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September 17, 2007 5:30:36 PM

I was going to build a new computer, but with all the new stuff coming out within the next two months, I decided to wait until Dec. I would just keep my current system the same but I recently got a new 22 inch monitor and my 7600GT can't keep up with the larger screen. My current system is a Amd X2 3800+, with 3gigs of ram, and a 7600GT.

I am considering getting either a 1950Pro or a 7900gt. In your opinion which of these is the better card? (yes I realize that a lot of you will recommend the 8800GTS, but I don't want to spend that much money for an update to an older system, that I will be selling to my brother when I build my new one)

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September 17, 2007 6:27:36 PM

What's your local pricing?

If the X1950 PRO is notably cheaper, I'd go for it.

If they're the same price, get the 7900 GT. It's a tad better.
September 17, 2007 6:37:40 PM

I agree with Cleeve. Choose based on price with this one.
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a c 169 U Graphics card
September 17, 2007 7:02:54 PM

X1950 rival is 7900GS , 7900GT beats X1950PRO
September 17, 2007 7:13:50 PM

I'd put the X1950 PRO between the 7900 GS and 7900 GT.

It can challenge the 7900 GT in a few titles, so the X1950 PRO is usually a good buy if it's cheaper.
September 17, 2007 7:19:13 PM

where does the 8600 stand in all this.
a c 130 U Graphics card
September 17, 2007 7:22:33 PM

I think that it probably does just come down to price and personal pref over one camp or another on this one provided there is no psu issues concerning the 1950 pro.
The level of inprovement over the 7600 will be about the same so its kind of a win win situation :) 
Mactronix
September 17, 2007 7:31:51 PM

thanks for the advice guys, I found a good deal on a like new 7900gt for $134 shipped so I am going to get that.
September 17, 2007 7:32:57 PM

well good and no problem
September 17, 2007 7:37:31 PM

Mega_Man_X said:
where does the 8600 stand in all this.


From worst to best

8600 GT = 2600 XT
7900 GS
X1950 PRO
7900 GT
September 17, 2007 7:58:56 PM

@Mega_Man_X:
The 8600gt is definitely a mid-range card. It doesn't perform as well as any of these other cards (7900gs, x1950pro, 7900gt).

@seeker1321:
I would get the X1950. It costs a lot less and performs close enough to the 7900gt that getting the 7900gt doesn't justify the cost.
September 17, 2007 8:12:00 PM

^Did you see the price he listed for the 7900GT? Find me a Pro that is that cheap. I don't think you are going to beat that price.

I say go for it.

edit: you know what? I'm gonna go eat my words cuz I looked at newegg and they have a few under $130. The final difference is still only $10 so I still think the 7900GT is the way to go.
September 17, 2007 8:14:14 PM

the 8600GTS can be found for around the same price as the Pro and performs similarly. Just something else to consider. The list Cleeve posted should be enough guidance to pick the right card for the price.
September 17, 2007 8:15:09 PM

most recent games use lots of shader power. i believe that's where the x1950pro beats the 7900gt.

so min. fps i think is a bit higher on the x1950pro.
max. fps i think is a bit higher (sometimes a lot) on the 7900gt


personally i don't care about 120fps vs 100fps but i DO care about 25 fps vs 20!

the 7900gt and gs overclock a LOT better so if you don't mind overclocking get one of the Nvidia's (preferably the GT)
September 17, 2007 8:31:55 PM

isn't it the gs that OC's well?
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 17, 2007 8:45:21 PM

One more voice into the confusion...

First, I wouldn't try overclocking the 7900GT. The 7950GT sure, but not the 7900GT. It wasn't until after I got my card, the x1800XT, that I heard about the pre overclocked 7900GT dying problem. It seems that the ram chips are clocked to high, have no cooling, and they end up dying. I was planning on getting the 7900GT, and after hearing about this, was glad I got the card I did.

I also agree that price should be the deciding factor in all this. The x1950pro is faster then the 7900GS, and probably slower then the 7900GT. I can't say for sure, I'm not sure I've even seen a benchie between the x1950pro and the 7900GT. I do know that my x1800XT is about as fast as the x1950pro, depending on the game. (for those more advanced shader games, the pro is faster.) This leads me to believe that the 7900GT is also about as fast as the x1950pro. As long as you don't mind have a "like new" video card, it sounds ok. But as I mentioned earlier, I wouldn't push the ram speeds much.

Last, the newer cards. I would put the 2600XT a notch above the 8600GT. The 8600GTS is, again depending on the game, about the speed of the 7900GS. (stock ofcourse. A massively overclocked 7900GS should be faster.) I actually don't suggest the 8400/8600 series of cards. Get an 8500GT if you don't game and need a good HTPC video card, get an older 7 series for anything else. The 8400s are to weak for pretty much anything, and the 8600s can be beat by the cheaper 7 series. If you want to game in DX10, you pretty much need an 8800GTS.
September 17, 2007 9:28:18 PM

Woah! For that price, get that.
a b U Graphics card
September 18, 2007 12:00:46 AM

I rarely see things differently than Cleeve, but priced the same, I would take a X1950 pro over a 7900GT. Depends on the games you play and what features are important to you, but IMO X1950 pro >= 7900GT. Sheer performance, I'd say overall the 7900GT has the edge without FSAA but the X1950 pro has the edge with FSAA.
September 18, 2007 12:04:39 AM

pauldh said:
I rarely see things differently than Cleeve, but priced the same, I would take a X1950 pro over a 7900GT. Depends on the games you play and what features are important to you, but IMO X1950 pro >= 7900GT. Sheer performance, I'd say overall the 7900GT has the edge without FSAA but the X1950 pro has the edge with FSAA.


Yeah, but the deal that kpo linked to at tiger changes everything IMO.
September 18, 2007 12:43:33 AM

If you are thinking EVGA 7900 GT, do a complete search of forums on this one, and note that they don't have it listed on their website as a card currently offered for sale, even though there are lots out there in the pipeline it looks like. I wish I hadn't gotten one. Good Luck!
September 18, 2007 1:40:55 AM

Yes I overclocked my 7900gs from 450/1320 to 600/1620 with no problems
September 18, 2007 2:34:51 AM

Regarding EVGA 7900 GT, I must say EVGA's service and policies are highly recommended, just buy another one of their models.
September 18, 2007 2:20:11 PM

lostandwandering said:
Woah! For that price, get that.


I agree, but I hate rebates. For the price he would pay up front, he could get an x1950XT... which is a better card.
September 18, 2007 2:40:48 PM

pauldh said:
I rarely see things differently than Cleeve, but...



You have made a powerful enemy today, Paul.

Sleep with your eyes open... ;) 
September 18, 2007 3:16:04 PM

I hate to be a stick in the mud and the voice of reason here........but if you are going to build a whole new system in December why not just wait..........Let's see hmmm it's September ....... October....hey December....approximately 2 months away.....Then get a much better video card with you new "Krunk" system.....
September 18, 2007 4:01:13 PM

caamsa said:
I hate to be a stick in the mud and the voice of reason here........but if you are going to build a whole new system in December why not just wait..........Let's see hmmm it's September ....... October....hey December....approximately 2 months away.....Then get a much better video card with you new "Krunk" system.....



There is a November in there somewhere..... I think
September 18, 2007 4:29:33 PM

TSIMonster said:
There is a November in there somewhere..... I think



:whistle:  LOL you are right that is what I get for posting while chewing gum....... :D 

Anyway I still stand by my advice to the poster........
September 18, 2007 5:03:45 PM

Grab the 7950gt from bfg if you can. I grabbed 1 for 140 last month and it rox. Stock cooler is pretty hot, but grabbed an arctic cooling acclero s1 and the fans that go with it and overclocked it never gets above 55*C. BTW, it overclock great.
September 18, 2007 5:41:12 PM

cleeve said:
You have made a powerful enemy today, Paul.

Sleep with your eyes open... ;) 



haha :lol: 

Get either...you cant loose.

Orrrr...get the 7950 that was posted :wahoo: 
September 18, 2007 6:12:14 PM

caamsa said:
I hate to be a stick in the mud and the voice of reason here........but if you are going to build a whole new system in December why not just wait..........Let's see hmmm it's September ....... October....hey December....approximately 2 months away.....Then get a much better video card with you new "Krunk" system.....



I agree, except I am selling my current system to my brother when I build my new one, and I want to future proof it a little for him, the 7900gt will do a lot better job than the 7600gt, especially when he gets COD4
September 18, 2007 6:33:55 PM

You could just buy the card, or let him, when you sell it to him. You will get a better card for the same money.
September 18, 2007 7:14:32 PM

seeker1321 said:
I agree, except I am selling my current system to my brother when I build my new one, and I want to future proof it a little for him, the 7900gt will do a lot better job than the 7600gt, especially when he gets COD4


Your'e a good brother......I am sure you are giving him a good deal..... ;) 
a b U Graphics card
September 19, 2007 3:28:43 AM

cleeve said:
You have made a powerful enemy today, Paul.

Sleep with your eyes open... ;) 


:whistle:  And here I figured you could take it. I'll be awake all night now.



The 7950GT for $140 does look like a good deal. Too bad the X1950XT's haven't dropped more.
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 19, 2007 4:51:45 AM

The x1900xt would be a good card for that price. The x1900GT is to cut down for it to be a good card.
a b U Graphics card
September 19, 2007 11:33:15 AM

Yeah, I agree it's a step below the other cards being discussed, But not everyone wants to mail in a $40 rebate. I don't see a better card for $110 without rebates right now. Just trying to provide a cheaper option for those who read this but can't stretch a budget to a $180 card with a rebate. It's about equal to a 7900GS. But being a revision 2 X1900GT, it is a tad slower stock and will not be as good an OC'er as the original X1900GT.

Just one review from a smaller site, but this rare one shows off X1800XT 256MB, X1900GT, and 7900GT: http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=550&p=10
September 19, 2007 1:02:30 PM

I have my vanilla EVGA 7900GT OC'd to 525/1600. Heat is an issue with OCing it. Performance is very good but some of the factory OCs are even higher. My GF's 7900 GS is OC'd to 500/1400 and again good performance on a 19" WS. The x1950 pro would be still be the best choice for the $.
September 19, 2007 4:06:54 PM

pauldh said:
:whistle:  And here I figured you could take it.


Nah. Inside this cold and calculating exterior is the a man no more emotionally mature than a 3-year old child...
September 21, 2007 11:03:16 PM

How does the 7950 GT compare to the 7900 GT and 1950 pro?

I want a card for HTPC for both Windows and Linux. I read that the GF 7 series is more compatible and less problematic. But, is that changing? Nvidia is releasing BETA drivers for XP for their 8500/8600 series more often but are the most recent ones working?

I might have the odd game such as WOW.

Should I stick with GF 7 and go for the cheap(est) 7950 GT or a 8600 GTS (which I can find at same price or $10 more)?

Thanks for your (or any) reply.
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 22, 2007 6:15:06 AM

The 7950GT is faster then the 7900GT or the x1950pro. In order of power/speed, 8800GTS > x1950XT > 7950GT > x1950pro > 7900GT. I'm not sure by how much the 7950GT is faster, but if you are talking about the TD linked $140 7950GT, I don't think you can currently get a better card for that price. There used to be some x1950XTs near that price, but the x1950XT has all but disappeared.

I have no clue how well Nvidia drivers are working for XP, I have an ATI/AMD video card.
a b U Graphics card
September 22, 2007 11:49:19 PM

The 7950GT performs better than the X1950 pro, 7900GT, and 8600GTS. Some games like NFS Carbon, the X1950 pro would beat it, but overall of those 4 cards the 7950GT is the best. The X1900XT/X1950XT are better than the 7950GT if you find one of those in your budget.

I agree, if you can't go for the X1950XT or 8800GTS, then that 7950GT seems about the best you can do now for under $150. It's far better in most games than the 8600GTS.
September 23, 2007 1:10:36 AM

Tnt2 ultra is fastest
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