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High Temperature - E6600 with Zalman

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August 19, 2007 4:24:33 AM

ell as the title states i have an Intel E6600 with a Zalman heatsink and Arctic Silver 5.

e6600 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
Zalman - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1683...

And here are my temps.



Now looking online and also seeing my friends temps with the Zalman and artic silver 5 usually get around 20c or at the very least like 30c.

Im trying to figure out why my cpu is at 40c? Both me and my friend have tried various applications of arctic silver 5 and it always ends up around 40c.

Right now i have the AS5 on the way it says on the AS5 manual.

Also, why exactly is the Aux at 127c?

It is not overclocked.

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August 19, 2007 7:43:51 PM

anything?
August 19, 2007 8:01:59 PM

I'm not a speed fan user, but I see Core1 @37 and Core2 @37 and CPU @39. Looks good to me. I have no clue what AUX is.
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August 19, 2007 8:04:26 PM

Well right now during the day the

CPU is at 45c
and two cores are at 41c

I'm looking at threads right now with people who have stock cooling and are running at like 30c. I'm pretty sure i didnt spend the money on the zalman to have shitty temps.
August 19, 2007 8:15:44 PM

whats your ambient temperatures?
August 19, 2007 8:29:30 PM

About 28c
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August 19, 2007 8:30:18 PM

[:mousemonkey:4] Your link is broke, which Zalman is it? and are you using the fan controller or do you have it plugged into the motherboard?
August 19, 2007 8:35:40 PM

Sorry bout that *Fixed* im using the 9500 with the fan controller all the way up, about 2400 RPMs
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August 19, 2007 8:56:42 PM

No worries mate, I use a 9500 on my 939 rig and thought it was a bit of a pain to fit, the tightening down procedure that I used was the diagonal one and I really thought the mobo was about to crack! I have mine plugged into the mobo though and it spins up to 2600 - 2700, assuming that you have tightened it right down then do you have any HDD's directly in front of it because that really knackers the performance on mine I also found that removing one of the floppy drive covers really improved the airflow for about 7c-9c worth.
August 19, 2007 9:04:04 PM

28C is pretty hot...does your case have decent airflow?
August 19, 2007 9:53:00 PM

I'm not too sure about the airflow, i think the case is quite bad but i cant tell for sure. No the HDD is at the bottom right further down than the Video Card


http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4316/0818071741tx6.j...

http://im g184.image shack.us/img184/4592/0818071744iz4.jpg

heres a pic, sorry for the bad quality.
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August 19, 2007 10:16:17 PM

You do appear to have some cables obstructing the airflow there mate, here are a couple of piccy's of mine which may give you some idea's on improving your airflow.



August 20, 2007 12:34:27 AM

I cant really do anything crazy like that with the cables, im not very experienced.

Im thinking about buying new case fans or a whole new case as a matter of fact.

Someone told me that he had the same CPU/Fan/Case as me and that the stock fans are terrible and recommended that i buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681... to replace them.
August 20, 2007 1:31:01 AM

Mousemonkey said:
You do appear to have some cables obstructing the airflow there mate, here are a couple of piccy's of mine which may give you some idea's on improving your airflow.

]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/937/1000121df2.th.jpg

]http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/8066/1000122xw8.th.jpg


Nice setup mousemonkey, Gotta love those Corsair PSUs. ;) 
Twisted, cable management is something you don't need much skill to do. Just get the cables together and tie them out of the way. The more you do the better you get. A few cases with good airflow check these ones out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 (great deal!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068 (I have used this one many times.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112116(Can't go wrong with Lian Li.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133021(tons of room inside)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119103( a monster case!)





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August 20, 2007 11:01:36 AM

Thanks Gh0stDrag0 n, I :love:  the Corsairs so much I now have two!.

@Twisted Like Gh0stDrag0 n has said skill isn't required, just time, patience a large bunch of cable ties and a pair of small nosed wire snips (for cutting the tails off the cable ties!) then you just need to sit down and start moving cables out of the way and either tie them to the sides of the case or to each other bearing in mind that you can always cut the ties off and start again, remember it doesn't matter how good or powerful your fans are if the airflow is blocked they are just spinning in space doing nowt.
August 20, 2007 12:37:58 PM

moving those cables out of the way isnt going to help you that much. First we need to know what your full load temps are.

If I had to guess, your zalman isnt mounted perfectly square. You might want to try lapping the cpu. I had a similar problem except I'm using a q6600 so I was getting temps near 55C at idle. It felt like it was mounted correctly so I figure it was the lapping that helped. But it could have just been the act of remounting it. Or maybe you've got too much grease? Grease is good but some people go a bit overboard with the stuff...

As I said, my zalman is mounted on a quadcore. But one thing I can tell you about an E6600 is that my pc at work is an E6600 with stock cooling. And it is overclocked to 3.24 GHz, and it idles less than yours. lol. Been going that way for 3 months now. You dont need anything better than stock cooling for an E6600. The extra couple hundred MHz you (might) get from that cooler isnt worth the price.
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August 20, 2007 12:46:24 PM

shadowmaster625 said:
moving those cables out of the way isnt going to help you that much.

Won't know until you try.
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You might want to try lapping the cpu.

If the OP did not feel that they had the skill to exercise some simple cable management then lapping is way out of the question is it not?
August 20, 2007 10:24:36 PM

I'll give the cable management a try, ive heard about cpu lapping but yea i would probably mess that up somehow.
August 20, 2007 10:33:57 PM

I dunno what you guys are smoking but 37c is low temp. I would say 53c is normal use and 62c on load is okay. If you get like 70c start asking some question but common 37c and the other jack** say 28c is high !!! I think hes high !
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August 20, 2007 10:49:24 PM

srgess said:
I dunno what you guys are smoking but 37c is low temp. I would say 53c is normal use and 62c on load is okay. If you get like 70c start asking some question but common 37c and the other jack** say 28c is high !!! I think hes high !

WTF are you on bro? here is a screen shot of an E6850 rig running on the standard HSF ]27c an E6600 is not much hotter." target="_blank"> note the CPU temp at a heady 27c an E6600 is not much hotter.[/urlExt]
August 20, 2007 10:58:55 PM

This is what a say 27c is pretty low temps. I just say that past 60c idle you may have something go wrong, but under that your fine. I see too much post about is my temps are high? and the guy post 30c... New rules need to be apply :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 
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August 20, 2007 11:26:51 PM

srgess said:
This is what a say 27c is pretty low temps. I just say that past 60c idle you may have something go wrong, but under that your fine. I see too much post about is my temps are high? and the guy post 30c... New rules need to be apply :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that most people do not share your opinion that 53c - 62c is a normal or particularly desirable temperature to have their CPU at.
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August 21, 2007 12:42:33 AM

Twisted, at 39c your CPU temp is wrong, your Core Temps are normal, your Zalman 9500 mounts just fine, and no one has yet correctly grasped the nature of your temperature problem. Tcase (CPU) is always lower than Tjunction (Core Temps), and should Idle just 1c to 2c above Ambient (room temp) at low Vcore and stock clock. This is a common abnormality known as an "Offset", and can easily be corrected within SpeedFan.

Please read the Core 2 Duo Temperature Guide http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/221745-29-core-temper... to understand CPU thermal relationships. As for "Aux" 127c, this is a known issue with SpeedFan, which is simply reading an unassigned sensor input, and is normal. Just uncheck "Aux" in the "Configure" menu, and pay close attention to the Offsets section of the Guide.

Hope this helps,

Comp
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August 21, 2007 1:05:49 AM

Nice one CompuTronix, glad you popped in, I don't use speedfan and thus am blissfully unaware of it's quirks which is why I went down the airflow route, which I still maintain as being a good idea.
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August 21, 2007 1:31:56 AM

mousemonkey, computer case cooling is always a topic high on my list of cooling priorities, so I couldn't agree more, however in this instance, the OP's most obvious issue is a simple offset problem. In the Guide, I recommend SpeedFan due to it's flexibility, particularily for offset corrections, which can solve this problem.

Comp :sol: 
August 21, 2007 1:38:29 AM

Computronix beat me to it, Core temps are always 15C hotter than CPU temps.
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August 21, 2007 12:14:08 PM

Thanks chaps, I shall try to remember that 15c offset issue for future reference, I suppose I should really play about with a copy of speedfan myself as it seems to be what most users of Intel CPU's use to monitor their temps, but having only recently come over to the 'darkside' as it were from twelve years AMD usage I'm just used to using different software, a combination of Rivatuner & Everest in my case, which has always worked well for me and it's been a case of 'better the devil you know' since getting this currant rig up and running.
August 21, 2007 1:41:50 PM

I look at it like this- your CPU temp tells you how well your cooling method is, the ability to tranfer heat faster. I mostly ignor CPU temps because core temps are more acurrate.
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