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Hi

Got a new pc Dell9200, 8800GTX, Intel Quad 2.4, 4GB ram (3 seen by vista).

3dmark06 of 11,112

Q: Is this acceptable/ok/good??

I have noone else to ask - and im lonely, kidding, hehe:)

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Hi i dont have the card myself but have seen benchmarks posted as low as 9000 and as high as 1300 so your somewhere in the middle.
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Reply to mactronix

Yeah thats good. Overclock your processor to 3GHz and you should hit 12000 i'd think.

Reply to masteryoda34

Yea that is a pretty good score. The reason Vista only sees 3 gig of your 4gig is because you are running a 32bit Version of Vista. If you want all of your memory to be recognized install a 64bit version of Vista.

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Reply to fate0n3

bish-ireland wrote :

Hi

Got a new pc Dell9200, 8800GTX, Intel Quad 2.4, 4GB ram (3 seen by vista).

3dmark06 of 11,112

Q: Is this acceptable/ok/good??

I have noone else to ask - and im lonely, kidding, hehe:)


Which driver for the 8800? If your using the Dell driver it's from 6/28/07.

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Reply to kpo6969

I bet he paid somewhere in the ball park of $6000 for that system. My $600 system gets 4000 on 3DMark06. That would make it 1/10 of the price, and only about 1/3 of the score.

Reply to kingoftherings

bish-ireland wrote :

Hi

Got a new pc Dell9200, 8800GTX, Intel Quad 2.4, 4GB ram (3 seen by vista).

3dmark06 of 11,112

Q: Is this acceptable/ok/good??

I have noone else to ask - and im lonely, kidding, hehe:)


They install 4GB of RAM but don't give you a 64-bit OS? It's also too bad 3DMark scores don't mean anything; also, you could have built a much better system for less. :??:

Reply to Heyyou27

I'd drool with that kind of cash to build my own system. I'd tour each company, see the guys at Zalmann, sip champagne and smoke cigars (lit with 100$ bills of course) while I build it. Maybe rub elbows with Bill Gates, hobnob around town, probably have two hookers for the whole night helping me build it while drinking a case of Henessey... and still have a cheaper/better/faster system, and a huge hangover... Well, cheers kid, you only live once!

Seriously, next system just post to Tom's and you could have 2 systems for that price with better components and no crapware installed (although I heard they are cutting back on that with the XPS line).

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Reply to Falken699

you should get at least 12,000 with a quad core.
Check drivers.

Reply to bornking

Falken699 wrote :

...probably have two hookers for the whole night helping me build it while drinking a case of Henessey...



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Now that is funny!!!!

It is like the ultimate geek dream!!! But I would maybe trade the Henessey for some vintage Port!!

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Reply to SpeedyVV

Hmm...Although 3dmark doesn't mean everything, a score of 10,000 compared to 5,000 still means that the 10,000 pc runs a lot better. My q6600 at 2.7GHz and 2gig of DDR2 ram and 8800GTS 320mb gets a score of 12,200. Your score of 11,112 is not a whole lot different than mine, however you have a 8800GTX so I'd say it's a tad bit low. I believe that the 3dmark06 score has an accuracy of +/- 1000 to 2000 so maybe you're all right.

Reply to Evilonigiri

Evilonigiri wrote :

Hmm...Although 3dmark doesn't mean everything, a score of 10,000 compared to 5,000 still means that the 10,000 pc runs a lot better. My q6600 at 2.7GHz and 2gig of DDR2 ram and 8800GTS 320mb gets a score of 12,200. Your score of 11,112 is not a whole lot different than mine, however you have a 8800GTX so I'd say it's a tad bit low. I believe that the 3dmark06 score has an accuracy of +/- 1000 to 2000 so maybe you're all right.



I don't believe that. At the default res and settings there is no way that your system can get 12,200 in 3DMark06. My system (see sig) doesn't get 12k. My score hovers around 11,600-11,900. That's with an additional 2GB RAM and an Ultra. I can't see a moderate CPU overclock doing THAT much.

bish-ireland: Your scores are pretty good. I have seen a lot of GTX systems barely getting 10k with an overclocked dual core. Tweaking your RAM might add a little (usually neglibile). OC your CPU if you need to. Which GTX do you have? Quite a few come OC'ed from the factory. 3DMark isn't the end all for judging performance, it's not even a very good way to judge between different systems. However, it's pretty good if you are trying to find out if your OCing and tweaking have yielded any improvement on your OWN system.

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Reply to EternalAlpha

That is a great score.

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Reply to paq7512

Quote :

I'd drool with that kind of cash to build my own system. I'd tour each company, see the guys at Zalmann, sip champagne and smoke cigars (lit with 100$ bills of course) while I build it. Maybe rub elbows with Bill Gates, hobnob around town, probably have two hookers for the whole night helping me build it while drinking a case of Henessey... and still have a cheaper/better/faster system, and a huge hangover... Well, cheers kid, you only live once!

 


ROFL


Message edited by dashbarron on 09-16-2007 at 06:17:56 AM
Reply to dashbarron

Falken699 wrote :

I'd drool with that kind of cash to build my own system. I'd tour each company, see the guys at Zalmann, sip champagne and smoke cigars (lit with 100$ bills of course) while I build it. Maybe rub elbows with Bill Gates, hobnob around town, probably have two hookers for the whole night helping me build it while drinking a case of Henessey... and still have a cheaper/better/faster system, and a huge hangover... Well, cheers kid, you only live once!

Seriously, next system just post to Tom's and you could have 2 systems for that price with better components and no crapware installed (although I heard they are cutting back on that with the XPS line).

Excellent post!

Reply to Heyyou27

Yes that would be great but why get only 2 hookers when you can get more.

Reply to cristip60

cristip60 wrote :

Yes that would be great but why get only 2 hookers when you can get more.



Because more than 4 hands on a single mobo it is just too much! :D

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Reply to SpeedyVV

Seriously... who CARES about 3Dmark, it's irrelevant as far as performance is concerned. If you want to measure your system's performance install fraps and a game, then use it's benchmark tool to tell how well it performs.

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Reply to emp

but that takes EFFORT, I mean, who'd want to do that :lol:

Reply to spuddyt

EternalAlpha wrote :

I don't believe that. At the default res and settings there is no way that your system can get 12,200 in 3DMark06. My system (see sig) doesn't get 12k. My score hovers around 11,600-11,900. That's with an additional 2GB RAM and an Ultra. I can't see a moderate CPU overclock doing THAT much.


No,no it's true. Well, almost. Here's a pic of it:
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7117/pic1du7.jpg
I think your score is a bit low...But hey, 3dmark doesn't really mean everything. But it does mean something if it is more than 5000points apart.

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Message edited by Evilonigiri on 09-17-2007 at 12:10:01 AM
Reply to Evilonigiri

Evilonigiri wrote :

I think your score is a bit low...But hey, 3dmark doesn't really mean everything. But it does mean something if it is more than 5000points apart.



Well two things to keep in mind:
1) You have XP and he has Vista.
2) He bought a Dell and as a result will have a ton of bloatware clogging his system. Unless he remove it, his performance will suffer.

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Reply to lostandwandering

EternalAlpha wrote :

I don't believe that. At the default res and settings there is no way that your system can get 12,200 in 3DMark06. My system (see sig) doesn't get 12k. My score hovers around 11,600-11,900. That's with an additional 2GB RAM and an Ultra. I can't see a moderate CPU overclock doing THAT much.

bish-ireland: Your scores are pretty good. I have seen a lot of GTX systems barely getting 10k with an overclocked dual core. Tweaking your RAM might add a little (usually neglibile). OC your CPU if you need to. Which GTX do you have? Quite a few come OC'ed from the factory. 3DMark isn't the end all for judging performance, it's not even a very good way to judge between different systems. However, it's pretty good if you are trying to find out if your OCing and tweaking have yielded any improvement on your OWN system.


Yeah, I don't buy it either, give us a link.

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Reply to miahallen

EternalAlpha wrote :

Tweaking your RAM might add a little (usually neglibile). OC your CPU if you need to.



He can't OC anything but his GTX. (maybe the RAM, not sure) Dell has a nasty little habit of locking the tweaking functions in the BIOS thus preventing their clients from F-ing up their computers. I wish they didn't, cuz I have a couple of aging Dell systems that could use a boost.

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Reply to lostandwandering

miahallen wrote :

Yeah, I don't buy it either, give us a link.


I did. Look up.

Quote :

Well two things to keep in mind:
1) You have XP and he has Vista.
2) He bought a Dell and as a result will have a ton of bloatware clogging his system. Unless he remove it, his performance will suffer.


I guess the main part is vista and xp. I suppose you get a better score in xp. Figures.

Reply to Evilonigiri

Evilonigiri wrote :

I did. Look up.

Quote :

Well two things to keep in mind:
1) You have XP and he has Vista.
2) He bought a Dell and as a result will have a ton of bloatware clogging his system. Unless he remove it, his performance will suffer.


I guess the main part is vista and xp. I suppose you get a better score in xp. Figures.



I am sorry, but an image doesn't equal proof. That image can be whipped up in less than 5 minutes. You will have to give a link of your score submittal to the 3DMark db for it to be considered legit (I know that can be fooled too, but not as easily as a quick Photoshop job).

I am not trying to pick a fight, but it's illogical to accept that you can get 3DMarks that far superior systems (read: GTX/Ultra) can't touch.

lostandwandering: does that also apply to Dell's high-end offerings? I have never seen a high-end Dell, so I can't say, but shouldn't something meant for the enthusiast, like the XPS, offer some overclocking capabilities?

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Reply to EternalAlpha

I think the 720 H2C is user overclockable. I have a Dimension 8400 and 4700 and neither one can be overclocked. I'm pretty sure the 9200 can't be either.

 

edit: Dell themselves overclocks the DDR2-800 RAM to 1066 and they do the same for the CPU on the highest level H2C, but I'm not sure if the user can go in and mess with the settings. To be honest, I really don't know definitively about the newer systems.


Message edited by lostandwandering on 09-17-2007 at 12:54:43 AM
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Reply to lostandwandering

EternalAlpha wrote :

I am sorry, but an image doesn't equal proof. That image can be whipped up in less than 5 minutes. You will have to give a link of your score submittal to the 3DMark db for it to be considered legit (I know that can be fooled too, but not as easily as a quick Photoshop job).

I am not trying to pick a fight, but it's illogical to accept that you can get 3DMarks that far superior systems (read: GTX/Ultra) can't touch.

lostandwandering: does that also apply to Dell's high-end offerings? I have never seen a high-end Dell, so I can't say, but shouldn't something meant for the enthusiast, like the XPS, offer some overclocking capabilities?


Well, I don't have the internet on that pc...it's a thing in my house, my parents don't trust me on having the net on my very own pc. I have to be "supervised" when I use the net, in fact they are sitting on the couch, watching tv atm. The pc I am using is a crappy P4 right now, the "internet pc" You can believe me or not. And *AHEM* can't touch? Check this out
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/ind [...] =pcb_3dm06
or google thousands of other sites
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9257/pic2pj5.jpg

Reply to Evilonigiri

What's with this, calling people liars on these forums????

I mean someone also called me a liar yesterday because I said I got 7000 with 2 7600GTs in SLI.

I put a post to prove, which kinda borthered me, but I kind a figured that the person did not really mean to call me a liar.

The thing that I guess that I dont understand is, is this such a problem on this forum with people lying about their 3DMark06 scores.

I would think that it would be more appropriate to ask someone with an atypical score what their configuration is. You can alway go and check if similar system get the same score.

Anyways just a thought :kaola:
BTW I just re tested under Vista before my upgrade to an 8800GTX and still got a 7071 :-)

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Reply to SpeedyVV

cristip60 wrote :

Why do people buy dell's?


Why do you turn plurals into possessives?

Reply to joefriday

cristip60 wrote :

Why do people buy dell's?



People buy Dells because they don't have the time, patience or the know-how to do it themselves. Dell provides jobs for thousands of people so you shouldn't complain.

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Reply to lostandwandering

cristip60 wrote :

Why do people buy dell's?


Because like in business people sometimes prefer to stick to their core competencies.

Why would a web designer that can make $50-$100/hr spend 10-50hrs to get to the point of building a computer to save a couple of hundred bucks?

Hey, Fredom of choice!!! I enjoyed building a system, but I was also very happy buying a HP HTPC. No regrets!

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Reply to SpeedyVV

Evilonigiri wrote :

Well, I don't have the internet on that pc...it's a thing in my house, my parents don't trust me on having the net on my very own pc. I have to be "supervised" when I use the net, in fact they are sitting on the couch, watching tv atm. The pc I am using is a crappy P4 right now, the "internet pc" You can believe me or not. And *AHEM* can't touch? Check this out
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/ind [...] =pcb_3dm06
or google thousands of other sites


I'm looking at the list you linked to, and it just serves to boost my confidence that the score claimed isn't possible.

#18 Looks very close to OP's config, except that he runs an OC'ed GTX, but only scores 11411

#9 beats your score using the same components, but #9's components are HEAVILY OCed.

Quote :

What's with this, calling people liars on these forums????


What's with people lying on these forums, why attempt to impress a bunch of strangers with unbelievable scores. If they were more realistic, people would tend to believe you without proof. If your going to make wild claims, then you should automatically provide "proof". I would believe you if I knew your GTS was OC'ed to high hell! What clocks are you running on it?

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Reply to miahallen

*sigh* look at #9 and #10...Pretty much the only diff is the GTX and GTS (I don't think the 3dmark is optimized for quad so) yet the system with the GTX is slightly higher than the GTS. My system is very much like #9, cause my GTS is heavily overclocked TOO. Like 650/ 1060. Overclocking my cpu to 3.0GHZ gives me only 12450 so I keep it at 2.7GHZ. Doesn't that link infact PROVES that I'm not lying? Why should I lie in the first place? Hell if I wanted to brag about it I'd start a new thread about me getting a "unbelievable" score. Look guys, 3dmark is NOTHING when you're comparing to the 100's points. When running 3dmark sometimes I get 12200, sometimes 12100, but with the SAME settings. Please I could care less if you want to believe them or not but please don't call other people liars WITHOUT PROVING IT.


Message edited by Evilonigiri on 09-17-2007 at 03:35:16 AM
Reply to Evilonigiri

Evilonigiri wrote :

My q6600 at 2.7GHz and 2gig of DDR2 ram and 8800GTS 320mb gets a score of 12,200.


Quote :

I would believe you if I knew your GTS was OC'ed to high hell!


Thanks for clarifying your system specs. 650MHz on your core clock is 30% higher than a standard 8800GTS, so with this new information I retract my previous comments.

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Reply to miahallen

miahallen wrote :

Quote :

I would believe you if I knew your GTS was OC'ed to high hell!


Thanks for clarifying your system specs. 650MHz on your core clock is 30% higher than a standard 8800GTS, so with this new information I retract my previous comments.


Ah well from my position, no internet and all, it does look mightily suspicious. I should have stated this fact earlier, in fact I should put my specs in my sig. I'm just lazy that's all.

Reply to Evilonigiri

Hum... 11K sounds good for non-oc stuff...
I do 13028 with a e6850@3.825 and a 8800GTX@644/2000. It's a lot cheaper to build it myself than buy it from Dell... (and more fun// :)
3Dm06 is very sensitive to the number of cores and the speed of them... which is also going to be more and more true in games... (I just bought lost planet...4 cores are better than 2 for this game...supreme commander also...more will come...)

Best regards,

Reply to darkerx

Evilonigiri wrote :

Ah well from my position, no internet and all, it does look mightily suspicious. I should have stated this fact earlier, in fact I should put my specs in my sig. I'm just lazy that's all.



If your GTS is OC'ed that high, then such a score is possible. Since, in your original post, you specifically stated the OC of your CPU, but merely said 8800 GTS, I assumed that it was left at stock.

Well, that clears that. :D. Anyway, congrats on achieving such a high overclock, particularly on the RAM. You using any special cooling? What does pushing clocks that high do to your temps?

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Reply to EternalAlpha

how'd you get the gts that high? (or is it normal?)

Reply to spuddyt

I get 11000s in vista ultimate on e6600 stock speed and 8800 gtx oce 600/900 bioshock beta driver 168.44 or 164.44 i dont remember. and i am reformatting now cause vista sucks so much i cant play bf2 with compatility mode on or any other good games
q6600 4gb ram and 8800 gtx 13000 should be the right.


Message edited by itotallybelieveyou on 09-17-2007 at 11:22:14 PM
Reply to itotallybelieveyou

cristip60 wrote :

Why do people buy dell's?


Dell was good, like 5-10 years ago. Many think the Monitors are still good.

Reply to enewmen

EternalAlpha wrote :

If your GTS is OC'ed that high, then such a score is possible. Since, in your original post, you specifically stated the OC of your CPU, but merely said 8800 GTS, I assumed that it was left at stock.

Well, that clears that. :D. Anyway, congrats on achieving such a high overclock, particularly on the RAM. You using any special cooling? What does pushing clocks that high do to your temps?


I guess I got lucky :/ Well I only do 650 for benchmark cause it's only stable for like 10mins. Mem clock is completely stable at 1060 (I ran 3dmark 3 times with all eye candy turned on, using stock heatsink with fan running at 100%) Any how my normal settings are 639/1060, and even though I've got 4 120mm fans blowing on them (stacker), I get like 78C during games (after it finished 3dmark06 3 times, temps were 85C :/). Just for reference how well my pc cools, my q6600 at 2.7Ghz idles (using coretemp) around 33-36. Not too bad I'd say.

EDIT: obtw I have an XFX 8800GTS 320mb XXX (580/900-stock settings)


Message edited by Evilonigiri on 09-18-2007 at 06:07:08 AM
Reply to Evilonigiri

Ill jsut say now, the difference using my 7950gx2 going from vista back to XP on 3dmark06 was close to 2k points.

 

Atm I get just over 11k points, however my resolution only runs at 1280x720, rather then 1280x1024. 0.3mp's, it should n'tmake too much of a difference at all, maybe 1k at most.

 

Also btw, Dell may not appeal to you, but that doesnt mean they arent any good just becuse you dont think they are. I think youll find the ratio of people who build their own PC's comapred to those who buy from companys is very much in Dells favor, and the ratio of overclockers compared to non overclockers, is completly in their favor.


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