forget +10 C degrees more tolerance.
August 1, 2007 8:52:51 PM

yomamafor1 said:
That's the worst analogy I've ever seen.

Newegg did separate Q6700 from Q6600, thus you can buy a Core 2 Quad with different grading, which is similar to apple grading. But the store is not going to tell you which week the apple came from. They will very likely to mix apples from week1 and week2 together, as long as they are still fresh.

The better analogy is cars. You can buy Chevrolet Malibu and Aveo, but you can't select cars from a certain production cycle. Do you see any car dealer disclosing such information?


Yeah, it's in the window.
August 1, 2007 9:03:45 PM

YO_KID37 said:
Than why even Mix them up? the B3 must have been bought for a higher price than the G0 Batch. Clear out the B3 first and than load the G0 stepping rounds. It won't be deceptive to the customer than, they'll know that the ones sold this month are B3 and G0 will come to sell following the sale of their last bit of B3's in a little while. But thinking from sales stand point, Mixing the crap in with the chocolate, the result comes to the buyer, weather they get the crap part or the chocolate. Made it a luck of draw, so will tempt people to buy and take a risk to get B3 or G0. hmmm... So this 50/50 thing makes a little more sense to me now.


But everyone will be waiting on the G0 stepping, so the B3 sale will be slow. Newegg will make less profit from doing this.
August 1, 2007 9:07:10 PM

EV700 said:
Don't forget +10 C degrees more tolerance.

and that's important to non-OCer because?

L2 also offer substantial improvement in thermal and heat dissipation. Why people aren't fussed about that?
August 1, 2007 9:08:13 PM

EV700 said:
Yeah, it's in the window.

...and i'm sure an average consumer will ask for a car that's build in a certain cycle. Do you see dealership salesperson advertise about that?
August 1, 2007 9:37:12 PM

imo I think the reason some people are getting the G0 or the B3 depends on where the item ships from CA, TN, or NJ.
August 1, 2007 10:17:36 PM


And the fact that I confused your lame defense of the op with the lame carping of the op makes my every word null and void how exactly, ev700? Actually, the op was rather mild about it compared to you.
August 1, 2007 10:45:26 PM

dozer63 said:
imo I think the reason some people are getting the G0 or the B3 depends on where the item ships from CA, TN, or NJ.


That’s why I take these reports of people receiving the G-0 with a grain of salt. In all the forums I’ve visited, noone is saying which warehouse their processor was shipped from-- only the company that shipped it. Providing the order date and company name mean little to nothing if the processor ships from a different location depending on the destination of order and/or other factors such as quantity in stock at each warehouse at any given time.
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August 2, 2007 1:45:49 AM

For those who are unhappy with the way that Newegg conducts itself the answer is simple, do not shop there!, boycott them, take your money elsewhere and stop posting links to their site whenever someone asks questions about a product.
August 2, 2007 5:07:59 AM

Wonder when they will confirm g0 shipping time...
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