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It dosent come with a monitor but thats not really a problem for me. I can get it for about $900 total with taxes and everything from a local computer shop. I've been waiting for the prices to drop a bit on the Q6600 to build my own but then i came across this. I most likely wouldn't have overclocked anyway and i never play games. It has more ram than my homebuild computer would have and the tv tuner/remote is nice. It also has double the hard drive space my homebuild would have. It seems like a decent deal to me. What do you think?

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Doesn't look bad for a non-gaming computer, and at $900 locally that's pretty good (I think).

The only reasons I wouldn't do it are:

1. I hate vista
2. I really can't stand all the useless programs that computers from hp/dell etc are loaded with... bogs everything down
3. I like the idea of homebuilt vs pre-built

Reply to pous

That looks like an okay computer, and if you don't play games, I'd say go for it. Extraneous programs are mostly easy to get rid of. I have no idea why PC tv tuners suck compared to normal televisions. My ATI TV Elite Wonder is a high end tuner, but the image quality, while still very watchable and enjoyable, doesn't match any normal resolution tv. It should last you a few years, but you might actually be paying too much if you're only going to browse the net, type, etc. on it.

Reply to NumenorLord

I do video editing/encoding so quad core is a nice bonus. I kind of am still leaning towards building my own for the flexibility/upgradebility but when i saw the Q6600 and 3GB of RAM for that price it made me think twice. How much do you think it would cost to build something similar to that?

Reply to porsche6714

if you do video editing I would recommend getting a graphics card then...nothing too fancy..But the mid range ATI 2000 series card should be a good bet...I'm a video editor myself..I would never leave the video to a onboard if I'm editing...to me that is rule numero uno..especially if you're going to be playing high def video...might want to nab a ATI 2400 or 2600 since you don't game.

Reply to Kamrooz

porsche6714 wrote :

I do video editing/encoding so quad core is a nice bonus. I kind of am still leaning towards building my own for the flexibility/upgradebility but when i saw the Q6600 and 3GB of RAM for that price it made me think twice. How much do you think it would cost to build something similar to that?


too bad it is 5300 / 667 ram you want 6400 / 800 and NVIDIA GeForce 7350 LE graphics card with TurboCache with older Intel P965 chipset
p35 is better.
and if you want a Hp get form hp web site where you can pick the parts that you want.

Reply to Joe_The_Dragon

For video editing i dont think this is the machine for you.

1. the gpu wont be enough
2. the rams not fast enough
3. hp have all the junk on it (which even if you do remove has remnants left behind) will bog the system down.
4. vista sucks atm for video editing
5. 640Gb hdd? im assuming, actually i dont know what to assume? last i knew they came in 500gb and 750gb flavours maybe a 750gb minus the 50gb loss in formatting. minus the recovery partition 20gb? wierd.

Good price though :S

Reply to chookman

If you get it, and then install XP home or XP pro over vista, it sounds great. I put vista on a new computer, and it was so bad i was forced to go back to xp pro.
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Reply to ComputerCustomizer

UHhhhh, quad-core is overkill and mainly suited for multi-tasking , servers and me-too's, dual-core cpu's will serve you well and graphics intensive programs like games and video editing require plenty of RAM (2Gig) and a quality video card with a abundance of video RAM (640MB)...don't fall into the quad-core trap (crap) like so many others have, jus my $.02

Reply to mad-dog

I bought a Quad core to use with Server2003 64Bit for storage and SQL so it suits me.

I would have thought it would also speed up the video encoding as long as the program supports it

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Reply to chookman

HP support is poor at best, it's mostly done out of India.
It's rare that you get to talk to a native English speaking person.
Make your own computer if you can, it might cost you a bit more, but it will be worth it.
Almost no one needs a Quad core computer, but it's fun to say you have one.
Windows Vista kills computer performance. Get XP, all Vista is, is pretty.
If you want Quad and want to buy a pre-made computer I saw one that Dell was selling that was cheaper.

Vista might be a bit better after SP1.

My opinion, only gospel to me.

Reply to bobbknight

Make a list of the components included in that system then price them on Newegg. You can build a lot of computer for those dollars. Do you really want to buy Vista and that software?

Reply to nhobo

I was looking at that same system for video editing as well. Every benchmark I have seen shows signficant difference with quad processor for video editing. For about 1150 you can configure a system that looks the same (same cpu, same disk size and memory), but with faster components. With even stock cooling, you can overclock 25% easily and have a system that is more flixible for upgrades later.

Reply to TexasVol

For the price a non gamer will get a great system.

As for comments.

YES hp does bundle too much software(but its all you will ever need if you get any hp products, printers, scanners, cameras and more), but it's all removable.

The ram is NOT too slow as it only needs to run @ 533 to run with the fsb on this cpu.

There are clearly 2(2x 320? maybe raid, HP them self told me they where going to start with raid on some systems) hard drives(on one the floor the other behind the hp personal media bay) from the look of things.

The turbo cache video card, well if your not playing games it may never be a problem. you cant get much more for the price.

Vista is not a problem for most non gamers. and it's un avoidable now anyway.

Not saying its the best thing on the market, but it sure is very competitive in price and features.

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Reply to nukemaster

mad-dog wrote :

UHhhhh, quad-core is overkill and mainly suited for multi-tasking , servers and me-too's, dual-core cpu's will serve you well and graphics intensive programs like games and video editing require plenty of RAM (2Gig) and a quality video card with a abundance of video RAM (640MB)...don't fall into the quad-core trap (crap) like so many others have, jus my $.02





Uhhhh, sounds to me like you've never really done alot of video editing. The only time that the vid card works during video editing is during playback. An 8800 is a super overkill for that task, and even though I spit at a 8600GTS, it's still more than adequate for that plain task. Also video editing and 3D Rendering are some of the fields that really benefit from the additional cores. Since the OP said that he/she wasn't really a gamer and does video editing, quad-core does seem to fit the budget and the job. Also Tom's did an article on uber OC'ed Quad-Core and Dual-Core and the Quads were running circles on the Dual's when it came to video encoding (maybe there was a bug though with the XVid encoding).

Reply to amnotanoobie

just a few things...

home basic- fairly basic just a more pretty xp.

celeron d 356 @3.33ghz - good powerful cpu, not bad for the price tag maybe 400+ could push dual-core cpus.

memory - 512mb ram isn't enough for vista let alone xp, need a minimuim of a gig no matter what the version is and what microsoft say

hdd - decent amount of storage there

gfx - pretty weak chipset, but would handle basic tasks.

for that price i wouldn't complain and in your situation it should be fine as long as game dont come into it, should be able to perform basic office tasking etc only thing i can think that will struggle it your ram!


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