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Replace 2x6800GS with 8800 for my AMD 4200+?

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September 4, 2007 9:31:04 AM

Dear all,

Recently I realise that I am not getting a good framerate for the new games that are in the market. Bioshock, for instance, I can only achieve an average frame rate of 20 with widescreen format and good quality setup. I am wondering if it is time to replace my 2 SLi configured nVidia 6800GS with the new 8800 card. If so, will my AMD64x2 4200+ be good enough to support the 8800 card?

On a separate notes, my experience with SLi has not been entirely positive. The performance gained doesn't seem to be that drastic and not many games I play actually make good use of it. I am not sure if I should have 2 8800 cards this time round. What do you think?

Regards.
September 4, 2007 9:36:42 AM

I think your processer shouldn't bottleneck an 8800 majorly, but I can't say the same for sli (I asked a similar question a while ago and was told that CPU wouldn't)
September 4, 2007 9:53:43 AM

Ya, I have been hearing a lot of dividing views on what are the recommended processors out there to unlock the decent potential of the 8800 card. I did not replace my 2x6800 with 7 series because the performance gained may not be that huge. But seems that with 8800, it is a different story. Again, just guessing.
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September 4, 2007 9:58:48 AM

that CPU is way more than enough for an 8800GTS, and you'll get a good boost above that going to a GTX... other CPU's would give you a further boost to FPS, but you're talking 10-20FPS extra when your X2 is already giving you 100+ (e.g. no visible difference)

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=672&p=9
September 4, 2007 10:13:50 AM

andybird123 said:
that CPU is way more than enough for an 8800GTS, and you'll get a good boost above that going to a GTX... other CPU's would give you a further boost to FPS, but you're talking 10-20FPS extra when your X2 is already giving you 100+ (e.g. no visible difference)

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=672&p=9


OMG ... I do like that graph! That looks awesome. Now I wonder what would the frame rate be like for a 2x6800 for the same test just for comparison.

Time to save some money for the 8800 card.
September 4, 2007 6:03:37 PM

I'd be surprised if your 4200+ is holding it back at all.

Sounds strange to me, maybe a driver issue with SLI in Bioshock?

Try disabling SLI - how does one 6800GS perform by itself? What resolution are you playing at?


As far as SLI, it's largely a waste. You're better off with a single higher-end card and less hassle. A single higher-end card will uaually perform better than two lesser cards in SLI mode anyway.
September 5, 2007 12:42:44 AM

cleeve said:
I'd be surprised if your 4200+ is holding it back at all.

Sounds strange to me, maybe a driver issue with SLI in Bioshock?

Try disabling SLI - how does one 6800GS perform by itself? What resolution are you playing at?


As far as SLI, it's largely a waste. You're better off with a single higher-end card and less hassle. A single higher-end card will uaually perform better than two lesser cards in SLI mode anyway.


Hi,

The resolution I am running is 1680x1050. I just did another test last night trying to disable SLi. I think while my past experience with SLi was not positive, without SLi, the framerate I am having was below 10 (while having it, the framerate is about 20). I turned off vSync as some of the threads suggested and got about 24 with SLi. Lowering the resolution sticking with widescreen format doesn't help much.

I guess you are right, getting a single higher end card may be better for me. I was just wondering if my AMD 4200+ would be suitable for the 8800 card.
September 5, 2007 2:26:19 AM

If it's an X2 I say you are fine. Will you lose a few frames because its not an X6800? Yeah, but it will still be better (a lot) than what you have. Higher res' tend to be more GPU intensive, so it will take some of the pressure off of the 4200+.
September 5, 2007 2:43:52 AM

Go for it. I don't hear many people complaining about their 8800s.
September 5, 2007 3:12:58 AM

andybird123 said:
that CPU is way more than enough for an 8800GTS, and you'll get a good boost above that going to a GTX... other CPU's would give you a further boost to FPS, but you're talking 10-20FPS extra when your X2 is already giving you 100+ (e.g. no visible difference)

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=672&p=9

Nice graph!! Going to use this for some forums, because I always get the complaint that a e2140 and a 8800gts isn't going to be good. It looks like, by the graphs, that the e2140 and 8800gts is a good budget setup, or even a low end x2 AMD would be good too.
September 5, 2007 8:55:22 AM

Your 4200 is more than adequate for the job. That topic has made a lot of people confused. With the amount of processing power the card's got, you really wouldn't notice the 15fps difference. I really don't see how a person could get their's moneys worth on a $300 card by adding another $100-$400 on a processor upgrade.
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