New Build have no clue please help

Hi guys,
I am wanting to buils a new computer come the first of the year but I have no clue as to what to get. I am wanting a gaming computer. I have a friend that says AMD is the way to go. I just want the best bang for my buck and not have to upgrade for a while. Im not into overclocking due to lack of knowledge. If not this setup then what should I get. I just want the best and fastest system for the money. I will be getting everything from Newegg. This is the setup that I was thinking about

NZXT Zero ATX Full Case-----------------------------------------------159.99
Thermaltake Toughpower W0117RU 750W--------------------------------189.99
ASUS Crosshair---------------------------------------------------------249.99
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+------------------------------------------------169.99
Crucial Balistix 4GB(4X1GB) BL2KIT12864AA804---------------------------219.98
Western Digital WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM-------------------------------59.99
EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit--------------------------289.99
Lit-On Combo drive SHC-52S7K-05-OEM----------------------------------24.99
Koutech Io-FPM220 Multi card reader------------------------------------29.99
AeroCool Gatewatch-BK Temp and fan Controller-------------------------52.99
Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium------------------------------------111.99
Thermalright HR-03 Plus VGA Cooler--------------------------------------54.99
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extremem CPU Cooler------------------------------64.99
2 Scyth S-Flex SFF21F 120mm fans for thermalright heat sinks-------------39.98
Thermalright AM2 RM Retention Bracket------------------------------------2.49
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  1. Not much to go on in regards to budget or needs,

    But I think this should be able to handle anything you need to do.
    http://www.falcon-nw.com/config/template.asp?templateId=110

    Let is know if you need more power or less power.
    More Expensive / Less Expensive
  2. I edited post hope this is better info. This is already pushing it for budgetwize.
  3. I am currious as to AMD VS Intel Comparison. What is better for gaming VS price? Are they comparable in price VS speed?
  4. If you plan to OverClock, the Intel Chips offer far better performance for the price. If you will not OC, then the price vs performance is much closer. AMD also offers very low priced CPUs that are still decent for gaming since Gaming is more GPU than CPU dependent.
  5. So my setup is ok or are there changes I should make. Is there any overkill that I selected?
  6. Intel is the way to go, i would get the e6750 219$ oc's like mad and beats the crap 6000+ which is a waste of money. and for an intel motherboard get the gigabyte p35 ds3r. which supports the upcoming 45nm cpu's coming out the end of this year.
  7. You can get a 590 board for $100 less
    and the 5600 can run the ram at the full ddr2 800 speed.
  8. nubbs1 said:
    I just want the best bang for my buck and not have to upgrade for a while. Im not into overclocking due to lack of knowledge.

    NZXT Zero ATX Full Case-----------------------------------------------159.99
    Thermaltake Toughpower W0117RU 750W--------------------------------189.99
    ASUS Crosshair---------------------------------------------------------249.99
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+------------------------------------------------169.99
    Crucial Balistix 4GB(4X1GB) BL2KIT12864AA804---------------------------219.98
    Western Digital WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM-------------------------------59.99
    EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit--------------------------289.99
    Lit-On Combo drive SHC-52S7K-05-OEM----------------------------------24.99
    Koutech Io-FPM220 Multi card reader------------------------------------29.99
    AeroCool Gatewatch-BK Temp and fan Controller-------------------------52.99
    Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium------------------------------------111.99
    Thermalright HR-03 Plus VGA Cooler--------------------------------------54.99
    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extremem CPU Cooler------------------------------64.99
    2 Scyth S-Flex SFF21F 120mm fans for thermalright heat sinks-------------39.98
    Thermalright AM2 RM Retention Bracket------------------------------------2.49


    NZXT - I'd get a Centurion 534 or similar and save about $100.
    Toughpower - Nice, but for that cash you can even get a PC Power & Cooling PSU.
    MB/CPU - make them GA-P35-DS3R and Q6600 instead - this change will cost you about $30, I guess
    RAM - get 2x2GB modules so you can upgrade to 8 GB later
    WD160YS - get a WD5000AAKS instead; you don't need an enterprise-class disk and 160GB is too small anyhow
    GTS - make it GTX ACS3, and ditch the VGA cooler. The ACS3 has a fantastic cooler already
    What is the retention bracket for?

    I'm too sleepy at this hour to check prices, I'll let you do the real work :) I'm guessing it would cost you about $200 more than your original list, but it's worth it.

    Edit: if money is tight ditch the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme too. Since you're not overclocking it won't do much good. It will do some good, but not worth $65 and the video card upgrade is much better value in your case.
  9. thanx for all your help
  10. How is the 2.4ghz faster than the 3.0ghz processor?
  11. aevm,
    Will the setup that u suggested be better and faster than my projected setup? Also cant find the 8800GTX ACS3 u suggested.
  12. Wow! What is your budget? $1,500? We can help you better if we know your limit to your budget. Intel is the better CPU right now for the $ (if you can afford it). AMD has alot of more inexpensive CPU's right now (especially under $100).
    The Gigahertz race (how is 2.4ghz faster than a 3.0ghz processor) is not the same now. The newer architechure (chip design) is different than it was a year ago. So don't get fooled by the old gigahertz thing. If you get a C2D it will be much faster than a P4 chip by a long shot.
  13. I really only want to spend around $1500 to $1700 total. I will not be building this til 1st of the year and I know things will change and prices will go down. I just want to kind of get a jump on things and see what I am looking at when the time comes. But I would like the best comp for the money and gaming.
  14. the e6750 isnt 2.4 ghz its 2.66ghz its much much faster than amd 6000+ even the new 3200+ isnt as fast as the e6750. if you dont believe me look at the benchmarks http://xtreview.com/review208.htm


    unless you are blind the e6750 wins everytime

    so you are better of getting the e6750, and after than you can overclock it very easily to 3.6 or more with stock hsf.

    the e6750 is much better for gaming also will go great with a 880 gtx
  15. Srry for all the stupid questions but now im confused first was suggested the Q6600 and now the E6750. Is the E6750 better than the Q6600 also the GA-P35-DS3R mother board only has 1 pci 16X slot so if I want to get another 8800 in the future this MB wont work any other MB suggestions? Thanks for all your help in understanding all this stuff guys. You are great.
  16. Firstly motherboards, yes it only has one pci-e x16 slot but there is no need for two because it doesn't support sli the p35 chip doesn't. secondly unless you play games at 1920 x 1200 there is no need for sli your better of just getting the next best card. because the performance boost isnt doubled 't when you have 2 cards there is only a small performance increase. therefore you are better of getting a single card if you are playing at say 1680 by 1050.

    but if you do play games at 1920 by 1200 then by all means get a 680i board like a Evga 680o board. so you can get 2 8800 gtx later on.

    cpu the e6750 is better for gaming as it is has a higher mhz, 2.66 vs 2.4ghz.

    plus you can overclock the e6750 much higher you can get 3.7ghz easily.

    the quad core is only useful if you are into video editing picturing editing 3d rendering that kind of thing, as they can use 4 cores. nearly all games run on 1 to 2 cores, hence why you are better of getting the e6750. and the e6750 is cheaper too.
  17. Ok guys,
    New setup. Will this blow my first setup out of the water? I wanna stay with the zero case just case I like it.
    Haven't decided if I want to get the 8800GTX or stay with the GTS. Anything I should change?

    NZXT Zero ATX Full Case-----------------------------------------------------------------159.99
    Thermaltake Toughpower W0117RU 750W--------------------------------------------------189.99
    GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard --------------------------129.99
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750-------------204.99
    Patriot eXtreme Performance 4GB(2 x 2GB)PDC24G6400ELK----------------------------------254.90
    Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM --------------------------------109.99
    EVGA 320-P2-N811-AR 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit--------------------------------------------289.99
    Lit-On Combo drive SHC-52S7K-05-OEM---------------------------------------------------24.99
    Koutech Io-FPM220 Multi card reader------------------------------------------------------29.99
    AeroCool Gatewatch-BK Temp and fan Controller-------------------------------------------52.99
    Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium------------------------------------------------------111.99
  18. everything looks good, if you have the money get the 8800 gtx will be worth it. if not say with the 8800 gts 640, or you could consider the 2900 xt, its in between the 8800 gtx and 8800 gts 640
  19. Just by looking at this set up do you think I will need any coolers or do you think the case will be sufficiant?
  20. nubbs1 said:
    Just by looking at this set up do you think I will need any coolers or do you think the case will be sufficiant?


    Antec 900 is less money and is very good at cooling.
  21. nubbs1 said:
    Im not into overclocking due to lack of knowledge.
    You won't need any CPU or GPU coolers unless you want to overclock. And stock CPU cooler is OK if you ever want to try some light overclocking in the future.
    The NZXT Zero case has 1 top, 2 back, 1 front and 4 side fans. Should not be a problem keeping the case cool and motherboard ventilated.
    1600x1200 resolution of higher get the 8800GTX and less than 16x12 the 8800GTS should be good.
    E6750 is a nice little bump up over the X2 6000+ but both are great choices. The E6750 has the edge and its higher overclocking potential (if you ever decide to try it) makes it the better bang for the buck system,
    Review showing E6750 vs X2 6000+ benchmarks
  22. Thanks for your help. When I get ready to built this thing you will probably be hearing from me again.
  23. Your PSU is also extremely expensive, you can find a decent one for half the price..
  24. You may want to consider a Retail package for your optical drive, as it will come with all the software you need like the decoder; for maybe $6-$8 more.
  25. I would also say go with 32bit Vista for now if building for gaming. Granted you will only see about 3.2-3.5GB of you're ram, but the drivers are better for gaming. You can always upgrade to the 64bit version if it is ever necessary.
  26. nubbs1 said:
    aevm,
    Will the setup that u suggested be better and faster than my projected setup? Also cant find the 8800GTX ACS3 u suggested.


    Oh yes, the Q6600 has 4 cores, the X2 6600+ only 2. In some games the Q6600 will totally humiliate the X2 6000+. IN others you'll see something like 20% improvement. Example:
    http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=921&model2=871&chart=421

    Yeah, can't find the ACS3 any more, sorry. Here's a $527 card that beats the 8800 GTS.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130072

    If you can't afford both of these then I'd go with the E6750 indeed. The video card is more important than the CPU in most games. Here's how it works:

    X2 6000+GTS < E6750+GTS < Q6600 + GTS < E6750 + GTX < Q6600 + GTX

    That is, get the Q6600+GTX combo if you can. If you can't, see if you can afford E6750+GTX. If not, try Q6600+GTS, etc etc.
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