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August 31, 2007 6:24:02 AM

Its my birthday soon and I want to get a new computer. The computer will be mostly used for school and some gaming. I used to be gamer, but not so much anymore. I still play CS: Source, mostly wow, but want to be able to play the new games at decent settings with decent fps. I don't want to spend too much around 600 dollars, but don't really have a set maximum. Not having the best video card is no problem, since i plan on upgrading in the future. Here is my build, any suggestions would be highly appreciated.

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S - Retail
Item #: N82E16827106057
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$31.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148136
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$119.99

GIGABYTE GA-M61P-S3 AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 6100 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813128034
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

-$5.00 Instant
$79.99
$74.99

EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814130085
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$15.00 Mail-in Rebate
$114.99

* AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA5200CSBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103759
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
* CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145034
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

-$30.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$233.99
$203.99

The subtotal is 545.95. I plan on using my old case, and my old 450w antec power supply. Thanks again

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August 31, 2007 8:28:27 AM

1_Any OverClocking ? if u do , then get a E4400 instead and OC
2_Get a x1950pro instead of 8600gts , it blows it away

overall looks good
August 31, 2007 1:25:56 PM

and unless you have a good high end power supply, i would buy a new one
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August 31, 2007 2:37:48 PM

Don't go with VGA-onboard-Mobos, if you don' plan to use it! and get a better Mobo!
If you're not an OCer, 5200+ is fine. If you want it OCed get E4400.
Lite-on? Know samsung 183L, 203B, and LG H62N ?
8600GTS is not worh it! stick with 8600GT or go higher to 320MB 8800GTS! or x1950Pro/XT!
How old is this PSU? I recommend that you should buy a new one if it is more/near 5 years old (The capacitors may have aged).
August 31, 2007 4:25:22 PM

Would this video card be better for my money, is their a particular brand of ATI video cards recommended?

ASUS EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M Radeon X1950PRO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814121031
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$149.99

I don't plan on overclocking my cpu. Is there a particular brand of psu recommended? Also what would be a better mobo, I chose that one because it won the consumer choice award twice on newegg. Thanks for any suggestions.
August 31, 2007 5:42:41 PM

x1950pro blows away a 8600gt
August 31, 2007 5:54:12 PM

albert9264 said:
ASUS EAX1950PRO X1950PRO 256MB $149.99

I don't plan on overclocking my cpu. Is there a particular brand of psu recommended? Also what would be a better mobo, I chose that one because it won the consumer choice award twice on newegg. Thanks for any suggestions.
I think your MB choice is fine for a budget no-overclocking build.
The price & peformance of 1950Pro and 8600GTS is pretty close - with 1950PRO being slightly cheaper and more powerful, but not by a large margin. Since you plan to upgrade in the future I'd suggest a 8600GTS would be easier to re-sell on ebay than a 1950Pro. You can get an overclocked version of the 8600GTS that should just about match the 1950Pro in peformance for about the same price. MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC or Leadtek PX8600GTS 256MB Extreme. There is also a 1950Pro for about $130 after rebate. 1950Pro and 8600GTS video cards
If you can squeeze a new PSU into your budget either of these should handle a future upgrade to all but the highest top end video cards. PSU upgrades



August 31, 2007 5:54:34 PM

Thanks, I'll definitely spend the extra money on the 1950 then.
August 31, 2007 6:05:52 PM

Yup! 1950pro has better performance than 8600GT, under one condition. 1950pro works only in DX9 but 8600GT can under also DX10. So it depends how you look at it.
I don't recommend this 8600GTS. The price/performance is very weak. Just stick to 8600GT if choose to have a DX10card, but Ii you can still afford 8800GTS 320MB, than go for it.
August 31, 2007 6:51:58 PM

I want to save some money. Since i plan on upgrading later on, it will ne nice to have some money left over to get a dx10 card if i need it. But how about my mobo, any suggestions on a better one? And any psu recommendations?
August 31, 2007 7:40:32 PM

It would be wrong to say that the current price/performance of the 8600GTS ($130) is very weak compared to the 1950Pro ($130) or 8600GT ($99). Back when the 8600GTS was going for $225 that would have been the case of course. Depending on what you games you play and what monitor resolutions you use you could find either the 8600GTS or 1950Pro edging out the other. But for the most part you couldnt tell the difference playing your games - they's seem just about as fast. Checkout this review for yourself: Xbit Labs 8600GTS OC review Remember that card is only $3 more than the $130 (after rebate) 1950Pro I linked above. You should also consider resale value and I think in the future reselling a DX10 8600GTS OC will get a higher price than a DX9 1950Pro.


See the PSU recommendations in my link above.
I think your motherboard choice is fine but if you want to look at an upgrade check out the AMD 690 chipset motherboards or nForce 570 chipset motherbards


August 31, 2007 8:28:01 PM

So right now I am looking at.

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S - Retail
Item #: N82E16827106057
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$31.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148136
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$119.99
DFI INFINITY NF570-M2/G AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813136019
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$99.99
MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814127284
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$152.99
ENERMAX EG465P-VE FMA 2.2 ATX12V 460W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817194011
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$5.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$79.99
$74.99
ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink - Retail
Item #: N82E16835118223
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$10.00 Instant
$63.99
$53.99
* AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA5200CSBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103759
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
* CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145034
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

-$30.00 Combo
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate
$233.99
$203.99


The subtotal is 737.93. Any more suggestions?
August 31, 2007 10:17:49 PM

Did you change your mind about overclocking? ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED Cooling HSF is definately an overclocking part.
If you're still not planning on OC'ing - the Retail X2 5200+ has the stock AMD heat sink and fan.
You could save $15-20 if you can go with the Barracuda 7200.10 400GB hard disk or go with the 500GB hard disks from Western Digital or Hitachi. Four Hard Drives @ NewEgg

September 2, 2007 10:28:09 PM

bah, i waited too long and the cpu memory combo went up 50 bucks /cry.
September 4, 2007 4:57:49 PM

Well my final build plan is

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S - Retail
Item #: N82E16827106057
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$31.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Item #: N82E16822148136
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$119.99
DFI INFINITY NF570-M2/G AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813136019
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$99.99
MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814127284
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy

$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$152.99
ENERMAX EG465P-VE FMA 2.2 ATX12V 460W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817194011
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

-$5.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$79.99
$74.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADA5200CSBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103759
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145034
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy

Im just going to wait for each of the parts to go on sale to buy them, thanks for all your help guys, I'll keep you guys updated.
September 12, 2007 2:55:52 AM

Ok well i bought the parts and built the computer. I have another problem now checking the cpu temp in the bios it says that it is 70c, it jumps pretty quickly from 64-74c back and forth back and forth. I have no idea what the problem is. Is the fan not on properly, or a faulty temperature probe? Thanks
September 12, 2007 5:55:18 AM

The fan isnt fitted correctly
September 12, 2007 6:58:58 AM

I have taken the fan off put some new thermal paste and put the fan back on, but it is still at 70c. Is there an online picture guide i can look at, there doesn't seem to be too many ways to put a fan on incorrectly. It doesn't look like it goes on any specific way. As long as there is thermal compound on the cpu, and the fan is locked in right? If i find out i've been doing it wrong all these years...... I remember my old 2400+ had like a ledge so the fan could only be put on in one way, too bad this isn't like that. Thanks for your help, i'll try taking off the fan and putting it back on again.
September 12, 2007 4:10:49 PM

Its possible there is a problem reporting the correct temps.
Also use a different temp monitoring tool like Core Temp and/or Speedfan
Check the DFI support forums for similiar problems and things like BIOS updates.

I know it seems obvious but is the HSF fan actually spinning? You didnt mention that.
You should be able to google up some AMD HSF installation tips, and even videos.
I seem to remember some vidoes on the AMD website a while back. Good Luck.
September 14, 2007 5:10:11 PM

I downloaded both Core Temp and Speedfan. For Core Temp i get around 38 for both cores. In Speed Fan Temp1:55c Temp 2:49c Temp 3: 41c HD0 30c Temp1 30c Core 37c. So i guess my cpu temperature is just fine. Now I wonder what Temp 1 is and why I have two of them. Thanks again.
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