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ctopher10

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ok here's the deal.
My neighbor has got a wireless router connected to a cable modem. Since I dont have cable i asked him if i can connect to his network. He does not know how i can connect but he said that if there is a way i can do it. He lives across the street shich is about 500ft away. I would like to know all the steps and parts needed which allow me to connect to his connection, i dont even have to be part of his LAN. My plan is to use the wireless connection for one computer (mine) and possibly an Xbox, I allready have a switch and wires for when i get the Wireless connection in my house. I do not think that hes security is very tight so i wont have to be running between houses. thakns alot for your time in advance.


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This is almost certainly against the providers terms of service. Unless your friend is an internet provider I'd suggest you have him contact his to find out their opinion about this. This is theft of service and hopefully nobody on this board will help you with this.

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Doing it is easy but if they find out they'll cut off his service.

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Ah, the beauty of youth. I'm sure there was a time I would have come off like the punk you seem to be. You'll learn junior. Well maybe you will anyway.

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kwebb

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Well maybe not, and no thanks. I'm sure you can find another guy to do that for you on your own.

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well i would just like to know how this could be done... i never said im going to do it.. im jsut curious, and its not against any terms of service. so please i just want information. Freedom of Speech and information. oh yea..lol


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It is not illegal unless is is theft of service or unauthorized connection to a network, i.e. wardriving. You ought to look into a directional wifi antenna like:

Check <A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/wifi_cantenna_review.php" target="_new">this</A> out.
 
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junior! LOL!!!

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"and its not against any terms of service"

Really? I seriously doubt it. Would be a very generous provider? Who's his broadband with?
 
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"oooo, good come back."

Thanks. Don't worry though little buddy. You'll pick up plenty of wisecracks once you get a little older. Elementary school isn't exactly a hotbed for pointed responses.

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I don't think it's illegal since it's like sharing a network connection. You can have more than one computer on your internet connection.

But I am really not sure if you will be able to connect. It is really too far. The range is something like 300ft without any walls.

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Nope, it's not like sharing your connection with your own household. The argument is tiresome. Ask your provider. They'll give you the skinny. $10 paypal to you if your ISP will allow you to share your connection with neighbors. There actually be some very liberal providers that will allow it but buy and large, it will be a very explicit "no way".

Edit: post your provider support email if you want the money though and who you spoke to/emailed you.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kwebb68 on 02/23/04 08:31 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
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My provider told me that I couldn't share it when they were here installing my cable.

Shouldn't and couldn't are two seperate things though.

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Retailers all over the country tell customers that they will be able to allow multiple computers to use the same broadband connection. I do believe that the TOS refer to all household systems as being legal. However, if it a neighbor, whether next door or across the street, I can see this as going against the TOS. However, Ctopher asked for the neighbor's permission and although it can be seen as a "guest" computer...as if a friend brought over his laptop to use on the front lawn, in his car, on the roof, in the backyard, etc.

I see no problem with this. I have worked at a Gateway Country where the Cox Cable representative comes in at least once every two weeks. He sees no problem with it either.


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jp5 posted a link to a good article regarding the cAntenna. Sounds like what you'll need to boost reception.

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I'm not sure how they monitor it. If you're jacking someone from across the street I can see that as being a problem. However, if it's your next door neighbor or someone in the apt down the hall I don't see how they COULD stop you.

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It'd be pretty hard for the provider to find out. If they did they could most certainly stop you. It's against ISP TOS. The argument can be made for it being right or wrong morally or ethically but it's really not even an arguable point as to whether or not it's binding and/or allowed by your provider. No large provider would allow it, and it would unusual for a smaller ISP to allow it. Why would they. Let the guy get his own account. If you want to be an ISP, which is what your doing if you re-sell the connection leased to you, then do just that.

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you call that a beating? your just a loser thats afraid to step on any toes.

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Time to lick your wounds and shuffle off j, it's over and has been for what? a week now. Be a good little boy and go peacefully with your tail between your legs.

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