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February 20, 2008 12:07:28 PM

I need as many oppinions on this one as possible please. I need to know what the best program to write zeros to my western digital sata drives would be please,,,,...... I have a bad boot sector and need to wipe both drives.

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February 20, 2008 1:02:02 PM

DBAN will be able to do that but complete the task but it will take hours...
February 20, 2008 1:09:02 PM

There's BCWipe, which can do all zeros up to DoD 7-pass standards and such. There's another one I used before called WipeDrive. I don't know if any are free or if they have trials or not. If you still can't find one, search for and download Hiren's BootCD. You just boot to it from your CD drive and then it has some wiping tools I believe. Ultimate BootCD is another option that should have some wipe appz. Good luck.
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February 20, 2008 1:54:18 PM

The UBCD doesn't have to good of options from what I read on it's site supprisenly. I am going to try the estern didigital boot cd first as they said it will work with Vista and what not and it will write zeros for me. If not then I will start trying these other programs. I appreciate the input thank you.
February 20, 2008 2:05:40 PM

Ultimate Boot CD does have 0 write tools on it.
February 20, 2008 2:20:39 PM

truehighroller said:
The UBCD doesn't have to good of options from what I read on it's site supprisenly. I am going to try the estern didigital boot cd first as they said it will work with Vista and what not and it will write zeros for me. If not then I will start trying these other programs. I appreciate the input thank you.
What? You may want to work on your reading comprehension. UBCD has Active@killdisk that will write zeros no problem. I have used it several times. It also has Memtest86+ etc.
February 20, 2008 3:22:57 PM

I'm sorry I will try it if this doesn't work then I will go to get that. I actually didn't see that listed as a program that's weird.
February 20, 2008 3:44:31 PM

truehighroller said:
I'm sorry I will try it if this doesn't work then I will go to get that. I actually didn't see that listed as a program that's weird.
Well here it is along with 4 others.


February 20, 2008 3:51:27 PM

Active@ Killdisk is good then I'm taking it?
February 20, 2008 4:50:34 PM

Yes.
February 20, 2008 5:03:00 PM

I downloaded it. :p  I am going to give it a go. I knew there had to be a good one out there some where. Thank you so much.
February 20, 2008 5:05:40 PM

If I was you I would zero write the whole drive, there is some stuff at the end. It will take a while, just let it cook.
a b G Storage
February 20, 2008 5:22:32 PM

Writing zeroes does not prevent someone frome recovering the data off of it. Use one of the more advanced options, if you want to be safe.
February 20, 2008 5:57:48 PM

Right , I just need to delete the boot table and format the drive to start all over because my boot table got corrupted that's all. I',m going to use the active@ Killdisk program.
February 20, 2008 7:14:54 PM

evongugg said:
Writing zeroes does not prevent someone frome recovering the data off of it. Use one of the more advanced options, if you want to be safe.


To recover data off a HD that has had a zero write done to it, you need at minimum a clean room and some custom equipment to read the platters after disassembling them from the HD, or a scanning tunneling electron microscope.

You're correct, it's not impossible to recover the data. But if your adversary is going to that kind of effort to recover your data, I think you may have more problems than worrying about which drive wiper you used. :o  :D 
February 20, 2008 11:36:23 PM

True that :) .

I just wanted to wipe out my boot sector and I thought about it and I know what caused this. I had, a new 780i board and had my array on it and yanked the array out and stuck it back onto my old GA-P35-DQ6 and that kind of pissed the two drives off a little. This writing zeros will wipe out the boot sector right? I noticed that it actually only shows 232 Gb out of the 250Gbs they are supposed to be a piece, according to western digital and I wanted to make sure that I'm not wasting my time here with this and it just doesn't touch the boot sector.
a b G Storage
February 21, 2008 12:22:08 AM

I agree with the programs listed by Zorg
February 21, 2008 12:28:11 AM

Its like"Killdisk" 80% done with the first drive and it has been 5 hrs . I read some where that you can actually wipe out the first 100 and something and actually get the boot sector issue resolved but, what ever this is probably best as I have had the one hard drive for awhile now and have done a lot of installs so,,. I actually answered my own question by digging deeper. It would be nice to only wipe out the beginning of the new drive and quit the program and that work though but, I don't know if that would be good enough or not.
February 21, 2008 3:11:09 AM

I have, in a pinch, run it for 5-10 minutes, which will clean it up. However, there is some data written at the end that you probably want to overwrite as well. I doubt it's a problem, but it's nice to wipe any trace and make it effectively a brand new drive.
February 21, 2008 10:04:59 AM

True I noticed when glancing back through the notes that you had mentioned that. It is cooking the other drive right now while I'm at work. The other one finished sometime last night after I went to bed :p . I would hate to have a terabyte drive and have to do this geez. This took like 10-12hrs to write and confirm all together. I appreciate the help Zorg as always.
February 22, 2008 1:21:35 AM

Guess what it was,,,,,,,, the damn drive that I bought was bad.... I still was having issues and decided to try the gigabyte raid controller instead of the intel one and it told me right away that the drive was bad. I took the drive back along with my rig to test it before I left the store and I put the new one in and it didn't complain about the new one. Grrrrrrrrrr,,, Thank you though everyone. I'm on her again right now woohoo. :p 
February 22, 2008 10:30:17 PM

Ok another update, my Silverstone Decatholon 750W power supply was zapping my drives.... I switched it out snd my problems stopped now I just wish I would have figured that out when I had my 780i because that was probably why I had so many isues with it overclocking. I noticed that when I upped my voltage to my cpu it zapped my hard drives.... on this one. It was showing lower voltages on my 780i for the cpu then what I was telling it to set them to and my other voltages were off a little to but, I though it was the voltage droop issue people talk about so much, but apparently it was the power supply the whole time.
February 23, 2008 2:57:32 PM

I'm glad you worked it out, very frustrating. I think PSU's eat more HDs then people give them credit for.
February 23, 2008 3:32:28 PM

Yah the bad thing is I think that it f^<k3d my board up now to. I was deffinately having issues with it because what I thought was vdroop obviously wasn't now I am getting consistant voltage to my CPU again. I just checked it. My Intel Raid controller is whack now I think though. It detected my dvdburner for my install and for a little while then now it just stopped detecting it. I switched to the gigabyte controller and now it is being detected again :( . I am super mad @ silverstone for this one. That power supply was only month old if that.. I am going to have to rma the board asap. Whenever that will be.. Maybe I can talk gigbyte into sending me the replacement first :) . I might be dreaming there, I don't know about their RMA rules..
February 23, 2008 3:49:45 PM

How did you pin down that it was the Silverstone that was the culprit?
February 23, 2008 3:56:07 PM

There is nothing else that can fry the hard drives like that. The raid controller only does that controlls it. I fried a second one "new one" then it fried my old one that I was never having issues with. It only did it when I upped my voltage to my "cpu" to overclock. I then started putting two and two together. When I over volted my cpu which it really wasn't giving what voltages it was supposed to.... Hence the 780i issue ... and zap went my hard drives.. I went up to Microcenter with my whole rig and replaced out the power suppply and the new hard drive that got zapped again and then checked my voltages/cranked them up and overclocked the cpu and tried to piss it off by doing reboots in the mist of installs and everything was fine,,, Windows never had any more issues saying all of a sudden that the volume was unable to be detected as a valid volume.. / the drive disapearing off the face of the MB :p . Had to have been the power supply. They would have done a test on it but, I didn't have a couple of hours to burn. I just figured if all the issues stop then that had to be what it was.
February 23, 2008 4:44:13 PM

Makes sense right lol. Your scaring me not responding here :p .
February 23, 2008 4:47:10 PM

Sorry I was reading the E8400 flame war, I needed some entertainment. Let me read your post again.
February 23, 2008 4:56:18 PM

If what you are saying is that you were eating drives and then changed out the PSU and it stopped eating them, then it sure does point to the PSU. I assume that they put these drives on another machine and they were indeed dead. I've seen junk PSUs eat drives over time or PSUs that fail and take a bunch of stuff just never a PSU that appears to be working correctly, eating drives that quickly. Overvolting the CPU would put a minuscule additional load on that PSU. If the problems have disappeared then it must be the PSU, aye?
February 23, 2008 5:07:43 PM

I have my other drive that just stopped working, that I never had problems with before that I had mentioned because, I bought it from newegg not Microcenter. I will test it Monday at work. The tech support said they were to busy at the time to test them for me but, I did mention / think of that.

The issue has stopped though yes. If it was the intel controller just corrupting the drives I wouldn't think they would just stop showing up at all on the MB you know. I know you wouldn't think that the additional load to the cpu would matter but, that's when it happened though.. I have heard of other people having that issue with PSUs though where they overvolt the cpu and zap goes the drive.

I actually probably could have taken the PSU to school and had my electronics teacher help me test it but, o well. It has stopped though ever since switching it out. I think the intel raid controller is toast now though..
February 23, 2008 5:18:43 PM

I would test the drive as you said. It may be a flaky PSU or a flaky mobo, only additional testing will tell.
February 23, 2008 5:30:35 PM

I will post on here if it works still or not after testing.
February 23, 2008 5:56:19 PM

I'll keep an eye out for it.
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