GTS 320Mb Vs GTS 640Mb Vs 2900XT
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I am finally going to build a new pc.My other specs will probably be-Q6600/E6850,2GB of RAM,not sure about mobo+case yet,and a 800Watt PSU.I have a 19" TFT at the moment,and I think that I will keep it for a long time,so I will be playing at 1280x1024.I really cant decide what card should I go for.All I do is gaming,no rendering/encoding.Which card would you suggest,the 8800 GTS 320/640 or the 2900XT?I found a BFG 8800 320Mb which is factory O/Ced and its faster than the 640Mb version,and ofcourse,cheaper,what do you think?I wouldnt like to go for a GTX as ive heard that Nvidia will launch its new cards on November.Any suggestions?
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The 2900XT is faster and more "forward-thinking" (costs more to)
Make sure you PSU can run it.
Just get a 8800 GTS 320 since 10.1 doesn't exist and there are no native DX10 games yet. (Think of it as a fast DX9 card - I said think of it as DX9 - Not that it IS DX9)
Ya, In February 2008, you can see how Crysis plays DX10 on a 8800GTS.
Make sure you PSU can run it.
Just get a 8800 GTS 320 since 10.1 doesn't exist and there are no native DX10 games yet. (Think of it as a fast DX9 card - I said think of it as DX9 - Not that it IS DX9)
Ya, In February 2008, you can see how Crysis plays DX10 on a 8800GTS.
enewmen said:
The 2900XT is faster and more "forward-thinking" (costs more to)Make sure you PSU can run it.
Just get a 8800 GTS 320 since 10.1 doesn't exist and there are no native DX10 games yet. (Think of it as a fast DX9 card - I said think of it as DX9 - Not that it IS DX9)
Ya, In February 2008, you can see how Crysis plays DX10 on a 8800GTS.
February 2008?What do you mean?Crysis will be out by the end of November.And I still havent decided which card to get
This will be my new rig:
Q6600
I35 mobo,havent decided yet
2GB Crucial Ballistix
Corsair 620W PSU
Thermaltake Armor LCS(with watercooling kit)
As for the gfx card,I've changed my mind 20 times.I cant decide.The 320mb is cheap and good,but I dont know if it will run Crysis maxed out.The 2900XT is noisy and gets really hot,and needs more power.The 640mb is the most expensive and I dont know if I need the extra 320mb because I will be gaming @1280x1024.
Q6600
I35 mobo,havent decided yet
2GB Crucial Ballistix
Corsair 620W PSU
Thermaltake Armor LCS(with watercooling kit)
As for the gfx card,I've changed my mind 20 times.I cant decide.The 320mb is cheap and good,but I dont know if it will run Crysis maxed out.The 2900XT is noisy and gets really hot,and needs more power.The 640mb is the most expensive and I dont know if I need the extra 320mb because I will be gaming @1280x1024.
Yes, at that resolution I'd go for the 320MB version, it has plenty of RAM for 1280x1024. However, if you were to go for the 640MB vs the 2900XT, I'd pay the $20ish extra for the 2900XT, because with each new driver the card gets better, and it's DX10 performance is significantly better than the 8800GTS's.
SEALBoy said:
Yes, at that resolution I'd go for the 320MB version, it has plenty of RAM for 1280x1024. However, if you were to go for the 640MB vs the 2900XT, I'd pay the $20ish extra for the 2900XT, because with each new driver the card gets better, and it's DX10 performance is significantly better than the 8800GTS's.The 2900XT is cheaper than the 8800 640mb here,and I think im going for it.
OMG just go with the 8800gts 320mb!!!! Have you seen the VGA charts on this site? If you click on the overall fps, the non-overclocked 8800gts 320 beats the 2900xt. Then if you look up a little you will see that the overclocked version beats the 640mb version and thats fine for you as like everyone else said: you are playing at a low resoloution so it will run well.
alia83444 said:
OMG just go with the 8800gts 320mb!!!! Have you seen the VGA charts on this site? If you click on the overall fps, the non-overclocked 8800gts 320 beats the 2900xt. Then if you look up a little you will see that the overclocked version beats the 640mb version and thats fine for you as like everyone else said: you are playing at a low resoloution so it will run well.The 2900XT is beaten because it had bad drivers back then,they are much better now(as everyone says)
ahhhhhhhh i was so set on the 2900 but now im unsure again.damit.
its just that the benchmarks are such a mixed bag.in some games the 2900 really blows,others like in bioshock it beats everything.it also seams to be crippled by anti aliasing.also means im gona have to upgrade my power supply.im thinking maybe an 8800 320mb.damit.damit.its quite alot cheaper here
its just that the benchmarks are such a mixed bag.in some games the 2900 really blows,others like in bioshock it beats everything.it also seams to be crippled by anti aliasing.also means im gona have to upgrade my power supply.im thinking maybe an 8800 320mb.damit.damit.its quite alot cheaper here
For me it was easy i bought a cheap current card that handle current games good ie the BFG 320 OC.
If it doesn't handle DX10 games well, np, i haven't lost that much money.
To say this card or that card will do better is probably true but if they perform adequately is another story.
Saying the 2900 will perform better in DX10 games is just a guess.
I say buy what you need now for now as cheap as possible and upgrade later if it doesnt perfom well enough.
If it doesn't handle DX10 games well, np, i haven't lost that much money.
To say this card or that card will do better is probably true but if they perform adequately is another story.
Saying the 2900 will perform better in DX10 games is just a guess.
I say buy what you need now for now as cheap as possible and upgrade later if it doesnt perfom well enough.
based on the current crop of tests (like bioshock and call of juarez) I would NOT get the 320. Looking at the benchies now I think 512 is min. for graphics memory and anything less will be crippled on those cards for newer games.
Just my 2 bits, but I don't think the 320 is in the running with the other two... and the 2900 seems to be the better bet as of now over the 640.
Just my 2 bits, but I don't think the 320 is in the running with the other two... and the 2900 seems to be the better bet as of now over the 640.
but the 320 beats the 640 in bioshock!!!
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6177688/p-6.html
it performs identically to the 640 in almost everything.even in higher resolutions, only sometimes is it beaten and not by much.and then sometimes it beats the 640,like in bioshock!!which means it probably will in all games using ut3 engine!!and it costs about R900 more (about 110$)
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6177688/p-6.html
it performs identically to the 640 in almost everything.even in higher resolutions, only sometimes is it beaten and not by much.and then sometimes it beats the 640,like in bioshock!!which means it probably will in all games using ut3 engine!!and it costs about R900 more (about 110$)
gamestop is NOT a hardware testing site. They are a game testing site. They cater to the larger console crowd with little PC focus. They would not know how to truly test hardware if you drew them pictures in crayon...
...ok, maybe they are not THAT bad, but they are not really into doing "extensive" testing. Honestly, no explanation for the performance discrepancy there? Nothing saying why crossfire does not work beyond "users will likely have to...". And what is with 800x600? Does ANY gamer still run at that res?! lol.
Here is a better bioshock test that shows a slight edge to the bigger memory cards. (HUGE win in dx9 for the 2900 over even a gtx, but loss in dx10 to the 320 shows drivers still need work) Yes, it is not 1280 res, but as games get more hungry that 1280 becomes harder to do.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/
here is call of juarez:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM4NCwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
...Once again the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT is performing strongly. It seems to be right on the heels of the GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB. The average framerates between the Radeon HD 2900 XT and GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB are very close. We received an average of 22.3 FPS with the Radeon HD 2900 XT and an average of 23.2 FPS with the GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB, a meaningless 1 FPS difference. Of course the GTX and Ultra are faster, but compared to the 640 MB GeForce 8800 GTS the Radeon HD 2900 XT is making a good showing.
Whether their assessment that it is vram or not is accurate (good assumption though as that is the only diff) it is THAT performance look that has me seeing vram being more important on new games. (and ya, games like GRAW require it to enable some features) If you have the money, buy the extra buffer and get the 2900 or 640gts.
...ok, maybe they are not THAT bad, but they are not really into doing "extensive" testing. Honestly, no explanation for the performance discrepancy there? Nothing saying why crossfire does not work beyond "users will likely have to...". And what is with 800x600? Does ANY gamer still run at that res?! lol.
Here is a better bioshock test that shows a slight edge to the bigger memory cards. (HUGE win in dx9 for the 2900 over even a gtx, but loss in dx10 to the 320 shows drivers still need work) Yes, it is not 1280 res, but as games get more hungry that 1280 becomes harder to do.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/
here is call of juarez:
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM4NCwzLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
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You will no doubt notice the drastic performance of the 320 MB GeForce 8800 GTS at these settings. Basically this video card lacks the RAM capacity to run at these settings in DX10 mode. The video card seems to be running out of local memory storage and thus is using the PCI-Express bus to transfer textures, utterly killing performance in this game at these high settings. It seems with the 320 MB GeForce 8800 GTS you are going to have to run at a lower resolution or lower settings......Once again the ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT is performing strongly. It seems to be right on the heels of the GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB. The average framerates between the Radeon HD 2900 XT and GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB are very close. We received an average of 22.3 FPS with the Radeon HD 2900 XT and an average of 23.2 FPS with the GeForce 8800 GTS 640 MB, a meaningless 1 FPS difference. Of course the GTX and Ultra are faster, but compared to the 640 MB GeForce 8800 GTS the Radeon HD 2900 XT is making a good showing.
Whether their assessment that it is vram or not is accurate (good assumption though as that is the only diff) it is THAT performance look that has me seeing vram being more important on new games. (and ya, games like GRAW require it to enable some features) If you have the money, buy the extra buffer and get the 2900 or 640gts.
Heyyou27 said:
Doom3 and Quake 4 recommend a 512MB videocard for "Ultra" quality, but both games run fine on a 256MB videocard like a 7900GT.I have the first GRAW and it is not a recommendation, it requires 512 for the high-res textures and such... firingsquad did a test a while back on vram usage w/ that game and confirmed it used somewhere around 430 megs (if I remember correctly) when enabling all features. They could force it to run on 256 but the game performance tanked.
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