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August 8, 2007 12:18:19 PM

Help to spend $3,000 - game/audio PC

My budget around $3,000 but actually it could be less or more - depends on configuration.
Mainly I want sysytem for future games (Crysis etc.) and audio recording/listening (some guitar and CDs) and also DVD dubbing - so I do need very good sounding audiocard. Also don’t need to overclock or do watercooling or SLI . Good aircooling will be sufficient. Only best parts and best performance and reliability, so system will be good and stable at least for 2-3 years.

So far I came with this list:

1.Case: Silverstone TJ10-BW black aluminium ATX mid tower

or : Silverstone TJ09-BW Black Aluminum ATX Mid tower

btw – what the difference between them?

2. Power supply: PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW-SR, also

Thermaltake Toughpower 850W W0131RU – NVIDIA QUAD-SLI
Or:
Thermaltake W0106RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V 700W Power Supply
Or:
SILVERSTONE OP650 ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply

Or: may be I need less powerful, like 550wt or less? or another brand?

3. Motherboard: ASUS P5K3 DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

4. Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775

5. Memory:

CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail $360

CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail $360

CORSAIR 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory – Retail $470

Perhaps 2-nd choice will be the best in price/frequency ratio?

I'm pretty confused here, because of all these specs and options etc. But I prefer a manufacturer with reputation.


6. Sound card: Creative Creative X-Fi Elite ProSound card
other choices are:
E-MU 1616M-PCI or 1212M-PCI or
M_Audio Revolution 7.1 or
Edirol FA-66
Any other suggestions for quality soundcard?


7. Video card

BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB $580

BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOCE GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 OC HDCP Video Card - Retail $530

EVGA 768-P2-N837-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 KO HDCP Video Card – Retail $650

EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SUPERCLOCKED HDCP Video Card $610

EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card – Retail $535

Which one is better or faster or more reliable?

8. Hard Drive 1 - Western Digital Raptor 150Gb or 75Gb will be more stable?
Hard Drive 2 - Seagate Barracuda(perpendicular) 750Gb or 500Gb
or Hard Drive 2 - HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000 HDS721010KLA330 (0A34915) 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

(no need for RAID) Any other suggestions?

9. CD/DVD drives:

2 x Lite-On 20X DVD Burner w/ Lightscribe – or should go with Sony or NEC or ASUS?
I want to listen, watch and burn DVD and CDs and have second drive for copying DVD..
Any recommendations?

10. Monitor:

SAMSUNG 244t-BK Black 24" 6ms
or
NEC Display Solutions LCD2470WNX-BK Black 24" 6ms

also their 22" monitor cost almost two times less. May be extra 2" not important, so I can save?
I didn't have experience with big widescreen monitors, so please advice on this.

11. Network card: Killer NIC discrete card

12. Processor cooling:
Scythe Infinite, Tunis Tower, Thermalight Ultra?
Thermaltake CL-P0114 120mm CPU Cooler
Thermalright HR-01-K8 CPU Heatsink
ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler
Scythe SCASM-1000 120mm Sleeve Andy Samurai Master CPU Cooler
VIGOR GAMING CLT-M2I 92mm Thermal Electric CPU Cooler

too many choices – and I don’t know which one fit to ASUS P5K3 DELUXE
And also do i need some glue for this installation?

13. Kb/mouse: Logitech G15/G5
also what about these keyboards:
ENERMAX Aurora Black 104 Normal Keys USB Mini Keyboard
Saitek PZ30AU Black 104 Normal Keys

Hope I didn’t miss anything.
Thank you in advance and sorry my mistakes (English is my second language).

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August 8, 2007 12:56:42 PM

I think I spent under $350 for 4 Gigs of Ram and its good OCZ - maybe rethink that.

EVGA 768-P2-N835-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SUPERCLOCKED HDCP Video Card $610 - Excellent choice - I bought two of them and run SLI

24' Dell Monitor 6ms - $649.00 at Costco.com

For the Motherboard you should go SLI 680i - as that would be the future for expanding. Asus P5N32-E 680i


http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=111714... amp;Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|84|1680&N=4018491&Mo=8&No=2&Nr=P_Cata logName:BC&cat=62021&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&a mp;topnav=
August 8, 2007 1:37:20 PM

There is little point in spending that much on DDR3 1333 ram. It has only marginal performance gains, and that money can be better spent elsewhere.

EVGA makes good graphics cards, go with whatever, it doesn't matter too much so long as its in the same model (8800gtx).

As for hard drives, consider doing two 7200rpm harddrives in RAID 0, they beat a single raptor in most cases and have an excellent price/gig ratio. However if you want the raptor do it and the seagate 750gig or 500gig, w/e your price allows.

Go with the creative sound card.

If you're planning on upgrading to two 8800gtx's go with the 850watt. Thermaltake's toughpower PSU's are good quality.

The samsung monitor is fantastic, go with it. Samsung makes very good monitors, they're crystal clear, much better than the dell ones. The dell one has only a 1000: contrast ratio, and Samsung has 3000:1.

As for the case, I'd personally go with the thermaltake armor if you want a little more in looks. It also sports lots of very quite fans.

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August 8, 2007 1:43:44 PM

That is one massive build lol, looks really good though. As others have said, for the moment there is no sense spending money on DDR3 when it doesn't really have any benefit yet. save that money for something else. Thermaltake has a great PSU, but try Antec Quattro, they are awesome. So get a Silverstone 850W Decathlon, those are really good as well.

For Raptor, if you really want one, I suggest getting one of the smaller ones and putting your OS on there so your computer loads faster, keep all your other files on the basic Hard drives, you wont really see any performance loss.

Yeah Samsung have great monitors, or Ben Q they have some great ones too and so do LG.

If you have any questions at all, though, contact me anytime. either MSGer or email.

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August 8, 2007 2:20:12 PM

1. Silverstone Tj 09. (Doors suck)
2. Pc Power & Cooling 750. Awesome power supply and I doubt you'll need more.
3. Gigabyte p35 dq6.
4.Intel quad core 6600. The 6700 is way too expensive.
5. I agree on not getting ddr3 might probably be cheaper to replace mobo and ram later on.
6. I'd wait for the X-Fi Prelude or any X-Fi (except the xtremeaudio). Really good for gaming and decent for video and music
7. EVGA 8800 GTX excellent service and warranty, and you can always overclock it yourself.
8. Western Digital 750 GB AAKS if storage and speed is what you are looking for.
9. I have two Pioneer DVD-RW and they are very reliable and silent.
10. Have you looked at the new Dell 24"? Looks quite impressive compared to the older version and I liked the older version. http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=162570&highl...
11. Any network card will do, even integrated.
12. Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme or Tuniq Tower. I know the Tuniq Tower fits the p 35 dq6 I;w imagine the thermalright does aswell. If you get the Tuniq Tower lap it!
13. Keyboard: the new logitech wave or microsoft natural 4000 . Mouse: logitech G5
August 8, 2007 2:33:55 PM

I'm with Mati87 on most of his points. The DQ6 is probably overkill, I decided to go for the P35C instead. 750GB disks are overpriced, you can get two 500 GB for less money.

The one thing I don't get here is, you want this computer for professional level music, i.e. as quiet as possible, but you're putting in 62 dB cards like the 8800 GTX and Raptors and you're picking a case without insulating foam (the TJ09), and you haven't even mentioned replacing the stock fans with something quieter. You may want to consider getting two computers, one with the 8800 GTX and the other with a P182/X-Fi Elite/8500GT (that's a silent card).
August 8, 2007 3:13:44 PM

The killer NIC is a waste and high end nforce boards do the same thing and they can hit the full gig-e bandwidth.
The killer nic is slowed down by the pci bus and have the sound on that bus as well will also get in the way.
August 8, 2007 4:25:41 PM

The Dell 24'' LCD is cheapest on their site.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c... ;s=bsd&cs=04&sku=320-5647

I got the 24'' LCD a few months ago and I love it, I thought I would never use the card reader but I do all the time now.

I personally would recommend 2x74gb Raptors in Raid 0 for the OS and programs, that is what I have and it is fast. If you still do not want raid I would go for the 15gb raptor, I had a 36gb raptor for my os for years, it was a pain because it was easy to fill up. Maybe in a year you'll wish you has the extra space so I'd go for the 150gb, just as stable as the 74 imo.
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