Nvidia 9000 series?

Does anyone know when the 9000's are coming out? And does anyone know what price range they will be in?

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same price as the 8800's that came out last year

and no one knows when the cards are coming out but Nvidia a while ago said they would release new line of cards every year, so if that statement runs true we should expect them around December

Message edited by Maverick7 on 09-30-2007 at 09:35:27 AM

Reply to Maverick7

Normally I would agree with them coming out around december but I would have expected to at least have a little info on the 9000 series card by now if that was true. I think they are probally going to put off releasing the 9000 series till mid next year since while the 8800 ultra cant max out every games graphics wise right now (at extreme res of course) that there is no calling for an even faster card right now and of course they have no competition right now at the high end anyway.

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heard first quarter of 2008 and about same price as 8800s when they were new.

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I heard:

Nov
Dec
Q1 2008
Q2 2008
2nd Half 2008

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biohazard420420 wrote :

Normally I would agree with them coming out around december but I would have expected to at least have a little info on the 9000 series card by now if that was true.

Last year, the 8800's came out in November, there was no official word from Nvidia till late october. All the rumours have said that SOMETHING is coming out in November so I'd expect to hear something official over the next 3 weeks.

Reply to andybird123

Well, AMD will present its new line, RV670 (HD2950) at the of november so I don't think NVidia will just stand in the corner watching during holiday season. I think we should all be expecting something (I believe it will be mid-high end, like an 8700 cad) by the end of this year.

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Reply to blashyrkh

Mid-range card would be nice from Nvidia. Those 8600xxx suck.

Reply to Zeka

I just want a card that will be DX 10.1 compatible.

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Reply to physx7

i want a card that will run Crysis at high resolutions and totally max settings with no lag and 40+ fps

Message edited by Maverick7 on 10-03-2007 at 05:55:06 PM

Reply to Maverick7

Hmmm...I just ordered an 8800GTX. ...I have an 8600GT right now that is...well, useless for gaming. Should I cancel the 8800GTX and wait?

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Reply to halcyon

Yes, you should.

Reply to nukchebi0

NewEgg already shipped, they're too fast. Oh well the GTX should at least be decent, I'm not a big gamer anyways.

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Reply to halcyon

There are normally some leaks of information. There have only been ones from theinquirer.net.

Don't hold your breath or anything... no one knows what may be popping out... or not.

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Reply to spaztic7

halcyon wrote :

NewEgg already shipped, they're too fast. Oh well the GTX should at least be decent, I'm not a big gamer anyways.

consider a rma for it have been said that ati has a nice refresh coming soon that might be worth waiting for. seriously.
you would save a little i think (maybe hundreds) and have a much less hungry and noisy and heaty card.

by the way the gtx is a big gamer card (or big pocket card)

lets face it. the gtx is just an abnormally sized card not meant to make money with. it s just like the cadillac escalade.

Message edited by pidesd on 10-03-2007 at 08:17:30 PM

Reply to pidesd

LOL, I just went with the GTX so I could actually function in games I might try. It seemed like the best solution for 2500x1600 for less than $550.

However, if ATi or nVidia come out with something nicer w/in the next 2 months, then I'll know what to ask the wife to give me $$ towards for Xmas.

...besides its gonna be cold before too long, the GTX will serve as a nice space heater.

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Message edited by halcyon on 10-03-2007 at 08:42:34 PM

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SpeedyVV wrote :

I heard:

Nov
Dec
Q1 2008
Q2 2008
2nd Half 2008

LOL, how true that is

Halcyon - don't send it back - no-one knows for sure what is coming out, when, or how well it will perform.

Just look at the HD2900PRO - that surprised everyone.

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Reply to ethel

halcyon wrote :

LOL, I just went with the GTX so I could actually function in games I might try. It seemed like the best solution for 2500x1600 for less than $550.

However, if ATi or nVidia come out with something nicer w/in the next 2 months, then I'll know what to ask the wife to give me $$ towards for Xmas.

...besides its gonna be cold before too long, the GTX will serve as a nice space heater.

for something that performs well it sure does!

the only good thing i find good about the gtx which is totally personal is that indeed it would serves as a nice source of heat during those cold days

Message edited by pidesd on 10-03-2007 at 08:56:09 PM

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Oh, I'm gonna keep it, I don't need to have the very best graphics card, anyways, ...just wanted to try gaming @ high res on the 30". If it doesn't fit in my Thermaltake Mozart TX case (yes, I did measure) then the Dell XPS600 will be getting a nice upgrade.

...now if these new cards from ATi and nVidia are single-slot designs and way cooler (spelled quieter) and less power hungry then I'll definitely have a reason to look into that when the time comes.

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ethel wrote :

LOL, how true that is

Halcyon - don't send it back - no-one knows for sure what is coming out, when, or how well it will perform.

Just look at the HD2900PRO - that surprised everyone.

true but but it s kind of foolish to think the 2900xt was a long term solution. i think that it s the same situation for the 2900 pro too. they were never meant to be money trees i think.

Message edited by pidesd on 10-03-2007 at 09:03:13 PM

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I was really considering an 2900Pro 1GB but by the time I made up my mind The Egg was sold out. I think the GTX will outperform it nicely (heck for $140 more, it damned well better) and be quieter (possibly, or am I dreaming?)

...but the 8800GT that I saw a pic of was a nice looking piece, indeed.

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Reply to halcyon

well you have some time to think about it but i doubt the 8800gt would handle 25*16 easily...

but maybe a x2950xt for a chunk less?

oh by the way i once did some math on how much i saved with a good power supply compared to a generic one. and let me tell you that the efficient one was worth every penny. i would save the totality of the cost of my psu in 5 years in terms of electricity bill. and the difference in watts equal to around 60 watts, something similar or even less ( i didnt remember the numbers exactly) compared to the video card market in terms of consumption if we compare lets say a 8800 gtx to a a 7900gt.

just something to keep in mind IMO

Message edited by pidesd on 10-03-2007 at 09:33:20 PM

Reply to pidesd

Maybe. I'm kinda of prejudiced toward nVidia. If an ATI card performs 5% better and cost the same or less then that'd be an eye opener for me. ...I've read that these 2900Pros are really something ATI should be proud of so I was ready to take a risk, but I went with the old safety blanket anyways. ...and no, it's not because I hate the red PCB. ...had a bad experience with some ATI drivers a while back.

So, this x2590XT, think it'll render a GTX impetent? (Be faster and cooler and quieter?) That'd get my attention no doubt...if nVidia didn't have an immediate answer to it, that is. Heck in that case I'd not care if the PCB was rainbow colored.

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Message edited by halcyon on 10-03-2007 at 09:28:35 PM

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http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] 0-november

check this out.well we never for sure when it ll come out you know how it is but still... it looks like amd is getting to something.

well nobody knows about how well it will perform but given that the architecture is the same... with a die shrink to 55 instead of 80... it just bodes well. nvidia by then might have released a card too if you prefer nvidia but i have no info on that.

Reply to pidesd

Could be quite slick, I'll keep an eye out for that too. I have a 360 Elite (so I could play AC6 when its released) and I'm really looking forward to seeing how much better PC gaming experience is on a reasonable rig. My inference is that the recent PC cards either give the 360 a run or munch on it totally.

It'd be nice to see the new cards be a lot cooler and quieter than the current, 'cuz at least my 360 is relatively quiet.

...off topic, sorry.

Reply to halcyon

if i can give you an idea the card in the 360 is similar to the x1900xt from what i heard.

what concerns the reasonable rig well a new one would certainly cost more than a 360. the things i find good about pc gaming is that you can can upgrade part by part and that you have an all in one machine. also if you have a relatively new pc and one day you decide you want nice graphics in games well for not that much you can get a video card that will trounce anything on consoles

Message edited by pidesd on 10-03-2007 at 10:24:35 PM

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The 9800 cards from NVIDIA are way over priced. You can get an ATI version for less then $100.

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Reply to halcyon

shoulda bought an evga branded 8800gtx...that way you can step-up withing 3 months which covers you through Christmas (that's right, i spelled it out and didnt say x-mas, eff you liberal bleeding heart idiots) that's how i got my 8800gts 640MB, traded in my 7900gs and sold the other one (and then paid out the nose to have it overnighted for a lan party...damn my ego

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Reply to jrnyfan

halcyon wrote :

???

lol, he means the ATI 9 series, they are old now from more than 2 years ago IIRC. they were the ones befoe the x series.

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Aaaaah.

Reply to halcyon

physx7 wrote :

I just want a card that will be DX 10.1 compatible.

The HD 2900XT is already "mostly" 10.1 compatible.
Just wait a month or two for the HD 2950XT

About the Nv 9000? I really didn't hear any solid news on how good the 9000 series is or how much better than the 8800 GTX.
I'm personally waiting until the end if 2008. By then there R700/g100 will be out,. Major improvements by then.

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halcyon wrote :

Maybe. I'm kinda of prejudiced toward nVidia. If an ATI card performs 5% better and cost the same or less then that'd be an eye opener for me. ...I've read that these 2900Pros are really something ATI should be proud of so I was ready to take a risk, but I went with the old safety blanket anyways. ...and no, it's not because I hate the red PCB. ...had a bad experience with some ATI drivers a while back.

So, this x2590XT, think it'll render a GTX impetent? (Be faster and cooler and quieter?) That'd get my attention no doubt...if nVidia didn't have an immediate answer to it, that is. Heck in that case I'd not care if the PCB was rainbow colored.

Remember when the 2900XT first came out? Amazing specs but speed fell short. I think the x2590XT is what the 2900XT should have been, fully uncorked, and a screamer. I just need to see the texture fill rate to confirm this.

Reply to enewmen

I was under the impression that the 2900XT was still a dragon of a card, I almost went with one. I'll look forward to seeing the face-offs between the 2950 and whatever nVidia decides to come up with. ...but it may be a while before I replace the GTX, unless its just too hot and just too noisy.

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Ya guys think that the 9800GTX will be 2times faster than the 8800GTX? And do you think that the ATI's refresh would be worth considering?

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Reply to Evilonigiri

I'm sure ATI's refresh will be worth considering. Is a 8800GTX 2X faster than a 7800GTX?

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Reply to halcyon

i think when it will apear it will cost ~1000 bux and it will have at least 768 or 1 Gb !!!! thats waat i think when it will appera i will buy it thats for shore no matter how much it will cost hope every one will have by onee ov those...
to Halcyon of course 8800GTX is faster.

Reply to gamer_x_4

The 2X question was mostly facetious and rhetorical. I guess everyone has their limits. There's no gaming GPU that they can make that's worth $1K to me...but I guess if $$ was irrelevant than I'd feel different (I still have to work for a living, pathetic, I know). Now, if I were a professional gamer making $$ with these toys, well, then its an investment...a tax write-off. :pfff:

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Message edited by halcyon on 10-04-2007 at 02:47:37 PM

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Evilonigiri wrote :

Ya guys think that the 9800GTX will be 2times faster than the 8800GTX? And do you think that the ATI's refresh would be worth considering?

I don't know any solid info that the 9800GTX is 2x faster than the 8800GTX. I think the ATI refresh is worth considering.
Anyway, I will wait a month, by then lots of things should be cleared up.

Reply to enewmen

halcyon wrote :

The 2X question was mostly facetious and rhetorical. I guess everyone has their limits. There's no gaming GPU that they can make that's worth $1K to me...but I guess if $$ was irrelevant than I'd feel different (I still have to work for a living, pathetic, I know). Now, if I were a professional gamer making $$ with these toys, well, then its an investment...a tax write-off. :pfff:

No video card is worth $1k. No matter how awesome. If there was such a card 4 years ahead of it's time, there will be no software that can use it. You will just have a very expensive demo.

There are some "workstation" cards that cost more than $1k. But those are mainly for rendering fast in wireframe mode. I don't think such a card is even needed anymore. Then there are industrial cards that record directly to film, useless you want to make expensive movies.

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Reply to spaztic7

halcyon wrote :

I'm sure ATI's refresh will be worth considering. Is a 8800GTX 2X faster than a 7800GTX?

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html

Reply to pidesd

enewmen wrote :

No video card is worth $1k. No matter how awesome. If there was such a card 4 years ahead of it's time, there will be no software that can use it. You will just have a very expensive demo.

There are some "workstation" cards that cost more than $1k. But those are mainly for rendering fast in wireframe mode. I don't think such a card is even needed anymore. Then there are industrial cards that record directly to film, useless you want to make expensive movies.

it wouldn t surprise me to see 1k+ video cards in the future. well some day we ll have to power those games on a 32*20 resolutions and 50 inch lcds no? and it ll look so good that it will be worth more than that for a couple of folks

Message edited by pidesd on 10-04-2007 at 06:19:57 PM

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halcyon wrote :

I was really considering an 2900Pro 1GB but by the time I made up my mind The Egg was sold out. I think the GTX will outperform it nicely (heck for $140 more, it damned well better) and be quieter (possibly, or am I dreaming?)

...but the 8800GT that I saw a pic of was a nice looking piece, indeed.

If you find the GTX too loud (most don't but I did), then fork out for a Thermalright HR-03 and a nice quiet fan (http://www.silentpcreview.com) and you will have a blissfully quiet but fast card.

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ethel wrote :

If you find the GTX too loud (most don't but I did), then fork out for a Thermalright HR-03 and a nice quiet fan (http://www.silentpcreview.com) and you will have a blissfully quiet but fast card.

How do you upgrade a video card fan/heatsinks?
I hear this done, but I have no idea how this is even possible.
I think overclocking requires special software.

I also think only special cards can accept liquid cooling.

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replacing the gpu cooling isnt too difficult, about as difficult as installing a 3rd party cpu cooler (some involve replacing the motherboard cpu hs mount). the 3rd party solution should include instructions on whats involved though. for instance, the stock cooler on my 7800gt was just too loud, so i ended up replacing it with a zalman cooler. the temperatures arent really all that much lower, but the noise level certainly is... which is all i really cared about at that point.

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I think this is the info that everyone is looking for:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] &Itemid=34

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January?

Our sources have confirmed that Nvidia said that the D8E – Desktop 8th generation Enthusiast dual PCB, dual chip product comes in 2008 and not in November like many previously expected.

Nvidia simply can't get it ready in time. the D8M – Mainstream and the D8V – Value parts are going to be 65 nanometre and ready for November.

The D8E will be a GX2 like card with two PCBs and two chips and many power connectors. It will launch very early in Q1 which indicates January or February as a possible date.

The funny thing is that the dual RV670 card comes at the same time and it will be fun to see who will be better.

Personally I would hold off on any Nvidia product right now. The HD2950XT coming in Mid-November looks like it is going to be a barn burner. HALF the energy consumption of the current 2900XT built on the 55nm process. And it looks like it is going to have no competition from Nvidia either until 2008.

Everything is right on schedule too. I think the production delays that AMD/ATI suffered over the last 12 months during the merger is finally over now that the growing pains are out of the way.

The price on the HD 2950 series is going to probably make ATI a catergory leader again in the Enthuiast Gaming Market. ATI is going to cash in on Christmas this year. Read the specs on the HD 2950 series. It is impressive.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6873.html

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halcyon wrote :

Hmmm...I just ordered an 8800GTX. ...I have an 8600GT right now that is...well, useless for gaming. Should I cancel the 8800GTX and wait?

Absolutely not. The 8800GTX will play Crysis with amazing graphics. There is NO point in waiting for a product that A.) has not been announced B.) its release date is purely speculation C.) pricing is entirely based off of opinion

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Rwayne wrote :

Personally I would hold off on any Nvidia product right now. The HD2950XT coming in Mid-November looks like it is going to be a barn burner. HALF the energy consumption of the current 2900XT built on the 55nm process. And it looks like it is going to have no competition from Nvidia either until 2008.

Everything is right on schedule too. I think the production delays that AMD/ATI suffered over the last 12 months during the merger is finally over now that the growing pains are out of the way.

The price on the HD 2950 series is going to probably make ATI a catergory leader again in the Enthuiast Gaming Market. ATI is going to cash in on Christmas this year. Read the specs on the HD 2950 series. It is impressive.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,6873.html

I have seen nothing to suggest that the HD 2950 will outperform the GTX / Ultra in DX10 - it is based on the same architecture as the 2900XT, with a slightly faster clock and faster memory. Sure it will have less power consumption and some new features such as DX10.1 support, but it needs a big performance leap too. Remember that the 2900XT currently performs poorly in DX10 compared to the GTX / Ultra so there is a lot of ground to make up.

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