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I've heard rumours that NVIDIA are looking at making an 8800 for AGP. Can anyone shed any more light on this?
I currently run a P4 3.0ghz, 512mb Gainward 7800GS+ Golden Sample, 2Gb DDR400, X-Fi, Akasa 550W PSU, this is enough for Bioshock to run maxed out at 1280x1024 at 20-25fps which i'm quite happy with. However this rumour if true would really breath new life into my PC. I can oc my CPU to 3.6Ghz so hopefully this wouldn't be a bottleneck for the GPU although obviously its only a single core.

I would be interested to know everyone elses thoughts?

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This is all I have heard about the Geforce 8000 series comingto AGP. http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20070904PD209.html

Reply to xjustice09x

Thanks xjustice09x, it sounds quite promising. I think there could be a new war in the AGP market.

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Reply to kkkk1

I say overall it would be better to build a new machine. Why spend $300 (assuming that the 8800 AGP will be at this price point if it's released) into a dying slot?

Reply to runswindows95

I can see your point, but unfortunately there is no way I can afford to replace my whole PC as I did 3 years ago. If it means spending about £250.00 to run Bioshock and Crysis maxed out (hopefully) to me it will be money well spent. Boring things like DIY and Cars spoil all the fun.

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Reply to kkkk1

as has been said before, it is physically possible for them to put an 8800 series gpu on an agp 8x interface (due to a bridge or otherwise), but the upper half of its performance would be cut off, due to a bandwidth limitation (its completely saturated and exceeded the available bandwidth that agp has to offer)... similar to pairing it with anything less than a high end C2D in this respect. the bottleneck will be there, but most users wont notice the difference in performance.

so, they very well could, but no telling if they will yet, simply because of the subpar theoretical performance as a result of putting it on agp 8x, may be bad for marketing, but who knows... now if they came out with an agp 16x slot, that would be a different story.


Message edited by choirbass on 09-08-2007 at 01:08:26 AM
Reply to choirbass

From what I heard thus far only 4x AGP has ever been used. A GTS would be nice but a GTX would probably suffer. Who knows, i'll have to wait and see.

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Reply to kkkk1

well, 8x agp = 8x pcie, as far as bandwidth i believe... and 8x pcie was bottlenecking the 8800 series. only when they moved up to pcie 16x was the remaining performance unlocked.

it was an earlier article on THG within the last year or so, so it shouldnt be too hard to find.

the 8800 series was actually the first series of gpus to completely saturate the agp interface, every gpu before that though, from both nvidia and ati were still able to fully perform being on just agp.

edit: found the article http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] index.html


Message edited by choirbass on 09-08-2007 at 01:31:15 AM
Reply to choirbass

It's unlikely to see a 8800GTS/GTX on AGP, however there's a rumor of the upcoming G92 (8700GTS?) coming to AGP, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that either. If you need to breath some new life to your AGP system, your best bet right now is a GeCube X1950XT AGP, that's the best AGP card.

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Reply to emp

The only system you should buy a 8800gts for would be an 4800 x2, with a 939 agp board. As Emp said the x1950xt is the best choice, but the Pro version is even cheaper at the cost of about 7-15% performance hit, but you save yourself about 97 dollars(w/o the 30 dollar rebate on the x1950pro).


Message edited by TenaciousleyDead on 09-08-2007 at 02:57:59 AM
Reply to TenaciousleyDead

emp wrote :

It's unlikely to see a 8800GTS/GTX on AGP, however there's a rumor of the upcoming G92 (8700GTS?) coming to AGP, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that either. If you need to breath some new life to your AGP system, your best bet right now is a GeCube X1950XT AGP, that's the best AGP card.


No way. According to the newegg reviews, it has a lot of problems...well that is if you trust the reviews.

Reply to Evilonigiri

generally people that want life breathed into an agp system should get an x1950 of some kind or another since they are pretty much the best cards on agp

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