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It's been a few years since I built my last PC so I thought I would ask you pros here if there is anything wrong with my selection of components for a $3500 hardcore gaming rig.

A few things I would like to note is that I never overclock my stuff and watercooling scares me :p


Case $199.99 LIAN LI PC-G70B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112105


CPU Fan $59.99 ZALMAN 9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118019


Motherboard $299.99 ASUS Striker Extreme LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX The Ultimate Gaming Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131074


Power Supply $249.99 SILVERSTONE ST1000 ATX12V / EPS12V 1000W Power Supply 100 - 240 V RoHS, CE, FCC http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817256020


CPU $312.99 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115028


Memory $359.00 CORSAIR XMS2 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145176


GPU #1 $622.99 EVGA 768-P2-N881-AR GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130090


GPU #2 $622.99 EVGA 768-P2-N881-AR GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130090


Raid 0 HD #1 $199.99 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136011


Raid 0 HD #2 $199.99 Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136011


Storage HD $199.99 Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD7500AAKS 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136131


CD/DVD $24.99 LITE-ON Black 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM 1.5MB Cache SATA Combo Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827106040


Case Fan #1 $11.99 Antec 75003 120mm Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835129030


Case Fan #2 $11.99 Antec 75003 120mm Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835129030


Case Fan #3 $11.99 Antec 75003 120mm Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835129030


Total $3,388.86

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Go with Q6600 instead of e6850 other then that i wish i had the money you have

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

na, keep the e6850, will be better for games, as no real games use 4 cores. plus you can overclock the e6850 past 4ghz, with a good cooler. the only way you should get the q6600 is if you like to video edit, and that kinda stuff

Reply to sharp910sh

in 4 months the releases will use all cores then the q6600 will better so i'd say q6600!!!! go with gtx sli man

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

Just saved $50 dollars on the ram.

Reply to paq7512

Quad core is the way of the future, it'd be stupid to spend that much on a machine, and be stuck with past technology. You can overclock the quad core to give it more performance, but you can't add cores to a dual core. No recent game will be limited by the quad core anyway, I guarantee that, and in the future. when games do start to stress what you have, the extra cores will save you, because they will be supported by the games by that point. The Q6600 has much more raw power than the e6850.

What is the max resolution of your monitor?

As far as that case, I think it is WAY overpriced. As far as looks go, it looks more like a case I'd pay $50 for than $220, and as far as functionality, it looks good on the inside, but not $220 good :ouch:


Message edited by jt001 on 08-30-2007 at 01:03:18 AM
Reply to jt001

I always play games at 1600 x 1200 resolution

If I decide to go quad core should i go with the Q6700 over the Q6600?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115027

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Message edited by zoomyx on 08-30-2007 at 01:21:29 AM
Reply to zoomyx

you might want to go with this case it has two power supplies to split the load. it also has plenty of cooling so you won't need the extra fans. this case comes with brackets that can help support large graphics cards like the gtx and ultra.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129028

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Message edited by Slippers on 08-30-2007 at 01:46:58 AM
Reply to Slippers

I was going to do the Ultra's as well, but the performace increase from a 8800 GTX superclocked EVGA to that is not worth the money. I spent it on the q67oo Quad Intel instead and went with the P5n32-e Sli Asus board as this great article explained you are getting no performance gains between the two - only difference is some piping and LED readout which you wont need.

So dropping to Superclocked EVGA 8800 GTX cards and to the P5N32-E SLI 680i board you will save about $3-400 and put that towards better processor. You can check my hardware stats for details.

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Reply to GenericName

After looking into the GTX cards more I think I will go with these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130079
over the ultras I had choosen, they are a few buck cheaper and the core clock looks to be a bit faster (looks like less power needs as well)

I think I will also switch out the power supply with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703009
people are telling me its just better quality power

Reply to zoomyx

I would say pass on a Q6700.

It's the same as a Q6600 with G0 Stepping, just has an extra 200Mhz at a cost of $200 more. Doesn't seem worth it as you can just over-clock the Q6600.


Message edited by Seraphic on 08-30-2007 at 02:25:15 AM
Reply to Seraphic

zoomyx wrote :

I always play games at 1600 x 1200 resolution

If I decide to go quad core should i go with the Q6700 over the Q6600?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115027



woah woah... There is NO way you need 2x 8800 ultras for 1600x1200. you got the money good for you but i'm seriously suggesting not to go with the 2 ultras. and no q6700 as soon as you get your computer with one restart you could oc it to 2.66ghz

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

Yeah, it's just not worth the extra $ for the Q6700.

Don't me to change the topic here, but what video card would you need for 1920x1200? (video/image creation/editing - some gaming)

Reply to Seraphic

Agreeance with genericname...

OC GTX would be a better choice (after all thats what the ultras are)

The Asus P5N32-E SLI 680i is the same as a striker minus some copper and lcds.. this would be the better choice.

Dont do the P190 ive heard there are all sorts of issues with them and apparently the psu split does work well (the 650W runs the GPU's and motherboard while the 550 does only hard drive etc.) Go with your original case choice.

Everyone seems to have missed that you said

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A few things I would like to note is that I never overclock my stuff and watercooling scares me



If this is true and you have the money get the Q6700 cause its always going to be quicker than the Q6600 without OCing

Good Luck man wish i had that kinda money

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Reply to chookman

I like to build a top end Pc and use it for 2 years, you dont think dual GPU's will become useful in the next 2 years even if I only play at 1600 x 1200?

Reply to zoomyx

Zipzoom has the Raptor for $189. The Striker is one scary board. I respect Asus, but they are getting slammed with this mobo. 50% of the buyers (newegg) are sorry they bought the eye candy and the other 50 are saying this not a board for the timid. Wait till the acceptence level climbs to at least 80%.

Reply to cptmac

The Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM has longer life time the X raptor.

Also the raid setup is software fake raid.

And there cheaper and bigger hd's that you can get.

Reply to Joe_The_Dragon

Can I connect a standard floppy drive to a ASUS Striker Extreme Motherboard?

Dont ask, im just oldschool like that and i need my floppy drive :P

Reply to zoomyx

Here's a question- why would you get the Q6600 and not get DDR3? Sure it's a lil more expensive, but that doesn't seem like such a big concern for this particular build..

I'll be building a similar rig soon.. going through the same questions- here's one- why bother getting SLI 8800s when Vista can't do SLI yet? You'd probably want Vista, what with looking towards the future.. So get one now, and when vista supports SLI, pick up the mate- no?
-R92

Reply to Roenick92

Slippers wrote :

you might want to go with this case it has two power supplies to split the load. it also has plenty of cooling so you won't need the extra fans. this case comes with brackets that can help support large graphics cards like the gtx and ultra.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129028



I wouldn't get the P190. You'll end up with two Ultras on a 550W PSU and a 650 PSU sitting mostly idle. Also, Lian-Li cases are the best. Your original case/PSU is a better idea.

Reply to aevm

you can get better than 90% of that performance for half the price. RAID, Raptors, dual GTX's, 1000 watts, Striker are a waste

build yourself a really sweet system for half your budget and do something good with the rest of the money like give it to charity or buy 3 computers to donate to a good cause

Reply to nhobo

zoomyx wrote :

After looking into the GTX cards more I think I will go with these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130079
over the ultras I had choosen, they are a few buck cheaper and the core clock looks to be a bit faster (looks like less power needs as well)

I think I will also switch out the power supply with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817703009
people are telling me its just better quality power



Yes, the PC P&C Silencer is a fantastic PSU. That's the one I got for myself after months of research.

DDR2-800 is perfect for 2007 & no overclocking. DDR3 will be a great option in 2009, not now.

You don't need two video cards for 1600x1200. Get a GA-P35-DS3R motherboard and a factory overclocked card (eVGA 8800 GTX KO ACS3 or BFG 8800 GTX OC2).

About the CPU: Q6600 is the best choice by far. #2 would be QX6850 if you have the cash AND don't want to overclock AND you really need more power than a Q6600. If you play Flight Simulator a lot it's worth it, otherwise probably not.

Reply to aevm

Yes, you can run el floppy with the striker. Have you considered the Antec 850watt Quattro? It has sleaved cablels and a really kool racing stripe.

Reply to cptmac

cptmac wrote :

and a really kool racing stripe.



OMG, I'd better sell my PSU and get one with a really kool racing stripe, what was I thinking??? :lol: :lol:

Reply to aevm

think 1968 ford mustang gt, 1941 P 51 black and white strips on the wings, man it is a tradition !! We owe it to our children. A power supply has to have racing strips. Let me buy you a beer, see you in church.

Reply to cptmac

on the gpu....get 1 ONE evga gtx and in a couple of months do the step-up program and get the new g92 when it comes out.( 1 g92 rapes 2 8800gtx ultra). get the q6600 and it seems you have the cash.. why not try out phase cooling. im sure you'll hit 4ghz @ -45c with a good phase cooling system. no need for a million fans. i think your wasting your money with the raptors, instead i would buy a 24" or even a 27" from dell.

Reply to javimars

I already ordered 6 x 20 inch monitors for this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2465

My new PC will use two monitors and the other 4 screens will be for 4 of my old PC's

I like to multibox games

Reply to zoomyx

My 2 cents:

1) Like everyone has said, drop the Ultras and just go with an OC GTX like EVGA.

2) For $5 more, you can get a Lite-on DVD-RW

3) For $300, I would go with the Q6600. Besides, with that mobo and CPU fan, you could easily make it run at 3Ghz without a lot of work.

Reply to runswindows95

zoomyx wrote :

I like to build a top end Pc and use it for 2 years, you dont think dual GPU's will become useful in the next 2 years even if I only play at 1600 x 1200?


Zoomyx my man... Think of this 9800 GTX out by lastest Jan. It cant possibly be more then $700 save up your money now and get it. If you get 2x 8800 Ultras right now you are LITERALLY wasting burning money. only $100 extra. And it'll be 2x powerful then GTX/Ultra or that's what THEY say.

Reply to itotallybelieveyou

You wont need a floppy drive anymore - all BIOS can be updated with a USB or CD now so it's ancient waste of space. If you get into Windows then you can update with the Asus utility and won't even need the CD or USB option.

As far as the future goes there is always something better coming out and if you wait for that you might as well wait until you die.

"I'll be building a similar rig soon.. going through the same questions- here's one- why bother getting SLI 8800s when Vista can't do SLI yet? You'd probably want Vista, what with looking towards the future.. So get one now, and when vista supports SLI, pick up the mate- no? "

I'm running SLI in Vista 64 bit right now - it even says I have 1536 (768*2) Vid Ram - Company of Heroes runs great with everything cranked to Max settings


Message edited by GenericName on 08-30-2007 at 03:39:31 PM
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