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Ferriman   09-07-2007 at 12:51:15 PM

Hello,

As the topic says i have Windows Vista and a DirectX 9 graphics card (ATi x1900XT 512mb) I've been searching the web for information directly to this question and i'm finding it hard to come up with an answer so i thought i'd register and post at my favourite information site for reviews and testing on components.

Q: Will i with my current setup be able to play games in DX10 mode or will i be forced to go out and spend ever more money which i'm rather short on being a student, to play DX10 only games?

Thank you,

Ben.

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thuan   09-07-2007 at 01:38:03 PM
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You have to have a DX10 class card (ATI HD series or nvidia 8000 series) to be able to play games in DX10 mode. DX9 runs just fine on Vista though.

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Maziar   09-07-2007 at 01:54:03 PM
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u cant play in DX10 games with a DX9 cards , i some games which has dx10 option , u have to disable them , but in current games, there isnt a lot of differences between DX9 and DX10 in games,

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Rabidpeanut   09-07-2007 at 02:07:03 PM
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DOnt worry dx 10 is not really here yet, and since you are going to buy a new card eventually you will be fine.

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TSIMonster   09-07-2007 at 02:45:18 PM
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ditto on what everyone else said. You have a nice card that should have no trouble with most games.

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fishboi   09-07-2007 at 03:39:53 PM
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There was some SW being developed a while ago that apparently was going to allow DX9 cards to run at DX10 quality. You may want to check into that. I havent bothered with it (last I looked was a year ago), cause DX10 is overrated and a marketing ploy. When I built my PC over a year ago, the forumz had 100s of post pumping up DX10. What a joke. Just another tech that gets marketed to enthusiasts.

BUY A DX10 card when they come down into the $200-$250 range. Thats my advice. (and not a crappy card - top of the line). DX10 will only become mainstream in 12+ months (meaning most games will have it). Dont waste your money.

Im going to upgrade once most games on the market are DX10, not just Crisis and BioShock.

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Ferriman   09-07-2007 at 03:47:14 PM
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Could posting all round especially fishboi, i've read somewhere that it's going to be put in DX9.0L.

As for as the pictures i've seen of faces on the same game comparing 9 to 10 it looks definitely better but of course the whole thing of marketing is selling something that people don't exactly want nor need at the time.

Cheers.

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Maziar   09-07-2007 at 04:55:50 PM
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here is a lost planed DX9 vs DX10 image quality :
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6 [...] ml?cpage=9

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mannwhite   09-07-2007 at 05:39:59 PM
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Maziar wrote :

here is a lost planed DX9 vs DX10 image quality :
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6 [...] ml?cpage=9



I think it would be much fairer to post comparison screenshots of world in conflict in action. I got better benchmarks in dx10 than dx9, not to mention all the god rays etc. that are only available under dx10 make the game much sweeter to look at. It's all a matter of time before dx10 takes over. But to the OP, until that time comes the current card you have will do fine.

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enewmen   09-07-2007 at 05:52:30 PM
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Maziar wrote :

here is a lost planed DX9 vs DX10 image quality :
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6 [...] ml?cpage=9



Lost Planet has some DX10 features, but not native (since it was ported from the Xbox360). You won't notice much difference. Even a more native DX10 game like crysis is missing DX10.1 features.
There is still a long way to go.
Anyway, thanks for the link.

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Dr_asik   09-07-2007 at 08:17:41 PM
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Code :
  1. if OS = "Vista" && GPU.dxsupport = 10
  2. {
  3. Can_play_in_dx10 = true;
  4. }
  5. else
  6. {
  7. Can_play_in_dx10 = false;
  8. Need_to_spend_more_money = true;
  9. }
  11. if student_on_a_budget && Need_to_spend_more_money
  12. {
  13. student.cries();
  14. student.fetalposition();
  15. }

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Message edited by Dr_asik on 09-07-2007 at 08:22:37 PM
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joex444   09-07-2007 at 09:09:31 PM
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Yo code dude...

Code :
  1. if OS == "Vista" && GPU.dxsupport = 9  {
  2. can_play_dx10_game = true;
  3. force_dx9_mode = true;
  4. }

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Dr_asik   09-07-2007 at 09:13:37 PM
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Code :
  1. can_play_dx10_game != can_play_in_dx10

;)


Message edited by Dr_asik on 09-07-2007 at 09:13:55 PM
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jrnyfan   09-07-2007 at 09:47:06 PM
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[funny]

Dr_asik wrote :

Code :
  1. if OS = "Vista" && GPU.dxsupport = 10
  2. {
  3. Can_play_in_dx10 = true;
  4. }
  5. else
  6. {
  7. Can_play_in_dx10 = false;
  8. Need_to_spend_more_money = true;
  9. }
  11. if student_on_a_budget && Need_to_spend_more_money
  12. {
  13. student.cries();
  14. student.fetalposition();
  15. }




[/funny]

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rsetter1   09-07-2007 at 09:53:46 PM
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To answer your question directly, No. You have DX 9
You need :
DirectX 10 operating system (Vista)
DirectX 10 video/graphics card
DirectX 10 Game

Even if you upgraded to a DX10 Graphics Card you would still need a game/games that have DX10 archetecture. That narrows your choices to,????, 2 games at this time? Crysis & Lost Planet?
Additionally these games might be best played using a multi-core processer.

Like enewmen said, "There is still a long way to go.


Message edited by rsetter1 on 09-07-2007 at 09:55:34 PM
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bruce555   09-07-2007 at 11:11:43 PM
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@ rsetter1

Not quite 2 games. For right now you have Lost Planet, World in Conflict, Bioshock, Company of Hero's, and Call of Juarez.

Games coming out before the year is up..
Crysis, Unreal Tournament 3, Hellgate London, COD 4, and Flight Sim X. And there could even be more than this but that's enough big names to keep me occupied until next year.

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rsetter1   09-08-2007 at 12:08:20 AM
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ahhhhh....whats the real deal with DX10.1 not supporting DX10. Is there any truth to that?

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rsetter1   09-08-2007 at 12:09:24 AM
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They aren't done with us yet...

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spuddyt   09-08-2007 at 10:30:41 AM
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dx 10.1 is just an update to dx 10 that will make people buy new gfx cards to use I don't think it will make much difference (since dx 10 itself hasn't yet)

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