With the same system and cooling, would the 6000 Windsor at stick speed of 3.0 run significantly cooler than the
5000Black OC'd to the same 3.0 speed? Any real advantages to the stock 6000 over the OC'd BlacK?

no voided warranty from an oc?

If Windsor is 90nm, wouldn't a 65nm be cooler at stock & overclocked? Or am I missing something?

There are a few reviews knocking around online and most if not all suggest the 65nm 5000+ is a little worse speed wise than the 90nm but slightly better temps think 5C difference but don't quote me on that! Not too sure what people have gotten o/c'ing 65nm 5000+ but i have my 6000+ 90nm at 3.4Ghz 1.5v with little hastle, temp are 31C IDLE and 43-46 LOAD with a thermalright ultra 120. 25secs 1M Super PI. Anyone with a 5000+ black o/c'ed?

Yep, me. 5000+@3ghz stock voltages. Less than 31'C idle. About the same load in Orthos. 1m8sec 2M Pi Mod. I haven't tightened the ram settings yet.

BTW, from what I've read, most boards can't read Brisbane temps right. In Core Temp, it's sub zero. In another board, it's 5'c less than what it is now. Speedfan -2'C. My temp is from BIOS.

Nice overclock with std vcore . Are you going to push for more? I've seen it at 3.3Ghz 200Mhz FSB x16.5 Multi 1.4vcore & std HTT with extra v's for stability, or stay at that an tightnen ram timings? Not gotten round to ram timings just gotten used to this MSI board, it doesn't have anywhere to save your stable overclocks so have to remember everything but 2M PI at 58 secs atm not gunna push for more fsb purely because i'm at 1.5vcore as tiz even if temps are good I'm not wanting to go higher.

Thanks. Your o/c is pretty good.

Of course i'm gonna push the cpu & ram. Just need time. I'm quite happy with 3ghz at stock volts. My ram is at C4 @ 1.95v. The max I got out of the cpu is 3.3Ghz stable. My ram's max is 1167mhz@2.1v stable. It's getting colder & better for overclocking.

Biostar Tforce can back up 1 bios profile, & has built-in memtest.

BTW, I had antivirus, antispyware, etc. running when I did Pi Mod. I see some are optimizing windows just for running super pi.

Do u find you need to 'break in' your cpu before u get good overclocks?

Yeah must admit i have no anti virus or firewall an have killed as many of vista's usless apps but thats purely coz just like it to be a tidy an free as poss. But still got 40 running compared to xp pro which had 23
Just did ram last night and so far at 4-4-4-15 not changed tRAS before so it'll be interesting to find out how low i can go.

Not trying to hjack thread but has anyone else had vista think you've added new hardware an to re-activate it because of an overclock ? Tiz starting to bug me!!

I'm not that hard core. I just let it run memtest overnight the first night, then XP 6 days a week. However, the AS5 has to break in to get better temps.