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August 30, 2007 3:17:50 AM

hi, im considering building a new gaming pc for myself. Im only 15 thou so i dont possess to much knowledge on computer stuff even thou i know more than the average person. I was looking around new egg and came up with these componets, my budget(parents budget really) is $1300-1500 including monitor, keyboard etc. and wont be upgrading anything in like at least 8 months if lucky. So heres my build, not perfect yet for its over my budget it seems so needs some tweaking anyways, and ill also appreaicate any tips/steps/guides/info on how to build a comp for begninners etc. , so enough talking heres my stuff (EDITING)


CPU:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115028

Motherboard: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813141002

Case:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811156180

PSU:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817190012

GPU:http: www.newegg.com/product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814150227

Hard drive:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822136073

Monitor:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16824005096

Optical drives x2: http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827151153

Memory x2(4gb total): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

lol floppy:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16821103203

Card reader:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820223073

Keyboard+mouse:http: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16823126174

Crappy speakers but cheap ,o well: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16836131013


Subtotal:$1,584.85 excluding taxes and $40 shipping REBATES:$140 im pretty sure, cant check my other window for the newegg page froze up, this comp im using can even handle 2 windows up at once it seems, so the minium i need to get it down to is at least like $1500, so it needs some tweaking, but otherwise, what do you think? DO you also think i can build this comp on my own? Thanks in advance for your help


EDITING______________> THE NEWLY REVISDED LIST IS DOWN BELOW
August 30, 2007 3:34:56 AM

The link will not work, copy and paste your cart to txt so people can see it :D 
August 30, 2007 3:46:22 AM

yea im trying this comp im using is sooo slow and laggy it is very hard and i knew the link wouldnt work lol just trying to buy some time
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August 30, 2007 3:51:19 AM

my internet keeps cutting off, sorry trying my best
August 30, 2007 4:26:41 AM

k i put the stuff up now, hope the links work
August 30, 2007 4:54:14 AM

dam laggy computer only shows half your post for like 5 mins lol okie ill check those out

EDIT: if i would get that GPU it would add more total money over my budget so i need things that would cost around the same price or a entirely new build from scratch with the $1300-1500 budget
August 30, 2007 5:05:39 AM

With the parts that i added, including this monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You could save 125 dollars; but then add 90 dollars. And get a way better video card, and i think better parts. So you could save 35 dollars from the previous build that you mentioned but get way better parts.
August 30, 2007 5:43:23 AM

get the 8800 gts...but why not get the 640, it is more cash but much more versatile with the larger resolution.

For an e6850 you might regret the 8600 GPU and possibly the 320 GTS...so pay a few bucks extra and get the 640.

Do you NEED 4 GB of ram? the diff will pay for the GPU upgrade (mostly).
August 30, 2007 6:10:10 AM

I still have not a clue why everyone says that. The 640 only beats the 320 on resolutions higher then 1900x1200 by even a small margin. Gaming with a screen that does 1600+by say 1200 or 1050 the 640 version will only be games by a handful of fps. Meaning that the extra 100 dollars is not worth the purchase. Also that 8800gts that I picked out is even the overclocked version.
August 31, 2007 1:01:21 AM

hmm i dont like the case much , its kinda dull, but any reason to why you chose these? Is there problems with the XFX 680i motherboard i should know about? Okie with the memory, psu i guess, dont like the case much as i said(yea im picky lol , wanted something that looked cool like with blue lights and clear side panel etc.)The Vid card too is nice. I liked the motherboard since i like the XFX company for some reason , i just would like to know the faults of my picks and the better benefits from those that you picked. Also not sure sure if i said this but are those stuff easier to install since this will be my first build? Sorry bout all the questions its just that i dont want to mess up this build for itll be my only one for a long long time.
August 31, 2007 11:45:59 AM

HYPHY said:
hmm i dont like the case much , its kinda dull, but any reason to why you chose these? Is there problems with the XFX 680i motherboard i should know about? Okie with the memory, psu i guess, dont like the case much as i said(yea im picky lol , wanted something that looked cool like with blue lights and clear side panel etc.)The Vid card too is nice. I liked the motherboard since i like the XFX company for some reason , i just would like to know the faults of my picks and the better benefits from those that you picked. Also not sure sure if i said this but are those stuff easier to install since this will be my first build? Sorry bout all the questions its just that i dont want to mess up this build for itll be my only one for a long long time.


Regardless of what you finally get, everything installs the same way, i.e., one isn't easier to install than another. The one thing to make sure of is that the mobo will take the GPU, i.e., that nothing will block a physically bigger GPU. Also keep in mind that you can always upgrade later, .e.g, you can always put a more powerful PSU in the case you originally chose, upgrade the video card, or CPU. This is the advantage of building
August 31, 2007 12:40:02 PM

You can save money by getting the right parts.

E6850 to E6750, you just saved $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029&Tpk=E6750

Mobo: GA-P35-DS3R you just saved $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=gigabyte+ga-p35-ds3r&x=14&y=29

You just saved $150 that you could put into your GPU. You just have to know where to trim the fat. "You will not notice the difference between the E6850 and the E6750." I had to drop my overclock of E6600 @3.7GHz because my PC case is horrible at cooling my components and can not resume my OC until I get a better case.
September 1, 2007 1:46:12 AM

looks nice but to bad that motherboard only has one PCIx16 slot so i cant SLi in the future once my card will become old(talking bout in like 4 or 5 years from now) anyways, im kinda rethinking building this comp, im not 100 percent sure i can pull it off, im one of those people that if i turn it on after ive built it and it doesnt work, i would get very mad , try to fix it and fail(never happened with building a comp cuz i never built a comp but got mad after i ruined my wireless router after playing with it{not physically} and just leave it and regret buying all those parts and not just buying one from a retail store. So ima see if i still feel the same way about this in the next 1-2 days and try to rethink if i can do it or not,i know it looks kinda easy but everything seems to wrong in my life when i want it to go right so much ,thats one reason i feel like that, ill be looking at more guides to try to figure it all out and stuff
September 1, 2007 2:50:40 AM

HYPHY said:
looks nice but to bad that motherboard only has one PCIx16 slot so i cant SLi in the future once my card will become old(talking bout in like 4 or 5 years from now)


Thanks! That's the best laugh I got this week :lol:  :lol: 

Seriously now, SLI 5 years from now with two of today's cards? That's like me putting two GeForceMX 4000 in SLI today... All games would still refuse to install because the MX doesn't have Shader Model 3. If one does install, it will still not work well because 1 MX gives 0.02 fps and 2 MX in SLI gives 0.03 fps. Come on, in 5 years you'll be able to buy a $100 card that will do better than two 8800 Ultra cards together, and it will have DirectX 14 or whatever those games will need.
September 1, 2007 3:01:32 AM

didnt mean the 8800, anyways im still playing around in newegg getting the total plus tax and shipping and after rebates to come down to $1500
September 1, 2007 3:24:05 AM

okie i think i got it now, perfectly $1500, but culnt add in the XMS memory but wuts the diff from Patriot eXtreme, i heard that diff brands are good for OC'ing but i dont know how so i dont need to, changed the mobo and gpu, same case , monitor and everything else execpt the cpu and mobo


CPU:Intel core 2 duo E6750, www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115029

Mobo: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131142

so these 2 plus just about everything in the first post is exaclty everything i would buy to build this comp thou i heard you have to buy the OS system, but my friends uncles friend lol just uses this cd to install windows in his old comps and it doesnt look offical or anything, wondering if that would work or something, cuz it seems that XP or vista is like $120 more dollars
September 1, 2007 3:38:33 AM

Ummm, your "friends uncles friend" will get in trouble if Microsoft catches him. Also, he doesn't get upgrades and patches and he's exposed to higher risk of malware. You know, the sort of crap that captures bank account numbers and passwords for example. I'd pay the $120 even if it's just for that.

The Patriot OC's well.


So what have you got now? (Text please, too lazy to follow 15 links on dial-up)

September 1, 2007 6:03:26 AM

Get this mobo instead : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's relatively future proofed.

If you want a "Flashy" case instead of a dull one, look at this one :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 8600 series is a joke. In most cases they are slower than 7 series cards, because their memory interface is only 128bit. It is a lot more beneficial to get at least an 8800gts.

Do you really NEED 500gb? You can save at least 25$ with going with this Seagate model :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

You don't need 4gb of ram. I can't believe you want that much ram and yet don't want to get a better video card. 4gb of ram will only be 3.5gb in regular XP anyways. Drop it to 2gb, and you save yourself 110$ to put into something else.

I don't recommend a card reader either. You can save even more money in the long run without one. Most devices with cards in them come with USB hookups, and more than likely you have a USB cord laying around.

Finally, for the CPU. You're joking right? I see no reason to spend 300$ on a dual core. For 10$ less you can get a quad core and be happy for a long time. If you want to save even more money then just get a 2.13ghz E6420 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It may help you to reexamine how you are looking for parts. It's a lot better to have a well rounded system than to spend a ton on a couple parts then go skimpy on others. As it is now, your machine really isn't that great for gaming. I just built a system for 1100$ (check my hardware spec sheet) and if you need a monitor/optical drives you will spend at max 1400$...and still have a better system than what you picked out.

Sorry if I sounded mean, but hopefully you will learn a little bit.

EDIT: And if you don't have your own OS already, you should find some way to get your own. Taking someone elses really isn't ideal and is a good way to run into trouble somewhere down the line. Buying an OS is a good investment. It doesn't seem like it at the time because 120$ is a lot...but I've been using my copy of XP for over four years now so it really is worth it.
September 1, 2007 6:24:08 AM

HYPHY said:
looks nice but to bad that motherboard only has one PCIx16 slot so i cant SLi in the future.


Let me share something with you about SLI, if you were to get an 8800GTX now and later (1-2 years) get another 8800GTX by that time anything you buy 1-2 years from now one next gen card can be upto 2-3 times faster than both of your cards in SLI. There is suposed to be a new card from Nvidia this November thats claimed to be 2.5-3 times faster the one 8800GTX.

I have had lots of friends say that they will go SLI (add a second card) in 6-8 months from now, but you know what not one ever did because something new and better came out. Future proof, theres no such thing. The 8800 series has only been out little more than half a year now and hear comes Nvidia with newer cards. People that should go SLI are the guys that like playing games at 1900x1200 and get both cards at the same time. I will never go SLI and its not that I can't afford it its that I don't believe people should have to buy two cards to play a games whatever the resolution. With one 8800GTX you should be able to play most games at 1900x1200. Hope this helps you.
September 1, 2007 6:41:06 AM

systemlord said:
Let me share something with you about SLI, if you were to get an 8800GTX now and later (1-2 years) get another 8800GTX by that time anything you buy 1-2 years from now one next gen card can be upto 2-3 times faster than both of your cards in SLI. There is suposed to be a new card from Nvidia this November thats claimed to be 2.5-3 times faster the one 8800GTX.
I have had lots of friends say that they will go SLI (add a second card) in 6-8 months from now, but you know what not one ever did because something new and better came out. Future proof, theres no such thing. The 8800 series has only been out little more than half a year now and hear comes Nvidia with newer cards. People that should go SLI are the guys that like playing games at 1900x1200 and get both cards at the same time. I will never go SLI and its not that I can't afford it its that I don't believe people should have to buy two cards to play a games whatever the resolution. With one 8800GTX you should be able to play most games at 1900x1200. Hope this helps you.


Link please.
September 1, 2007 10:15:42 AM



You've been around long enough to know what I mean. How about a link to a credible source with actual benchmarks? Otherwise all you are doing is spreading dis-information. (er, FUD)

I have not been able to find a credible source, and my 6800 ultras are getting old and tired. So I am looking. Rumour has it that whatever Nvidia releases next will be a mid-range GPU. But that's just rumour.









September 1, 2007 5:16:15 PM

O yea above when i chose a new cpu/mobo (the new cpu i chose this round, the e6750 is $200)i forget to say i included the XFX 8800 gts 320 not 8600, but now i gota try to get that all down to $1500 including OS system, im guessing you all would reccomend Windows XP since vista aint stable yet right? Ill try and add what you guys are adding and repost everything again, also just wondering why is everyone suggesting a differnt case, isnt a case just a case right? Just for looks plus the cooling inside? Sorry im new to building a comp as you all know so i dont know if theres another reason.
September 1, 2007 8:18:38 PM

HYPHY said:
O yea above when i chose a new cpu/mobo (the new cpu i chose this round, the e6750 is $200)i forget to say i included the XFX 8800 gts 320 not 8600, but now i gota try to get that all down to $1500 including OS system, im guessing you all would reccomend Windows XP since vista aint stable yet right? Ill try and add what you guys are adding and repost everything again, also just wondering why is everyone suggesting a differnt case, isnt a case just a case right? Just for looks plus the cooling inside? Sorry im new to building a comp as you all know so i dont know if theres another reason.


You're right about cooling when it comes to a case and looks are really a personal thing. But other factors are important for a case, how well it's constructed and how easy it is to work with. A good case can last you for years so you don't want one that is made out of paper thin steel that will easily buckle, bend, or break. Weight can also be an issue if you go to Lan parties or getting older and don't want to muscle heavy cases. Some cases are quieter than others, .e.g., one with 120mm exhaust fan will both cool better and be quieter. I have Antec Sonata cases and the hdd cage faces out, which makes it incredibly easy to install and remove hdd. One of my granddaughters wanted a new case for her b'day a few years ago and picked one that lit up like the Los Vegas strip, which was OK because it was in the home office but would have probably gotten old fast in a bedroom if you want to keep it on all the time or sharing a bedroom. Also what's really cool today can get old in the not too distant future. So like everything else there is a lot to consider when buying a case.
September 1, 2007 8:34:32 PM

so the raidmax case i chose isnt a good choice then?
September 1, 2007 9:08:32 PM

some people are telling me to get a computer from ibuypower.com and cyberpowerpc.com, they say you get to, chose all the stuff that goes in it with good brand stuff and they do the work of putting it together and making sure it works, is that a good idea? I heard somewhere that they suck for some reason or are a bad company or something, any info on them?
September 1, 2007 9:11:50 PM

HYPHY said:
so the raidmax case i chose isnt a good choice then?


Didn't mean to suggest that, in fact, RAIDMAX makes good cases. A bit gaudy for my taste but I'm an old guy :)  but I would guess most of my grandkids and their friends would be impressed with it.
September 1, 2007 9:57:35 PM

ah ok, anyone got info on ibuypower and cyberpowerpc? they good, bad,or what, sorry guys for all these posts
September 1, 2007 10:16:35 PM

lol...I'm roughly your age...you're like one of the only few that's around my age on the forumz XX

Cyberpower/Ibuypower are lottery buys - sometimes you get a good one, sometime....eh...

I live close by them (iin LA), so I can pickup/check for quality if I acually ordered one..don't know about you...I wouldn't want to have a dead e6850 in the middle of kansas...(no offense to any midwest states!)

BTW, I have a P180B rev1.1...the modern, minimalistic look is for me!
September 1, 2007 11:59:32 PM

One option would be to buy a bundle (mobo, cpu, and RAM) from here and then install it in the case or buy the case and have them install it. Not as cheap as building but better than buying off the shelf. This is what I did prior to my first complete build. A way to sneak up on building :) 
http://www.jncs.com/

DeusEx, good we can add some "maturity" although my wife would disputer that :) 
September 2, 2007 12:32:09 AM

I live in north cali,near frisco and oakland so im no where near ibuypower/cyberpowerpc in LA and gpaw what do u mean buy buy a bundle and have them(who?) install it, install it as mean i buy all the parts and give it to(who?). atm im reading the asus mobo guide and looks pretty doable but sometimes they put stuff in their since its a manual that are extra and i dont need to do(i think) since im a beginner

and deusEx, its nice to see some1 near my age lol, (no offense to thers lol) just cuz im usually the youngest one on all forums im on lol, like on this other forum were everyone was at least 40-60(nutin wrong with that lol but being the only 15 yr old made it obvious when i cant buy stuff with a credit card on my own lol)

will be posting a redo of all my specs of stuff, and btw is this a good motherboard, seems to have everything i want and under $130

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


this one too looks nice , $150 after rebates: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681318801...

September 2, 2007 12:49:32 AM

o you mean thast jncs thing,na if they dont assemble whole thing,id rather it the whole thing myself, the biggest problem i would have is that newegg would ship a faulty part which i wouldnt know , i assemble the comp, TRY to install the OS and BIOS or whatever and dont know how to install/config the BIOS anyways, then it wont work and i dont know wut part is faulty and then i would have to look back and .... etc.
September 2, 2007 12:52:35 AM

At JNCS you buy a mobo, CPU, and RAM and they'll install the CPU and RAM and test it, don't know what testing consists of, and then you just have to install the mobo into the case and install everything else. If you a buy a case from them, they'll install the mobo in the case. While their prices aren't outrageous, definitely higher than a place like newegg. When I bought the bundle I had replaced everything in a computer including the PSU but had never put in a mobo and CPU and that's what had me scared. After thinking about figured installing the CPU couldn't be that hard, had to install the bundle in the case and knew I could do that, so I did my first build. Understand you're concerns, building the first time is scary especially when you don't have anyone around that had done it before, which was my case. At some point you either need to say to he!! with it and o it for find an alternative. The longer you procrastinate the crazier it makes you
September 2, 2007 1:16:20 AM

Like others, I would change alot about this build.

1) You are wasting money on the case. The PSU in the case means you are paying for a PSU to throw away. You can bet a better case than that.

2) The PSU you selected is not good. Look at the Corsair 520w or others.

3) The GPU is a waste of Money. The E6750 will easily clock to the same speeds as the E6850. The Q6600 is not a bad deal either, but there is no point to an E6850.

4) The GPU is not a good deal. Spend just a little more to get the 8800GTS. Simply cut out 1 of the DVD players for most of that.
You can always buy another at a future date.

5) No need for 4gb. It's fine so long as you don't have to get the cheap GPU and PSU to get to 4gb.

6) Way too much for the Mobo. I would go for just about any of the Asus Mobos. I've read they will support the PCI-E 2 which is nice for future GPUs. The Gigabytes linked by others for much less money are also very nice.
September 2, 2007 1:41:49 AM

Click the link in my Signature and all your questions will be answered....
well maybe not all of them...lol
September 2, 2007 3:22:22 AM

okie here it goes, the newly revised list, i dropped some RAM, yea the case is still expensive but hey youl only have one case since youll be upgrading everything inside not out,dropped the DVD burners, beefed up the GPu, lowered the CPU , ahh ull see , the only thing im not 100 sure bout is the PSU i chose, the case i chose also has like 4 fans in it to if i need the cooling k heres the list

CPU: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16819115029

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Case(yes flashy and prolly too much for a case but hey, it looks cool): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Hard Drive: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822148140

Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Optical drives x2: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16827101131

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...

RAM(2gb): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

Speakers: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Keyboard/mouse combo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

OS Windows XP(home): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1683...

Floppy!!!!?!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1682...

wow almost forgot the Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681...


Subtotal:$1,439.86
+
Shipping:$59.62
+
Tax(dam i live in Cali):$104.39

Total:$1,603.87 REBATES:$85______________>> REAL TOTAL:$1,518.87 just around my $1500 budget including the OS this time

and thanks for the link mad dog

If this list sucks(prolly does but...) then can someone post up the wholelist of items i should get then but i think this list is good(revised 3 times) and thanks for all the tips and suggestions(do i have to buy a PC building kit or something for all i have is a screwdriver but i dont have a ESD strap thing/mat or a anti static bag/mat etc. and no non magentic screw retrevier)

Also is everything compatible with each other and will everything fit inside the case smoothly and am i missing anything (like cables for a HD or optical drive or something cuz i wouldnt know and it would delay me building the comp once the parts come and that would get me mad lol)
September 2, 2007 3:43:35 AM

You could get an Antec P180b ($30 more) and a GA-P35-DS3L ($35 less) and you get to save $5 and get better stuff. Forget the floppy.
Apart from that it looks nice.

September 2, 2007 4:15:43 AM

Hey, been following along here and started my input, but you are already getting some really good suggestions that I agree with. Your last list looks right on the spot to me, that will make you a really nice system. But why do you need 2 DVD drives (especially both ROM)? Just get 1 DVD burner and be done with it!
September 2, 2007 4:35:31 AM

OOPS DOUBLE POST BUT YAY 2 PAGES LOL
September 2, 2007 4:44:44 AM

hmm the Antecs features are nice but to confusing for people who have exp. building comps before so i dont have any exp or know anyone who does so itll prolly confuse me alot too plus its a lil boring looking but its supposdably ultra quiet and durable but i wont ever move my machine anywhere so durabitly on mobiltiy isnt too much a issue at all for me so i guess ill just keep my cool looking(prolly loud thou with 4 fans) case and mobo

and to jit, i got 2 so i can easily burn stuff from one cd to the other at the same time without uploading the stuff on 1 cd to the comp then upload it to the new cd, i also had to drop my 52 in 1 card reader thou, but i can easily skip the floppy drive for i dont think i would need it and get the memory card reader(need it for my psp since i dont have a usb link cable for a psp i use my comps built in memory card reader but i think i do have a usb adapter

And i need to make sure this is everything i will need, like im not missing and cables/wires etc. for this is EXACTLY what im buying and going to build(unless i revise a 4th time lol) i dont want to be missing any IDE cables or wutevr. and thanks all for those fast replys and help, i really appreaicate it, otherwise id be no where lol
September 2, 2007 5:29:31 AM

Pretty good setup now. I would switch the PSU to a solid Antec NeoHe or the likes, and also, 240$ for a 20"monitor is way too much. You can get an Acer (little-to-nil picture quality if you don't do Heavy pic editing/gaming) for 50$ or less there....

The P180B is a great case, but if you aren't going to OC, and your room isn't too hot (SoCal ughhh..I love my AC) just stick with the lexa..its a good case too. However, if you want a beginner's case, for someone who has never done any building, the Cooler Master Centurion series is the best contender.
September 2, 2007 6:22:45 AM

jitpublisher said:
Hey, been following along here and started my input, but you are already getting some really good suggestions that I agree with. Your last list looks right on the spot to me, that will make you a really nice system. But why do you need 2 DVD drives (especially both ROM)? Just get 1 DVD burner and be done with it!


I totally agree the system you have here after three times finely looks awesome. You have a go for liftoff.
September 2, 2007 11:19:33 AM

i see speakers but no sound card
get 2.1 speakers they last forever unlike most pc parts so u dont need to upgrade them.
September 2, 2007 1:35:53 PM

Suggest $12 more for a DVD burner, something like this. Agree with jitpublisher, you really don't need two optical drives. You will want a burner and sooner or later you'll want a DVD burner.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151153

I think you should keep the Floppy, it's $8 and when you need, and you likely will someday, you'll have it. Agree with those saying you're better off with a P35 board, which gives you a better upgrade path. This ASUS has onboard firewire if you need it and is only $10. If you don't need the onboard firewire, you could save about $30 with either the Gigabyte or ASUS. About the only reason I can see for getting onboard firewire is if you have or are going to get a digital camcorder, which I have so the onboard firewire is important for me. I know this mobo has SLI but it's really tough to find anything other than an Intel board with firewire without SLI. Intel makes good stable boards but not particular good for overclocking and generally fewer BIOS options.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131180

As for the case, as long as it's not junk and the one you picked isn't, it's very personal. It's like a girlfriend or boyfriend, as long as you think they are attractive and worth the cost and can afford them, that's really all that matters. Your choices don't suck and I don't think anyone is trashing it, people are just giving the opinions. When all is said and done, it's your money and what you chose is basically a very solid system. I think you/ve learned a lot over the last several days

For some reason I can't see this post to edit it so this may be a duplicate and I apologize. Would suggest this set of speakers, they have a separate sub and for the price sound is decent, got them for my wife's machine and had to use them one night.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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