Penryn require DDR3?

[zeek987]

Will Penryn quod core cpus require DDR3 memory?

As in, If I buy a mobo that supports both ddr2 and ddr3 right now, currently use it with DDR2 and a q6600, will it require that I use DDR3 if i choose to upgrade to Penryn?

Thanks!

 

[pausert20]

No! It depends on the chipset not the processor.

 

[jt001]

Like the above poster said, it's dependent on the chipset, not the CPU with Intel platforms.

As long as the board supports Peryn then you'll be fine using either type of RAM

 

[suzukii]

N00b here...
Is there a significant difference between DDR2 & DDR3. Can one actually see the difference between the two or is it too soon to ask that question?

 

[Slyfox]

DDR 2 - Very Cheap

DDR 3 - Very Expensive

 

[pausert20]

N00b here...
Is there a significant difference between DDR2 & DDR3. Can one actually see the difference between the two or is it too soon to ask that question?

Higher bandwidth. Supposedly they are seeing over DDR3 2000 when overclocking. Currently higher Latency than DDR2 just like when DDR2 came out. Max JEDEC bandwidth is only 1333 with the expectation of JEDEC formalizing DDR3 1600.

Lowest latency DDR3 memory is DDR3 1600 7-7-7 timings from Super Talent

Fastest DDR3 memory is DDR3 1800 8-8-8 timings from OCZ

 

[the_vorlon]

Right now, you are nuts to buy DDR3

There is, maybe, a few % better performance with DDR3 if you buy ultra high end DDR3, but for quadrupple the price.

In 99.99% of the cases you would be better off spending the money needed to by DDR3 on just about any other component upgrade.

DDR3 will... eventually.... outrun DDR2 by quite a bit, but thats likely a good 12 months out from now.

Aledgedly Barcelona/Phenom will fly on DDR3, but anything related to those chips is pure speclation at this point.

 

[pausert20]

Well, right now it does outrun DDR2. In cost and performance.

 

[mikeyp410]

As far as I know the Penryn's will be a different socket anyhow so I wouldn't worry about it.

I could be wrong but thats what ive heard.

 

[mikeyp410]

That is seeing how you already have your mobo or are going to purchase one.

 

[spaztic7]

N00b here...
Is there a significant difference between DDR2 & DDR3. Can one actually see the difference between the two or is it too soon to ask that question?

As of right now, ddr3 has higher bandwidth but high latency.

ddr2 is less bandwidth but very little latency, respectivly.

 

[enewmen]

Higher bandwidth. Supposedly they are seeing over DDR3 2000 when overclocking. Currently higher Latency than DDR2 just like when DDR2 came out. Max JEDEC bandwidth is only 1333 with the expectation of JEDEC formalizing DDR3 1600.

Lowest latency DDR3 memory is DDR3 1600 7-7-7 timings from Super Talent

Fastest DDR3 memory is DDR3 1800 8-8-8 timings from OCZ

Do you know if the p965 "can" run a Penryn/Yorkfield? Those boards can run 1333 and the BIOS can be updated. But does the p965s also have the voltage range?

 

[pausert20]

Do you know if the p965 "can" run a Penryn/Yorkfield? Those boards can run 1333 and the BIOS can be updated. But does the p965s also have the voltage range?

I can give you the Intel line. The 965 chipset has never been validated to support a 1333 FSB processor. The new 3 series chipset is designed and tested to run 1333 FSB processors.

Now onto what can actually been done on a 965 motherboard. It depends on the motherboard design. I could not find anything that stated that Intel is going to support 1333FSB on their 965 motherboards. In fact from what I have seen they are really pushing hard to move people board manufacturers to the 3 series chipset. Intel is pricing the series 3 chipset at cost parity to the 965.

There was a news announcement that I can't locate right now that indicates that Intel is going to drop the 1066 FSB Conroe's and only have 1333 FSB Conroes along with the new Wolfdale and Yorkfield processors. The date for this was at the first of the year.

 

[jaguarskx]

But does the p965s also have the voltage range?

My guess would be no.

 

[asdftt123]

As far as I know the Penryn's will be a different socket anyhow so I wouldn't worry about it.

I could be wrong but thats what ive heard.

That's incorrect. It is still LGA 775. I've heard somewhere that there will be no new sockets until Nehalem.

Also, just being picky...Penryn is the name for the family of CPU's and the mobile version of the 45nm Dual Core. Desktop versions are called Wolfdale (45nm Duo), and Yorkfield (45nm Quad).

 

[accord99]

Do you know if the p965 "can" run a Penryn/Yorkfield? Those boards can run 1333 and the BIOS can be updated. But does the p965s also have the voltage range?

Asus P965 (and even 975x) motherboards will:
http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

 

[mikeyp410]

That's incorrect. It is still LGA 775. I've heard somewhere that there will be no new sockets until Nehalem.

Also, just being picky...Penryn is the name for the family of CPU's and the mobile version of the 45nm Dual Core. Desktop versions are called Wolfdale (45nm Duo), and Yorkfield (45nm Quad).

Ya I just heard it around that they were going to change the socket type. It did not make me too happy when I heard it because I just recently bought a 775 mobo. I am happy that it is not true though.

 

[Maziar]

In IRAN , 4GB DDR2 800 is a lot cheaper than 2GB DDR3 10066 with horrible timings

 

[Crashman]

Higher bandwidth. Supposedly they are seeing over DDR3 2000 when overclocking. Currently higher Latency than DDR2 just like when DDR2 came out. Max JEDEC bandwidth is only 1333 with the expectation of JEDEC formalizing DDR3 1600.

Lowest latency DDR3 memory is DDR3 1600 7-7-7 timings from Super Talent

Fastest DDR3 memory is DDR3 1800 8-8-8 timings from OCZ

Ah, but the timings aren't really that bad: If you underclock your Super Talent DDR3-1600 to 1066 data rate you can run it at CAS4 just like you would DDR2-1066 CAS4. And since timings are measured in clock cycles, 1600MHz at CAS7 is only 1 cycle slower than 1066 at CAS4 (1600-CAS6 is the same response time as 1066-CAS4).

 

[dobby]

unless they specifically say it assume no, however it problery draw a big advantage from DDR3 so it would be so bad

 

[enewmen]

Asus P965 (and even 975x) motherboards will:
http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

YES !!
I found this on the Asus web-site.
Good news Indeed !!
Yorkfield all the way !