Why do Mac's Weigh More?

Because Macs have an heat to energy condenser which is made of steal ( about a pound ) and the warp coils weight a bit too. On the bright side, this allows the system to reach warp 4, faster then and IBM clone system which is limited to impulse.

Yeah... The Dell Optiplex 740, my personal PC, my old PC (a cyberpowerpc build... first and last), dell Optiplex 560, Dell Optiplex 580, I would have to find the old Compaqs (at work we are phasing them out), from what I can understand any home dell, hp, compaq, acer, or e-machine. I am excluding the XPS from this list cause that is heavy as hell.

Maybe because there is a brick of Steve Jobs marketing **** in the bottom of every Mac?

lol, i love you guys. But na, I am seriously woundering why they are heavier. I can understand the older one that is the crt monitor and computer all in one. But even the tower (when they had just towers) is heavy. I know this can't be becuase they use better quality cause my pc has much high quality parts in it then a mac.

I am not trying to flame mac, I am actually thinking of getting a mac book in a few years if they fix their keyboard issue, cat pad (the pad use move your fingure over), and weight problem. I also don't like that they mac book is so heavy. I like the power options and that it just works. I don't like how warm they get... they feel a bit warmer then my vaio.

I am starting to think they have the golden poo brick of steve jobs marketing bs in them.

Apple makes their money on selling an image, not a quality product. While PC manufactures design a product that performs the best, Apple designs products that best fit their marketing image. Also, the vast majority of mac owners have little to no computer expertise. While we here would look for an aluminum case with one zillion fans, the mac owner would likely associate weight and swanky design with quality. Building a steel case with steel heat sinks makes sense for Apples' market, for they care much more about the way their product looks than how it performs. Because of this, Apple puts way more money in their case design relative to hardware than say dell or HP. Again, this is why, dollar for dollar, an Apple is an under performing machine compared to virtually any PC, and subsequently why macs feel like a brick compared to a PC.

95% of all PC's I've ever worked on over the last 12 years are made out of steel. Aluminium is only used in high end cases, as steel is cheaper then Aluminium.

Either produce some weight values for the products you are comparing, or forget about it. Your argument makes no sense without examples.

Look it up online, might save you some time

I work on a Dell Optiplex 740. I think the macs are a few years old. I work tomorrow and I will see if I can get a model off of them. I think one may be a G3.

The mac lappy is a 2007 mac book. It is a 14" screen that weighs as much as my 17" vaio. I just think thats odd.

They could be an aluminium skin with a steel frame. That could explain why it is so heavy.

And for the scale, I have one that we can use to see if they are heavier then a duck.

cyberjock I am was a qualified Fitter and Turner before becoming a Computer Tech. Mild steel is generally cheaper because it's easier to find and turn in to a end product.
I don't follow market prices, because they don't always show the true value and cost of getting the metal out of the ground.
When I worked for Ford Motor Co of Australia, we were involved in making Aluminium Alloy doors for the V8 Super cars we race in Australia. The Aluminium Alloy doors were much harder and dearer to make.
Most of the cases we use are cheap mild steel cases.
I've only sold 3 or 4 case that were Aluminium, including the one I'm building at the moment and it's a Thermaltake Xaser II case. Some plastic on the front but the rest is all Aluminium http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] aser6000a/

I've also sold a Basic Soprano Case which was steel and cheaper. http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake- [...] black.html
Cold rolled steal

yeah, i notice the G4 350 we have is also pretty heavy. heavier than any of the pcs ive ever handled anyhow, at least relative to its size (about as heavy as a 17" crt or so). theyre just denser overall i guess, from whatever materials they use in the casing and design (tapping against the side of the case causes more of a thud instead of a more hollow echo). whereas most of the pc cases do infact feel flimsier, but whether they are flimsier or not is a different matter. that mac is also about 7-8 years old, so, things might have changed some between then and now as far as design.

edit: googling took me here http://lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml

Size and weight

* Height: 17.0 inches (43.2 cm)
* Width: 8.9 inches (22.6 cm)
* Depth: 18.4 inches (46.7 cm)
* Weight: 30 pounds (13.6 kg)7


newer macs: http://support.apple.com/specs/macpro/Mac_Pro.html

Size and weight

* Height: 20.1 inches (51.1 cm)
* Width: 8.1 inches (20.6 cm)
* Depth: 18.7 inches (47.5 cm)
* Weight (standard configuration): 42.4lbs (19.2 kg)

so, the size increased some, mostly in height, and the weight added another 12 pounds, i guess without any addons, also depending on whatever other materials too.

i think the G3s are probably about the same as the G4s as far as design, and probably weight then too, but the G5s i dunno. yeah, it think the only problem is that the gpus need a bios flash to work in a mac to work with the MB, otherwise youll probably come up with a blank screen or something... dont know why thats needed, probably to help keep tech support narrowed if anything, to a few select pieces of hardware, just like with the OS, support is narrowed to keep troubleshooting and maintainance simpler i would think. and anything outside of that is unsupported. makes things easier... but you dont have nearly as many choices either, unfortunately.

as far as which cards are supported, they have gaming gpus that simply underperform (a 1900xt isnt bad though, tbh)... maybe just due to the smaller selection of games in general, so gaming isnt a top priority, maybe, cant see how it would make sense for them to do that otherwise... ...and the other extreme, they have non gaming gpus, that cost a lot more than any single gaming gpu available. (quadro fx 4500 is around ~$1000-2100+ on google, but its one of their choices too)