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GeForce 8600M GT DX10 question....

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August 27, 2007 1:26:34 PM

Hi there, just wondering if anyone can help me, i'm purchasing a Macbook Pro which comes with a NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT graphics card. When Leapord OS10.5 is released I plan to install Windows Vista, will the card handle the new DX10 games at a decent level?

Thanks, J
August 27, 2007 1:47:27 PM

The short answer is no.
August 27, 2007 2:15:21 PM

A 8600 cannot handle much of anything. A 7900 series or x1900 series blows it out of the water.
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August 27, 2007 3:11:42 PM

Then why do the brand new Mackbook Pro's have them? They are made to be graphically powerful aren't they? So they can handle image creation/manipulation.
August 27, 2007 3:17:38 PM

Mac's and graphically powerful just don't go together. The best card I have ever seen in a Macbook was the X1900 which was actually not that good. Look at windows machines that come with 7950GTX's, now that's power! I think the others are missing the fact that it's the mobile version of the card which is slightly better than the desktop version. It should be able to play those games at LOW settings, but I wouldn't expect much.
August 27, 2007 3:19:05 PM

To Oofki: you do realize that he's talking about a mobile card, right? I know they have GeForce Go 7900s, my friend has one and it's really slow on Vista.

@OP, I honestly think that you should be able to play at an acceptable level, but don't have high hopes.
August 27, 2007 3:47:06 PM

8600gt is the best of the dx10 mobile solutions at the moment.

It should be good for gaming, my brother's laptop has a 7600gt and it does well at 1280x800 resolution with medium settings. just make sure you have 2gigs of ram in the laptop.
August 27, 2007 4:39:33 PM

Actually, the 8700M GT is the fastest mobile Direct X10 graphics card out, and is slower than a stock 8600GTS.
August 27, 2007 4:43:18 PM

The 8700 actually isn't officially out yet. You can pre-order, but I have yet to see an actual laptop with one. The 8700GT performs closely to the 7950GTX in my laptop so it's not that bad. The GTX still wins though :)  .
August 27, 2007 4:59:28 PM

right now, I am typing this on a new MBP that I got for college. Like they said, don't have incredibly high hopes, but at the same time for a mobile chip, it is surprisingly powerful. The 8700 that they are talking about is just an overclocked 8600 gt, there is nothing physically different about it. I have played the Bioshock demo on it at 1440x900 with all settings except AA on high and it ran just fine, like 30-45 fps, but this isn't really what you would call future-proof. Then again, who buys a laptop for future-proofing? It's all about mobility and in that respect, I am quite happy with this laptop.
August 27, 2007 5:05:20 PM

lostandwandering said:
The 8700 actually isn't officially out yet. You can pre-order, but I have yet to see an actual laptop with one. The 8700GT performs closely to the 7950GTX in my laptop so it's not that bad. The GTX still wins though :)  .
I can't believe it's not available yet when it's been on Nvidia's site for the past two months. The 8700M GT has a stock clockspeed 50MHz slower than the 8600GTS, and I'm pretty sure with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, your Go 7950GTX would give it a pounding.
August 27, 2007 5:19:57 PM

Ok thanks guys, that helps out alot, as long as it runs the games for the next couple of years i'll be happy :) 
August 27, 2007 5:33:59 PM

Yeah it should be able to run the games for the next couple of years. you will just have to sacrafice some settings.

Battery life on the 8600gt i am sure smokes the 7950gtx, so there is a silver lining...
August 27, 2007 5:45:53 PM

it might not be as fast as a7950 but it wont burn your leg off either. And you might actually be able to play something for more than 20 minutes without it being plugged into the wall.
August 27, 2007 6:27:29 PM

Wonder how well it overclocks or if future drivers will help. I had a dell 1705 with the Geforce 7900gs and it was great. I hope this will be the same speed or close if I OC it or get tweaked drivers. If it is then it will be able to play most any games at 1920x1200 without problem. I ordered my 1720 with a lower screen (1440x900 i think) to help it run better in games so we will see...
August 27, 2007 6:33:37 PM

ap90033 said:
Wonder how well it overclocks or if future drivers will help. I had a dell 1705 with the Geforce 7900gs and it was great. I hope this will be the same speed or close if I OC it or get tweaked drivers. If it is then it will be able to play most any games at 1920x1200 without problem. I ordered my 1720 with a lower screen (1440x900 i think) to help it run better in games so we will see...


You know you can play games at non-native res and not loose image quality right? I play BF2142 @ 1600x1200 and my native is 1920x1200. There is NO difference in quality. The lower res may actually look better since I can crank up the eye-candy.


To the person who said the thing about battery life: yes you are most likely correct. My powerful laptop gets about 1.5 hours on an 8-cell (highest offered).
August 27, 2007 6:41:36 PM

Oh I played it safe, I ordered the 1720 with Core 2 2.2ghz, 4 gig ram, 8600m gt video and 1440x900 screen. I am hoping I can run native res with all or most settings maxed...
August 27, 2007 7:07:46 PM

ap90033 said:
Oh I played it safe, I ordered the 1720 with Core 2 2.2ghz, 4 gig ram, 8600m gt video and 1440x900 screen. I am hoping I can run native res with all or most settings maxed...
It's very unlikely you'll be able to play newer titles at the maximum quality.
August 27, 2007 7:13:15 PM

Hope you are wrong... I was pretty impressed with the 7900gs and hope the 8600 can do close to the same... specially considering I am going from a cored duo 1.8 to core 2 2.2, 2 gig ram to 4 gig ram, and screen 1920x1200 to 1440x900... Geez...
August 27, 2007 7:34:14 PM

Actually everyone, you might be able to make use of that dx10, since these laptop gfx cards aren't MUCH different from the desktop versions and my 8600 gts, runs dx10 bioshock on high settings with decent fps (but you'll get a rootkit along with the game, even the demo)
August 27, 2007 8:17:03 PM

spuddyt said:
Actually everyone, you might be able to make use of that dx10, since these laptop gfx cards aren't MUCH different from the desktop versions and my 8600 gts, runs dx10 bioshock on high settings with decent fps (but you'll get a rootkit along with the game, even the demo)
A stock 8600GTS runs at a 675MHz core, 1.45GHz shader, and 2GHz(effective) memory speeds. The 8600M GT only runs at 475MHz core, 950MHz shader, and 1.4GHz(effective) memory so the performance difference between it and your 8600GTS would be pretty large. Also, the only difference between Bioshock in Direct X9 vs. Direct X10 is the use of soft particles.

Direct X9:

Direct X10:
August 27, 2007 8:26:43 PM

ah well, he'll still run it smoothly on medium-low graphics and its an awesome game either way (apart from the antipirate software)
August 28, 2007 12:29:41 AM

yes the 8700 is out you can only buy it with a couple of laptops.... and BTW, the 8600m gt runs modern games just fine. the stock drivers suck, and you get massive performance increases with desktop versions of the 8xxx series drivers. I can run bioshock with high settings, at a decent resolution, without dipping below 30 FPS regularly.
November 5, 2007 6:01:45 PM

How do I use the desktop version of the driver? Every time i try to install it says my card is not recognized hardware. I'm using an 8600M GT on a Dell 1720.

Specs: Core 2 Duo @ 2.4GHz, 4GB DDR2, 2x250GB in raid 0, 8600M GT, HD screen @ 1920 x 1200
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