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Best Overclock CPU For The Price

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I have been trying to search for current processors and what users have achieved as far as gains. Basically I was wondering what CPU has the best bang for the buck as far as safe overclocking speeds without watercooling or some other over the top cooling system. Building a second setup and wanted to start off on the right foot.

This is my first post and I wanted to get a thread that a lot of people could talk about so I left it pretty open-ended.

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I am by no means an expert but my bet would be the E6750. I am reading more and more about the high OC's with this processor on air. The lower power consumption combined with higher FSB capacity make for a damn fine CPU.

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Reply to crrust

I read about the E6750 and it sounded promising overclocking from 2.66GHz to over 3.2GHz, but I am a little concerned after hearing people have a lot of issues with the processor even barely getting over 3.0GHz.

3.2GHz is already good, but I was hoping to get a little over 3.5GHz though I have a feeling that is pretty much impossible without running a water or chiller cooling system. That's why I was hoping to get some suggestions from this forum.

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Undoubtedly E21 family, personally I'd say E2140 as I have achieved a 3.00GHZ stable OC with it. Thats 100% !!! I've read of people getting it to 3.2GHz but haven't had the nerves to push it that far yet.

 

It goes to 2.67GHz easily with stock cooling, price performance ratio on this baby is just ridiculous.

 

EDIT: I just came across this post. Have a look.

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Message edited by albenza on 11-09-2007 at 10:28:06 PM
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Coincidentally I was just reading the article you just posted. This is like one instance that I am researching and for $89 bucks I can probably afford to test it out myself.

I was actually just reading up this article about the Pentium D 805 from way back that successfully went up from 2.66GHz to beyond 4.0GHz so I assume getting to 3.5GHz would be no problem.

Thanks albenza, 3.2GHz is pretty impressive still with an E2140.

Reply to ricehoshi

Wait are you getting the PD 805..........not a great choice IMO

With the same clock it will not run nearly as fast as the C2D and new E21xx.

I got the E2180

Reply to Silverion77

E2180 can oc very far for a cheap price

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

Not getting anything yet, just trying to get as much information as possible before purchasing anything. If I do get anything other than the E2180 I would probably get flamed huh?

And I was wondering, why would the PD805 not run as fast as the Core 2 Duo or the E21 family of processors? I ask this question knowing if I think about it some more the answer would be pretty clear...

... but I am at work and they don't pay me to think about building my dream computer. :P

Reply to ricehoshi

A extreme single core oc would something like 4.0Ghz. 2 cores that run 1.8 = 3.6 right there. OC to 2.0 = 4.0Ghz right there. and it runs cooler

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

@ itotallybelieveyou

The Pentium D 805 is dual core......

But, anyways......the C2Ds and E21xx run on a different architecture than the Pentium Ds.

At the same clocks the C2Ds and E21xx (also C2D architecture) will run faster than the 805. Sort of how the Penryns will be faster than the C2D at the same clock.

And theres also less power consumption etc.

Reply to Silverion77

But as for the E2180, I have only seen it go up to 3.2GHz safely without other cooling methods. I am kind of sold on the E2180 already, but it feels weird getting that much power for $90.

 

I still got time though and I am still open to more suggestions.


Message edited by ricehoshi on 11-10-2007 at 12:12:02 AM
Reply to ricehoshi

Who cares its $90..........Ive seen so many ppl do it though so it seems consistent and safe

Ive also seen clocks to 3.6 with a thermalright 120 cooler

Reply to Silverion77

Thanks Silverion. The E2180 is at the top of my list if it stays stable at maximum load at 3.6GHz, but I am still open to other alternatives so I have a good range of processors to look at.

If I consistently run it at 3.6GHz though OCing from 2.0GHz I imagine that the life of the processor would die rather quickly... or am I wrong on that to?

Reply to ricehoshi

I'm not really sure (ppl haven't done it long enough to really kno) on the lifespan

I'm overclocking mine......(stock HSF for now)

Other choices are the E4xxx and the regular E6xxx
ppl seem very happy with the E6550 also

Reply to Silverion77
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If you are going to clock the E21's to 3GHz and possibly above I recommend getting a after market cooler of some sort, I personally prefer the Tuniq tower 120, but hey, thats just me :D

 

It's just an expense to keep in mind if you are going for the highest OC - No matter what you should get a decent thermal compound like Arctic Silver 5 or Tuniq TX-2

 

If you decide to go for the tuniq tower 120, thermal compound will be included.


Message edited by albenza on 11-10-2007 at 12:47:26 AM
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For now I'm using stock until I get a little $$$$

I'm not going to go crazy......just the best I can get with a good stress test

Reply to Silverion77

crrust suggested the E6750 which sounded like a better option compared to the E2180 but I imagine it would have to be since it costs twice as much. So the E2180 would probably max at about 3.4GHz safely with an after market cooler excluding water or chilled cooling and the E6750 would max around 3.6GHz safely under the same conditions?

I'll research some more on these two processors, but I assume other people are interested in knowing as well. I'll post again soon when I find a good average people are getting unless someone beats me there first.

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hehe, thats what everybody says until they get addicted. It's like driving a fast car.. just a little more speed...

Anyway, good luck with it and let us know how it turns out.

Reply to albenza

With a good after market cooler on the E2180 can go up as high as 3.7GHz and runs stable at 3.0GHz on air alone. The E6750 I have seen an upper bound of 3.9GHz with a good after market cooler and from what I have read runs stable on air at 3.4GHz.

 

However, I have seen people have a lot of issues with the E6750 in these forums even going up to 3.2GHz... skeptic.

 

And of course... I imagine by the time I choose I will be back asking on suggestions for a motherboard. I'm one of those "have to know everything before I buy" types. :P


Message edited by ricehoshi on 11-10-2007 at 01:05:38 AM
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The E6750 has a 4mb L2 cache where as the E2180 only has 1mb. So the E6750 would always be superior to the E2180, but when it comes to price/performance ratio I doubt the E6750 can beat the E2180. Haven't been lucky enough to have my hands on the E6750 though, I guess it comes down to what you will be needing it for, if it's primarily for gaming and other graphic intensive tasks then the E6750 may very well be the best choice.



Reply to albenza

Photoshop and video editing, but I don't think a 4mb cache is going to make a huge difference. Also, I would gladly shell out more for the E6750 if it overclocked to something much higher than the E2180, but from what I have read both seem to run stable at 3.4GHz and not much higher without experience similar risks. And regardless of what motherboard I get I think this will remain true with both processors.

Reply to ricehoshi

My personal fav is the E4600 actually.

Stock is 2.4 ghz (12 x 200)

I bought a couple sticks of Ballistics PC8500 (DDR1066) run the E4600 at a 1066 FSB brings it to 3.2 ghz, with everything except the CPU at dead stock speeds. If I tweek the voltage just a bit on the memory it will do 4-4-4-12 even at 533/1066 mhz.

I've tried this with three different E4600s... one runs 3.2 at stock voltage, the other two require just and extra .15 or so.. still pretty safe.

I am using a Nasnua cooler, really quiet unit.. no problems.. a really easy overclock.

Reply to the_vorlon

What about the Athlon 5000+ Black?
I know you won't be able to double the clock speed with it, but apparently it'll get to around 3.2 at standard VCore. :)

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I have E4300 running at 3GHZ with a sligh UNDERvoltage. It is perfectly stable and 6 months old now.

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E6750 will easily get to 3.6ghz but the heat will be dramatic without a good HSF. this CPU seems to be running significantly hotter than the E21XX even at the same clock speed.

the E21XX will easily get to 3.2ghz on air (stock cooler). I suggest getting the E2140 ($59) at microcenter.com since it has the same capabilities as the E2160/80.

Reply to Sid3way

actually i just got a q6600 from a friend of mine...

... sold it to me for like $150...

... too tempting.

if i still had to choose though i would probably get the e2180 just to hold me out until prices dropped or something new comes out.

Reply to ricehoshi

ricehoshi wrote :

actually i just got a q6600 from a friend of mine...

... sold it to me for like $150...

... too tempting.

if i still had to choose though i would probably get the e2180 just to hold me out until prices dropped or something new comes out.



Lol nice. I'm thinking of selling my Blood Iron, Memory, and Q6600 for $250 or so to a buddy when I get my X38 and Penryn.

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albenza wrote :

Undoubtedly E21 family, personally I'd say E2140 as I have achieved a 3.00GHZ stable OC with it. Thats 100% !!! I've read of people getting it to 3.2GHz but haven't had the nerves to push it that far yet.

It goes to 2.67GHz easily with stock cooling, price performance ratio on this baby is just ridiculous.

EDIT: I just came across this post. Have a look.



That would be 80%, 100% would be 3.2Ghz (stock is 1.6Ghz) :na:

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I was wondering, is there any difference between overclocking the E2140 vs E2180 (ie. one overclocks better then the other)?

Reply to chuck99

yes.........its minimal but there is one

the 2140 has a 8x multiplier while the 2180 has a 10x (2160 9x)
so at a FSB of 333.......2140= 2.66 2160= 3.0 2180= 3.33

Reply to Silverion77

I have a 2180 with a Tuniq running 3.1 in the 52c-54c range.

Reply to leadfooter

leadfooter wrote :

I have a 2180 with a Tuniq running 3.1 in the 52c-54c range.



I could actually get my 2180 to 3.2, but with stupid Vcore it was 1.53xxV Basicly not good for a cpu I plan to use for years. So I ended up sticked with 3Ghz even, but now I get to run this thing at a much better 1.406V. I did some idle and prime tests. Idle temps are about Core0 22~23C Core1 25~26C. Under prime 95 load it hits 53C after an hour or so. All done with some nice case cooling as well as a CoolerMaster TX-2 ($10 bucks after rebate, not to shabby)

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I absolutely LOVE my e2160. im not much of an OC guy, but there was really nothing to it! i went a little overkill getting a $200 asus board, patrior Viper ram, lol and 4 vantec tornados, that it totally defeated the purpose of a cheep fast computer. but it was totally worth it! i also have a 6750 that i never OCed and its been great to me the way it is.if the e2180 is like my e2160 all i did was set my fsb to 1333 and messed with the memory ratios a bit. i didnt mess with anything else. the one thing i did notice is that the thing didnt really get hot so i took out the tornados (them dam* things are LOUD lol).

i agree with everyone here about the 2180. But beware, this chip will make u want to push everything u got, and it normally isnt this easy. I was told to get the 2160 cause it clocked just as good and was cheaper, but i didnt do a lot of research. i got my 2160 to 3.2 and thats where its at right now, i dont think u can reach a 1600 fsb with this chip but i hope people try

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I'm thinking about getting a E7300 once the price drops to around $119. I want to OC this chip for the fun of it. I've been reading on the E5200 also and it seems like a good deal for around $90. Should I get the E5200 or the E7300?

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e5200 can get to 4.0GHz! 12.5x multi, 45nm, 200fsb stock! AWESOME overclocking potential at the cheap price (@ newegg...) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116072

add a Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro for like $27 and ya good to go!

btw not all people can get to 4.0ghz, some people get good chips and get there easily, some dont get there at all. i'm getting one for my next rig next month and i will update with results!

Reply to V3NOM

the 7200 ive seen has great overclockability. ive read of many many many people with the newer revision getting an overclock to 3.5ghz easily without touching any voltages. thats 1ghz increase in frequency.

Reply to Thorbaden

Don't put up the voltage to high or you will burn out the cpu and then you will have to buy a new one!

Reply to wakkierob
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my e5200 got to 3.5ghz within safe voltage limits set by intel..

Reply to V3NOM

V3NOM wrote :

e5200 can get to 4.0GHz! 12.5x multi, 45nm, 200fsb stock! AWESOME overclocking potential at the cheap price (@ newegg...) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116072

add a Arctic cooling freezer 7 pro for like $27 and ya good to go!

btw not all people can get to 4.0ghz, some people get good chips and get there easily, some dont get there at all. i'm getting one for my next rig next month and i will update with results!




What was the Stepping Code of the one that made it to 4.0GHz do you know?

Thanks,

Plague_spores

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itotallybelieveyou wrote :

A extreme single core oc would something like 4.0Ghz. 2 cores that run 1.8 = 3.6 right there. OC to 2.0 = 4.0Ghz right there. and it runs cooler



no it wouldn't; a 2 core 1.8 wouldn't run a program that requires a 3.6, it could run 2 programs requiring 1.8 though

Reply to Anonymous

By far the best bang for buck is a sandy bridge overclock. 32nm processor sub 200 up to 5ghz no question no comp.

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