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hendersondayton   08-31-2007 at 03:47:25 AM

My Build (not including the case or the peripherals)

GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: GA-P35-DS3R
Item #: N82E16813128050


Update EVGA 640-P2-N821-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Model #: 640-P2-N821-AR
Item #: N82E16814130071


Update Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU ATX 12V 2.0 500W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: W0100RU
Item #: N82E16817153052


Update Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail
Model #: BX80557E6750
Item #: N82E16819115029


(QTY 2) G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ - Retail
Model #: F2-6400CL5S-2GBPQ
Item #: N82E16820231121


Update SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD403LJ 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: HD403LJ
Item #: N82E16822152085


Update LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner included extra White bezel, with 12X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model LH-20A1P-186 - Retail
Model #: LH-20A1P-186
Item #: N82E16827106050

SAMSUNG 906BW Black 19" 2 ms (GTG) DVI 2000:1 Contrast Ratio Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
Model #: 906BW
Item #: N82E16824001094


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ausch30   08-31-2007 at 04:13:24 AM
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hendersondayton wrote :

My Build (not including the case or the peripherals)

 

QTY-2 GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #: GA-P35-DS3R
Item #: N82E16813128050

    



    

Why are you buying 2 motherboards?

 

Everything looks good except for the PSU, the Pure Power series is not very good I would either suggest the Tough Power or another brand. The PSU is also a little underpowered for that setup I would suggest this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703005 or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139002 or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817153034


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zenmaster   08-31-2007 at 04:35:18 AM
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For the Cost Concious - This is a good deal at the moment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371002

Antec True Power Trio TP3-550 ATX12V 550W
Promo Code (EMC828CASE04): -$30.00
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Total Price - $39.99 (After Rebate and Promo)

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aevm   08-31-2007 at 04:37:13 AM
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Maybe a 8800 GTS 320 MB, since the monitor is only 19". Use the savings to upgrade to Q6600.
Absolutely agreed with the PSU changes, I like all 4 suggestions.
A CPU cooler, maybe? If you intend to overclock you need one.


Message edited by aevm on 08-31-2007 at 04:39:45 AM
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hendersondayton   08-31-2007 at 01:55:58 PM
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Sorry, had the QTY 2 on the wrong part! LOL Revised it to the DDR Ram which i am getting two of.

Curious, I have heard a couple people say that with that monitor I do not need the 640 MB card, the 320 will do. Can someone explain to me why that is?

Also, the Q6600 is only a 2.4 GHZ processor. Why would i go down to that rather then the 2.66 ghz in the e6750?

Just trying to get an explanation for your reasoning


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aevm   08-31-2007 at 03:41:55 PM
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The 8800 GTS 640 MB can store twice as many pixels than the 320 MB version. If your monitor has a lot of pixels you need that, if it doesn't you don't. OK, it's not that simple, but that's the idea. You can look at benchmarks, for example here, to get a better idea:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/grap [...] &chart=301

Q6600 has 4 cores at 2.4 GHz each. E6750 has 2 cores at 2.66 GHz each. If you really have enough work to give them to do, the 4 cores in the Q6600 do a lot more work per second than the two cores in the E6750. It depends on what you're doing. Things like compressing a DVD typically work faster on a Q6600. Games are still working a bit better on the E6750, with a few exceptions, but most future games will be smarter and they will work better on Q6600.

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hendersondayton   08-31-2007 at 03:48:21 PM
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Thank you very much for the explanation.

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hendersondayton   08-31-2007 at 04:06:28 PM
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Is there an 8800 GTS 320MB that is overclocked and one that isn't?

(Per that chart you gave me)


Message edited by hendersondayton on 08-31-2007 at 04:07:32 PM
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aevm   08-31-2007 at 04:58:21 PM
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Yes. That explains why in some charts you see the 320 MB doing better than the 640 MB. That's illogical, until you realize the 320 MB version they used in the benchmark was running a bit faster than the 640 MB version. Not exactly fair, but they have to use whatever cards they can get.

I would trust these models, for example:

eVGA, 500 MHz, $270 - this one is not overclocked
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130082

XFX, 580 MHz, $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150173

eVGA, 576 MHz, $300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130038

BFG, 550 MHz, $310
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814143086

I'd say the $280 and $300 cards are the best choices here. If you think you will want to replace this card with a smarter one within 3 months and pay the difference, then go with eVGA, they have a step-up program.
I'd shop around a bit if I were you. You might find the eVGA cheaper at other retailers, for example.

Some people here will probably tell you to save your money and get the $270 card and overclock it yourself. That's also an option. You won't get it to match the XFX factory overclocked card, but it could come close. TBH I wouldn't bother for $10 but others would do it just for fun.

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hendersondayton   08-31-2007 at 05:04:33 PM
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That is in order of price, if $$$ was not an issue, which would u suggest?

All those cards are naturally Overclocked (except the first)?


Message edited by hendersondayton on 08-31-2007 at 05:08:04 PM
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ausch30   08-31-2007 at 05:43:06 PM
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They all have a reference standard and design set by Nvidia so they all should be fairly similar (with the exception of overclock). The biggest reasons for the difference in cost is company name, warranty, and bundle.


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aevm   08-31-2007 at 05:54:50 PM
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Apart from the clocks they're all similar. BFG comes with a T-Shirt, that's about it as far as bundles. I would pick the XFX.

My own card is a BFG 8800 GTX OC2 and it's great, but I can't recommend the BFG product in this case. It costs $30 more, it's a bit slower, and frankly the T-Shirt is not that great on hot days with the big rubber thingy on the back :)

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andybird123   08-31-2007 at 06:23:27 PM
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aevm wrote :

The 8800 GTS 640 MB can store twice as many pixels than the 320 MB version. If your monitor has a lot of pixels you need that, if it doesn't you don't. OK, it's not that simple, but that's the idea. You can look at benchmarks, for example here, to get a better idea:



that's not exactly quite how it works... Graphics memory also has to contain all the textures for a scene/level in a game, frame buffer is usually a relatively small chunk of graphics memory

there are games already out that require more than 320mb to allow the use of the highest texture setting... it's the same as the old 256mb vs 512mb argument

you might get lucky and have all the games you want to play only use a small amount of texture memory, but as I already knew that some games I wanted to play (e.g. GRAW2) require more than 320mb for High, I went with the 640mb

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