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August 9, 2007 10:15:27 PM

Hey all, this is my first post on this forum, though I've browsed it for a long time and respect the knowledge of the posters here. Love the new forum design too! Anyways, onto the build.

This is my first ever 100% custom build. With every computer in the past I've always upgraded memory, graphic cards, and added additional HD's and even the occasional sound card, but I need some help here. I have a fairly good idea on what I would like to purchase, but do have questions regarding some of the more detailed components.

Not much worth mentioning will be carried over from my previous PC besides the Keyboard/Mouse/Speakers (and possibly sound card). Yes, that means a new Monitor would be nice(previously had a 17" Samsung LCD which I loved). The monitor is not required however, and if the price of the build becomes too dramatic, it is the first piece that I can drop for now, and add in a few months. I could live with the 17" for awhile longer.

Here's the list so far. It's a little too high, but I am reasonable. I wouldn't want to push 1600 too much however. I've done a good amount of research, but I am open to changing anything. I'd love to work around a Q6600 and higher end GPU if possible (8800GTS 640 or so). Also, I have a little time to change around pieces and try different combinations, but I would like to get this finalized in a week or two.

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CASE: Antec P182 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811129025 $134.99 after $25.00 Mail-In Rebate
I've done a fairly decent amount of research and have pretty much settled on this case. The older P180 was my choice, but the newer upgraded version does offer fan speed controls and other additions. My current pc is a Gen1/2 XPS and it was LOUD and HOT. This is one of the reasons why a silent case with good airflow brought me to this choice. I'm happy with this pick, but am open to suggestions.

MOBO: I need Help here! I've read about Gigabyte boards and MSI, along with Asus and other brands, but I honestly can't decide. I'm not planning on going SLI in the future, so two PCI-E slots aren't required. Overclocking is a thought, so I'd like to keep the option available. I've looked at other C2Q builds and have seen a variety of boards chosen, so I'm not sure here. Need huge amount of help here!

GPU: EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814130071 $339.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate
I'e heard great things about the 8800 GTS, and the 640MB version is chosen here because the new 22" monitor will be purchased with this build. Gaming is something I like to spend time on, and using this computer (with minimal upgrades in the futures), it'll need to last awhile. The GTX sounds lovely, but I don't think I can spare the funds. We will see. I have no bias against ATI (my last 3 cards have been ATI) or going with NVIDIA, it's just the best bang for me atm (one could argue with the 320MB).

PROCESSOR: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819115017
$299.99
The price is just too amazing to pass up for the performance gained here. I need a CPU that will last me awhile, and this is more future safe that other current CPU's. I do plan to overclock once everything is decided upon at least a fair amount. I do understand that newegg isn't guaranteeing a G0 stepping, and may not order from them. I'm registered on ClubIT and am considering splitting my order between these two sites.

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail - http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817139002 $139.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate
Corsair has a great rep and is a high quality manufacturer. The 620 may not be required for this build, and have thought about lowering down to a 520, but if I can stay in the mid-range and keep the temps lower it would be nice. I would also like the ability to add more drives, or even a soundcard in the future. I'd like to stay around the 500ish range here, and I may be reaching a bit with this pick.

MEMORY: Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Cas Latency 4 http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820146565
$79.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate
I've thought about going with 4GB, but have decided against it for now. This can be upgraded later on if it's needed. As for the brand, I'd like to stay with a reputable one, but also with higher quality memory as I plan to do a fair amount of OCing. I know it's only 800, so upping up to 1066 is an option (and I'm trying to figure out the balance of the funding). Considerations very welcome!

HD: SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822152052
$119.99
Alright, I know some may say why not go RAID 0 and grab another drive? I thought about it, and maybe I will. I'm really trying to balance everything out, and I could live without RAID. So, grabbing enough space (500Gb) should be alright. I also have an external HD that I'll be bringing over for use, but it's mainly for backups and storage.

MONITOR: SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1) - Retail http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16824001096 $299.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate
Alright, I had originally planned this to be a later purchase (perhaps a little Christmas Gift for myself), but after talking about it with a few others, they've totally peer pressured me to buy this now. My current LCD is a samsung and I love it. It's just a little too small. This is the main reason why I am willing to go slightly higher if needed on the overall price of the build.

DRIVES: Sony NEC Optiarc Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s - OEM http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827101131 $17.99

And

LG Black 18X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 10X DVD+R DL 18X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache E-IDE/ATAPIDVD Burner - OEM http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827136119 $27.99

Alright, these are just the basics pretty much. I like to have two drives for copying and to be honest I've just gotten used to it! Not really much to say here other than of course if there are better deals out there or I'm a retard (very likely) and I overlooked something, I'd switch for sure.

COOLING: ZALMAN 9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - Retail http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835118019 $59.99
Ok, cooling. This is another option that I'm not certain of. There are so many choices that have to be considered here. I'd like to OC some originally, and perhaps expand on that to lengthen the life of the build. Another concern that comes to mind is the space required. I'm not sure if the P182 can fit these coolers in properly, so I'd love to hear about other users and their decisions with the P182 or if I should stop worrying about the space in general.

OS: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16832116213 $189.99

Yes, Vista. I've bounced around here often, but have decided to go with Vista 32bit. Vista, because I'd rather do the upgrade now than worry about it later. 32 bit because I don't plan on 4g right off the bat, and driver issues with 64bit. The Ultimate edition is really just more of a "want" and not a "need". So this could go down to the premium version if I am tight on cash. I don't really want to think about Vista much, but I've seen this same OS type in-use and it looks slick. I'm trying to psyche myself up for it and not think about the negatives of Vista.

Other things on the list include some Arctic Silver Compound and a Floppy/card reader that I'd like to incorporate into the system.

After rebates, without a MOBO chosen, I'm at: 1710.89

This, is a little high, especially considering I do NOT have a mobo yet. I would like to shave off some of the cost, but without changing too much. I figure about 125-150ish for a mobo and I'm running at 1850 or so before shipping (i'm not going to include shipping into the estimate). Now, I do realize that without this monitor for 300, it would fit me right where I want to be at 1550 or so. This is in consideration and I may hold back on it like I originally wanted to. I am sure I've left out a few things, and will fill in details as I remember them. What do you all think? Thanks for sticking with me in this hell of a long post, sorry!






August 9, 2007 10:24:07 PM

Hey you really did your research, that's a great looking guild. I'd suggest getting home premium instead of the ultimate since you really get the same features without the business security application which you'll never use. Save that money for something else :) .

For motherboard get the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R and you'll be in great shape. A major way to cut some money it from the case, if you want to get something less expensive. You could also have just one DVD burner instead of two. The Corsair 520W would you just fine so that should save you some money too.

How about this monitor? Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... r%2bAL2216Wbd

If you have any questions feel free to msg me. Maximus9102 for AIM and Yahoo. :) 
August 9, 2007 10:42:13 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/244307-31-1500-gaming...

I used Dior's build suggestion and ordered on Weds. I will let you know how it turns out. (she should be a mod here IMO) Also if you do a search she has addressed several builds with quad cores)
I went with a non-OC build.
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August 9, 2007 11:55:31 PM

Thanks for the responses! I will definitely drop down to Home Premium for the OS, and 520 should be enough as far as power is concerned. I'll look into the Acer monitor and Mobo. Thanks for the advice. Also, thanks for mentioning that build Mas0n. I have looked over many C2Q builds and have tried to incorporate them into this one.

Dropping down to 520 will save around $25 and Home Premium will drop off about $70. That's about $100 right there! I'll do more research on your suggestions, thanks :) 
August 10, 2007 12:12:30 AM

no problem :) . If you aren't going to overclock, you don't really need that cpu cooler, the new intels run pretty cool, so the stock will be just fine :) .
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