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August 14, 2007 1:26:53 PM

My new builds (witch to get?):

AMD ADO4600CUBOX - Athlon 64X2 4600+ (2400 MHz), Socket AM2, 512KB x2, Boxed, 65W
MB Gigabyte GA-M55S-S3, nForce 550, S-AM2, ATX 24p., PCI-E x16 / 2xPCI / 4xPCI-x / Dual DDR2-800, SATAII Raid, SB 8ch.&1394&Lan on board.
2*TwinMOS 8D25KK-TW - DDR II 1024 MB PC6400, 800MHz, SPD 5-5-5-15, 1.9~2.0V, PCB cu 6 straturi, Black Heatspreader, Ambalaj retail
HDD SAMSUNG 320 GB 7200rpm 16Mb Serial-ATA II 300 HD321KJ with NCQ
FDD ALPS 3,5i BLACK
DVD+/-RW ASUS DRW-1814BLT-B Lightscribe - 8X18X8X16X - 48X32X48X Serial-ATA BULK Dual Layer BLACK
NX88S320H-B-RH, nVidia GeForce 8800GTS, PCI-E, 320MB, 320 bit, DDRIII, TV-Out, DVI-I, TwinView, Fan, Core 500MHz, Mem 1600MHz
BlackFin II, otel, neagra, Front USB & Audio, ventilator 12cm, SP-2709B, Speeze
Thermaltake W0062RE - Sursa ATX 12V v2.0 * Putere: 420W * Linii: 2x12V * PFC: N/A * Ventilator: 12cm - 2000 RPM(+/-10%) * Conectori: alimentare 24 pini (20+4), 1 x 8 pini, 1 x 6 pini (PCIE), 8 x molex 4 pini, 2 x FDD, 2 x SATA * Eficienta: 70% * Sleeving pt cabluri: DA * Protectie: supratensiune, subtensiune, scurt-circuit * Extra: Mirror Coating

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Intel BX80557E6750 - Pentium4 Core™2 Duo E6750 2670 MHz, Socket 775, 4MB, FSB 1333 Boxed, 64 biti
GIGABYTE Intel P35, s.775, FSB 1333, LAN, SATA 2, PCI-E, Dual DDR2, ATX, P35-DS3
2*TwinMOS 8D25KK-TW - DDR II 1024 MB PC6400, 800MHz, SPD 5-5-5-15, 1.9~2.0V, PCB cu 6 straturi, Black Heatspreader, Ambalaj retail
HDD SAMSUNG 320 GB 7200rpm 16Mb Serial-ATA II 300 HD321KJ with NCQ
FDD ALPS 3,5i BLACK
DVD+/-RW ASUS DRW-1814BLT-B Lightscribe - 8X18X8X16X - 48X32X48X Serial-ATA BULK Dual Layer BLACK
Sapphire Radeon X1950 PRO 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI / TVO ; Single Slot; Fan w/ Heatsink plus ram sink
CASE UTT - MacaLink A-2656-2C (Aqua) LCB-450W ATX 420(H)x180(W)x440(D) Black USB + Audio TAC
Thermaltake W0062RE - Sursa ATX 12V v2.0 * Putere: 420W * Linii: 2x12V * PFC: N/A * Ventilator: 12cm - 2000 RPM(+/-10%) * Conectori: alimentare 24 pini (20+4), 1 x 8 pini, 1 x 6 pini (PCIE), 8 x molex 4 pini, 2 x FDD, 2 x SATA * Eficienta: 70% * Sleeving pt cabluri: DA * Protectie: supratensiune, subtensiune, scurt-circuit * Extra: Mirror Coating - 119.30

950 USD both are the seem price

Is everything ok with it, witch is best, not planing upgrades for a year.
August 14, 2007 2:43:51 PM

The price is high, but...
The first one has better graphics and will likely perform a little better in games. The PSU looks marginal for that build though.
The second one will be better in everything else, and won't give up too much in games. Same PSU.
Do you have the option to buy the parts and build it yourself? If not, and I were making the choice, I'd choose #2.
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August 14, 2007 3:27:49 PM

The problem is that, i have choosen these parts...I have no more money for it, i am trying to get the best solution here. I am not a fan of intel,nvidia,ati/amd, so no problem there. I dont like the idea of oc-ing a 4300 because, i buyed a 4300 but i didint get the ocing potential what was I hoping for. So for my ocing counts little, that is why x1950 pro and not 7900gs.(in my country Romania there is no RMA, if it works on factory settings than no one will change it for another). The PSU is like you sad marginal, best for its price, i have done research on the net, and it sould be enough.:) . MY BIG question is that will an x1950pro hold on for a year?. I have a 17" monitor so 1280*1024 with all the eyecandy (i can live without fsaa) will do it.
August 14, 2007 4:08:03 PM

Well, it's faster than my 7900GS, and I don't plan on upgrading that any time soon; maybe if/when the 8800 GTS is < $200 I'll think about it.
August 14, 2007 4:13:18 PM

Honestly, the 1950pro should be good for another 6 months to a year. It's on the margins but still a good card. Go for the Intel build and enjoy the fact that all you have to do is upgrade the video card and it'll kill the AMD in performance. The prices are a little high, but you're in Romania, right? That's explains why.
If you can scrape another $100US or so together, maybe buy an 8800GTS 320mb to just cap it off. Seems like a little now rather than a lot later. If you want all the eye candy, you'll need a little better video than that 1950pro.
August 14, 2007 4:18:38 PM

I'd get #1 if all these are true, otherwise #2:
- the computer is only for games, no serious work at all
- you really want all the eye candy
- you play demanding games like Oblivion, rather than less demanding games like Doom or Battlefield

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=725&model2=778&chart=277
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=725&model2=778&chart=296
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=725&model2=778&chart=287

Look at the charts for yourself. In Oblivion you really want the 8800 GTS. In Doom or Battlefield either video card is fine and you're better off with #2.

August 14, 2007 4:41:36 PM

Yes, I want to play demanding games like Bioshock, Crysis, Star Craft2, World in Conflict, Lost Planet. Dx 10 is not needed yet, if i buy 8800 gts i will play also in dx9 because is so much faster, than previous generation cards. I only need 25 fps in rts games and 30 in fps. I would use it for gaming mostly, but i want to work with photoshop and corel also.
August 14, 2007 4:55:57 PM

Can you get #2 but with E6550, no floppy, and 8800 GTS?
August 14, 2007 5:07:15 PM

I have to pay with RON (in romania) x1950 pro is 460 RON and a 8800 gts 320 mb is 890 RON, so almoust double. With the 6550 and no floppy i can save up to 100 RON. That is all. Or I wait until prices come down.
August 15, 2007 3:03:45 PM

Best not to play the waiting game.

Developers aren't going to abandon the DX9 base any time soon (hell, nearly half of us gamers are still using cards from the Radeon 9xxx era ;-P) so an X1950 pro is going to be able to play anything that comes out in the next two years I would think (even if it only plays at medium settings).
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