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2900pro vs 8800gts?? hmm which is better

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September 29, 2007 5:49:49 PM

which could be better? let me know u... if u really know what ur talking bout so i can decide which to get the 2900pro or the 8800gts..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 2900pro

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 8800gts




me need someones help.

ty for ur help

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a c 130 U Graphics card
September 29, 2007 6:22:04 PM

Its early days yet but i have seen some benchmarks that put the 2900 pro between the GTS and GTX as i say its early days yet so dont know how reliable the review will turn out to be untill we have some others to compare it with.The main plus for me is that it is only a failed XT part shipped under a different code so there is a fair chance it will OC to near XT speeds anyway also its a 512mb card
Mactronix
September 29, 2007 7:38:53 PM

My guess is the 2900 pro will likely beat the 8800GTS slightly.
The 2900pros will also likely improve over time.

It is rumored as Mac stated they are failed XT parts.
Over time, these will only contain a few failed XT parts.
It would not be possible for ATI to keep pace of demand other wise.

The ATI will likely use more power and be a bit louder.
It will also have a litte more potential.

If I was considering the 2900pro, I would definitely try and hold off a couple weeks. I suspect prices will drop
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September 29, 2007 9:24:19 PM

YEA SINCE THE 2900PRO IS CHEAPER SO IK IT JSUT CAME OUT SO ITS BEEN GOOD REVIEWS SO IM NOT BUYIONG YET SO
September 29, 2007 9:37:46 PM

2900 Pro all the way, most can clock to XT speeds :) .
September 29, 2007 10:46:35 PM

Help me (NOOB) out here--all the THG benchmarks I see have the 8800 GTS easily beating the 2900 XT on the whole. Am I missing something?
September 29, 2007 11:30:40 PM

The THG Benchmarks are outdated.

ATI has been releasing updated drivers that have DRASTICALLY improved it's performance.

Basically, the XT is now a match for the GTX.

If you search for reviews on the 2900Pro, you should find reviews that are using current drivers.
a c 143 U Graphics card
September 29, 2007 11:38:59 PM

Tweaktown had a long review about the HD2900Pro. It's noisier than the GTS 320, but better. I hope somebody makes a good quiet cooler for it, then it will be a very nice option.
September 29, 2007 11:53:49 PM

im getting HD2900Pro cuz its way better then the nvidia crap
September 30, 2007 12:16:30 AM

The card beats the 320MB version of the GTS with no problems at all. However, the 640MB version will beat it. But the potential for this card lies within the fact that it can over clock to XT speeds, thus giving you more performance for your buck. If the choice is between HD2900PRO and the 320MB/640MB 8800GTS, I'd personally go with the HD2900PRO, it's potential just greatly outweighs the other cards.

On a side note...

I was referring to the 512MB version of the HD2900PRO, I'm sure though, if you spent the extra money, that the 1GB version will be able to beat the 8800GTS (both versions) without overclocking, and perhaps keep up with the 8800GTX when overclocked. So take this into consideration as well.
a c 130 U Graphics card
September 30, 2007 12:27:09 AM

With referance to what zenmaster said about keeping up supply on the cards from a stock of failed XT parts the rumor is also that it is going to be a short lived edition and only there to use up the binned XT failures so they wouldnt have to keep up with demand ,dont forget they are releasing another card soon that is supposed to fit in with the X1950/8800GTS range. Yes i know its all rumor and what ifs but until its released we wont really know what it can do.
Mactronix
a c 130 U Graphics card
September 30, 2007 12:38:39 AM

To justinmcg6 7
Not sure what you are basing this on the 320 and 640 GTS is pretty much the same card in all benchmarks i have seen until you get to mega textures and resolutions.
I have no idea of how much knowledge of these things you have but it seems from reading your post that you are under the misapprehension that more ram = better card which isn't how it works.
I came to this conclusion from your post saying that the 2900pro would beat the 320 but not the 640 however running the same benchmark at the same settings unless it was optimised at the limits of the 512 on the 2900 pro which would mean the 320 was struggling and the 2900 coping then the 640 would obviously make use of the extra ram. but at normal resolutions there would be so little between the two Nvidea cards as makes no difference.
Also you seem to think that just upping the ram to 1 gig would automatically mean that all of a sudden you have a faster 2900 card but as i have tried to explain above it doesnt work like that.
If i haven't made myself clear please post and ask me to clear up any points in particular and i will be glad to.
Mactronix :) 
September 30, 2007 1:50:13 PM

justinmcg67 said:
The card beats the 320MB version of the GTS with no problems at all. However, the 640MB version will beat it. But the potential for this card lies within the fact that it can over clock to XT speeds, thus giving you more performance for your buck. If the choice is between HD2900PRO and the 320MB/640MB 8800GTS, I'd personally go with the HD2900PRO, it's potential just greatly outweighs the other cards.

On a side note...

I was referring to the 512MB version of the HD2900PRO, I'm sure though, if you spent the extra money, that the 1GB version will be able to beat the 8800GTS (both versions) without overclocking, and perhaps keep up with the 8800GTX when overclocked. So take this into consideration as well.



More VRAM will only help a card if it actaully uses it all. There will/should be no differnce between 320mb/640mb of vram against 1gb, look on the charts. A 320mb 8800 gts will beat a 640 mb most of the time at 1900x1200, even when not overclocked, when the 320 is overclocked it will surely beat it. 512mb of vram is plenty, 320mb vram is plenty at the moment, im not sure how much memory high resolution textures will use in the future.
September 30, 2007 2:19:37 PM

I was making reference to the 320MB version of the 8800GTS. As that was the card I had seen it benched against. VRAM actually does play an issue in cards; although how much one actually uses is the the question, as ShortRef stated. The reason I suggested the 1GB version of the HD2900PRO was because of the over-clocking potential for the card.

The HD2900PRO can reach XT speeds, thus allowing it to utilize that extra VRAM, much in the same way the 8800GTS w/ 640MB utilizes its large amount of VRAM. I'm not suggesting that it will use ALL of the 1GB, but I'm saying it could use up more that the standard 512MB, and anything helps.

Take over-clocking into consideration as usual and you'll find the HD2900PRO to be a much better buy. It can reach XT speeds, can have up to 1GB of VRAM, and is priced fairly well. To me, given these things, it's a better card.

But go with what you want. It's your money, spend it however you want. I for one, know that next paycheck, I'm buying an HD2900PRO.
September 30, 2007 2:34:33 PM

Just as a question to those of you that say that the 2900XT beats the GTS and is close to the GTX... and that the PRO is a better buy than the GTS...does it still not get screwed over with Anti-Aliasing..? 'Cause that was the case with the early reviews, and i thought the conclusion was that the AA frame-rate-drop was not somthing that driver revisions could wholly rectify.

So to paraphrase Justin's question... Taking Anti-aliasing into account, how does the 2900PRO fare vs the GTS then?
September 30, 2007 2:37:32 PM

Aside from the Dx10 support, is this an upgrade from a x1900xt??? everything benches it against nv8800 cards, it is hard to know exactly how it compared to a lastgen card.
September 30, 2007 3:15:12 PM

From memory, the 8800GTS is about 1.5 times as fast as an X1900XT in DX9. So yes, it is an upgrade - but then again, I don't think the OP mentioned what he was upgrading from.
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