I know you guys are probably thinking, hot damn another "I wanna upgrade for cheap" thread... but hey, a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do.
My brother is currently using my old computer, it's a modified Compaq Presario SR1230NX. It's got a 160GB 7200RPM hdd that I was thinking of re-using for him, DVD writer/CD writer combo drive, Regular CD Drive and that's about it for re-using... just the drives, the monitor, keyboard and mouse.
The system he's using now is an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2ghz barton I think) and is like 434 socket I think. He's got 1gb pc2700 memory and an ATI 9200 video card. I've got the above mentioned things and this case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811144026 that I got for free from a friend. I think it's a pretty decent case, and he's already said he likes it. I figure I could throw a couple extra fans in it and it'd be great for him.
His birthday is coming up relatively soon, and Christmas not far off from that, so I figure if I can build him up a decent system for 3-400 and surprise the crap out of him that'd be awesome.
Here's some games that he plays regularly (or would like to):
(Also for these games, his monitor maxes out at 1280x1024 so that's not too bad)
Oblivion (Would like to, he plays on mine now) (He wouldn't care about low graphic settings or anything, just as long as he could play at a reasonable framerate)
Battle For Middle Earth 2 (with expansion)
Unreal Tournament 2k4
Kotor 2
He'd love to play Overlord, but it seems to me there's some pretty high req's on that game.
Not sure what else really, it'd just be nice for him to be able to look at the game shelf and be able to play more than like 5 games on it.
Check out this CPU chart comparing Intel to the AMD for the programs you'll use the computer for and then price on newegg. For that price you're likely better off with AMS if he's not seriously overclocking. For $10 more with rebate you can get an 8600GT, bit faster than the 7600GT. Generally AMD mobo are a bit less expensive than Intel for a little extra savings
The ratings are not too great on that mobo... are there some better ones for under $100? I don't really know much about the AMD situation right now, other than it's not as good as intel, but cheaper (=
That does seem nice. Do you think there'd be cooling issues on it? I've always stayed away from micro boards for that reason.
I have 2 ASUS 6150 micros boards and have never had a heating problem. Boards are in Antec Sonata II cases with on 120mm fan Forgot to put the site for CPU comparison. While AMD is not as fast or overclock as well as Intel they are no bad. If you're on a tight budget for gaming , you're better off with a slower, less expensive CPU and better video card.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html
The Antec PSU is overpriced and not that Great.
The Corsair 450w PSU is a good buy.
http://www.jonnyguru.com for reviews.
It can handle any system.
The FSP 400w just listed for $40 will power the system you selected, though high end 8800 cards may be pushing it with the FSP.
Check on some of the P35 boards with rebates on new egg.
Some are now down to about $80 which nice for a budget system.
The 2140 will do just fine, it's a budget system.
Definitely the X1950pro if you can swing it.
At least on Oblivion the X19x0 series tends to do better than equivalent 7 series N'vidia cards... so if that's important you should probably get the X1950 Pro. Its a better card than the 7600GT anyway. http://www23.tomshardware.com/grap [...] &chart=318 You can definitely save money on the PSU, and you can probably get better bang for the buck with an AMD system... so basically reiterating what has already been said.
-mcg
Message edited by MrCommunistGen on 09-06-2007 at 01:41:35 AM
All Newegg. The Gigabyte is an older board but it supports C2D, SATA 2, runs at 1033 FSB, has Realtek ALC888 audio and Gigabit Ethernet. Not highly upgradeable and limited to 2MB ram, but so is XP (for all practical purposes), and what do you want for $50?
I'm pretty sure I'd be fine having an older board like that... for $50 I can't argue, especially since, if it will run C2D that means that the E4400 I plan to put in it can someday be an E6600 or 6550 or whatever... you know what I'm saying? I can upgrade to a high end dual core later on, and still have it run ok (at least from my understanding). If not then please let me know.
As far as being limited to 2GB, I don't intend to go over that anyway really, so it shouldn't be a problem, and again for $50 I can't really complain.
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I have to agree with everyone else. For under $400, AMD is the best choice. The good mobo's are cheaper than Intel, and their CPU's are cheaper as well.
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What jtt283 posted is a good upgrade path. However I recommend the 8600GTS video card over the X1950Pro. The former is newer and DirectX 10 compatible. The Pro is generally a little bit faster. Although I have read reviews that report the GTS is faster in some games, and in general the GTS is faster on new games while the Pro is faster on the old ones - leaving me to beleive that the Pro advantage might dwindle over time. Also I read that DVD picture quality is better with the GTS, if that is a consideration. And you can get the GTS on sale for $133 AR.
For those uses, Woody, that video card would be overkill. You could select a 2600HD or 8600GT instead.
jtt283: Could you point me to the 2600HD and which 8600GT are you referring to? All the 8600's I found were about the same price as the card listed above. Thanks
Message edited by woody240 on 09-07-2007 at 06:24:32 AM
Pous - before spending the $400 you might consider a more modest upgrade - just the PSU and AGP card. Obviously it would not give you as much of a performance increase - but it is an option, assuming your brother's MB actually has a 939 socket rather than 434. Please see this AGP upgrade post from today's forum - and particularly note the article by Cleve with benchmarks on an upgrade. Also note that since your bro's CPU is a 3200 - your performance increase should not be as constrained as the 2500 used in the review.
I'm interested in the idea of upgrading the AGP/CPU but I made a mistake, and it is actually 462 socket, and the 2.2 that's in it is the fastest cpu available for it.
The cheapest I'd be able to get out of this is to get an older socket AMD cpu/mobo with agp and DDR1 compatability, and I don't want to sacrifice performance like that to save on cost.
Message edited by pous on 09-07-2007 at 01:04:18 PM
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