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The Best Gaming Graphics Cards For The Money: October 2007

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October 1, 2007 10:24:49 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/01/the_best_gaming_graphics_cards_for_the_money/index.html

Detailed graphics card specifications and reviews are great - that is, if you have the time to do the research. But at the end of the day, what a gamer needs is the best graphics card within a certain budget.
October 1, 2007 11:27:18 AM

Anybody had any luck finding a 2900 PRO?
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October 1, 2007 1:13:05 PM

Any chance the intel integrated chipsets are going onto the summary chart at the last page? (somewhere at the bottom)

My new office is in on the way, and I'd kind of like to know how bad the gma 3100 is if I were to suddenly pop a game onto it (hp dc7800 with Q35 chipset)
October 1, 2007 6:21:44 PM

For AGP, why not also include the Visiontek's Radeon HD cards for AGP. You can get up to a 2600XT from them. Are they the only ones doing DirectX 10 in AGP?
October 1, 2007 6:23:36 PM

When I was looking for AGOP cards I didn't find any 2600 XT's for sale yet, only 2600 PROs.

Depending on the price when they're available, I might recommend the AGP 2600 XT.
October 1, 2007 6:38:04 PM

I'm kicking myself in the nuts for just buying an 8800 GTS 320 MB when I could of gotten 2600 PRO. Although I'm curious as to what people are getting for benches on the 2600 PRO and whether or not it does in fact out perform the 8800 GTS.
October 1, 2007 6:43:40 PM

There are alot of benches out there, just Google them.

The short answer is that it outperforms the GTS 320 - especially at high resolutions. I wouldn't say it outperforms the GTX, although in a specific bench or two it might beat it.
October 1, 2007 6:54:00 PM

|Personally id put the 2900pro down with teh gx2 and 1950xt, because i isnt quite up to 2900xt specs and u cant base that on OC'ing.
October 1, 2007 6:54:28 PM

deathblooms2k1 said:
I'm kicking myself in the nuts for just buying an 8800 GTS 320 MB when I could of gotten 2600 PRO. Although I'm curious as to what people are getting for benches on the 2600 PRO and whether or not it does in fact out perform the 8800 GTS.


Im confused - 2600 or 2900?

I've only seen on NCIX (canada), the 2900PRO is way below (30$~) the 8800GTS 320MB, which is a steal!
October 1, 2007 6:58:25 PM

I meant 2900. Can I get some links to some unbiased benches for these cards... I do acknowledge that "unbiased benches" is pretty much an oxy-moron.
October 1, 2007 7:01:46 PM

Hatman said:
|Personally id put the 2900pro down with teh gx2 and 1950xt, because i isnt quite up to 2900xt specs and u cant base that on OC'ing.


Well, specwise they're identical in alot of ways: same numbers of unified shaders, 512-bit memory interface and 512mb of RAM.

Even though the clock speed is lower, testing shows them to be faster than the 8800 GTS 320MB which is on the same tier... so I think they're well placed where they are. :) 
October 1, 2007 7:02:19 PM

Valid enough reason for me.
October 1, 2007 7:05:52 PM

Anyone think the prices are going to fluctuate on these? I am thinking about buying the one on the egg for $270 shipped. Seems like a good deal and I can crossfire them later.
October 1, 2007 7:12:38 PM

IMHO, the prices will remain stable - maybe dropping $5/month or so unless a new card in the price segment is released.

I can't see Nvidia or Ati wanting to start a price war with these cards. But who knows?
October 1, 2007 8:13:19 PM

I agree. Seems sensible from a business stand point. Well, I think I am going to order one today.
a b U Graphics card
October 1, 2007 8:54:49 PM

As to AGP you never mentioned Gaineswood/Bliss. I know they are not common but..? I have one of the cards. It is in fact a 7800 with all pipelines open. It can be overclocked to match any of the o.c.'d factory cards and performs better. I run Oblivion, FarCry and a host of others with usable frame rates and performance. I think it is the best AGP card, if you can find one.
October 1, 2007 9:17:18 PM

An X1950 PRO will beat a gainward bliss 7800, and costs less from what I've seen.

The X1950 XT will beat the snot out of them both.
October 1, 2007 9:19:51 PM

7950gt is the best agp card available atm.
October 1, 2007 9:46:16 PM

No... once again, the X1950 XT is the best AGP card available. It's not even much of a contest.

It easily beats the 7950 GT.




[edit]
Benches are hard to find for this card, but I did find a 3dMark 05 bench:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1030874771&postcoun...

3dMark 05 results:
AGP 7950 GT: 8396
AGP X1950 XT: 9617

Now, 3dMark isn't an ideal bench but we can see the cards have a similar spread as they do on the PCIe bus. Look for any PCIe bus review of the 7950 GT vs. the X1950 XT, and you'll see the X1950 walking away with higher resolutions and eye candy...
October 1, 2007 10:02:58 PM

Hatman said:
7950gt is the best agp card available atm.


Many people are unaware of the existence of the GeCube X1950XT AGP, so no, the X1950XT is the best AGP card (Expensive too).
October 1, 2007 10:35:21 PM

I stand corrected, I was one of those unaware of it :D 
October 2, 2007 3:49:50 AM

I wonder how my overclocked 8800GTS 320MB will stand up to a stock 2900Pro. It runs at 580/1800 up from 500/1600. Thinking of selling it and getting the 2900Pro... it's only like a month old and I might even make a small profit... and hopefully the extra RAM on the 2900Pro will help me down the road.
October 2, 2007 5:11:02 AM

Seems like a waste of effort to me. The 2900 pro is probably only marginally faster, and the time to install + ebay off your current card really isn't worth the effort. I'd be happy with what you've got until something significantly better is released, and only if you need it to play a game. The 512mb only matters if you're running really high resolutions, like over 1280x1024.
October 2, 2007 6:12:23 AM

For the part where it was stated that there is no PCI-E for ~200 well pretty soon you can add the 2900GT for that spot. ^_^
a b U Graphics card
October 2, 2007 6:41:34 AM

[Looking for a steal]

Any of you guys selling off your GTS's for the 2900 pro? Maybe for say... 150? :kaola: 

[/Looking for a steal]
a b U Graphics card
October 3, 2007 6:42:05 AM

Right then, down to business ;) 
October 5, 2007 4:45:38 PM

is this some kinda JOKE ..

The Best Gaming Graphics Cards For The Money: October 2007
Don Woligroski
October 1, 2007 06:25

PCI-Express Interface
Best PCI-E Card For Under $100
Radeon X1650 GT
Codename: RV560
Process: 80nm
Pixel Shaders: 24
Vertex Shaders: 6
Texture Units: 8
ROPs: 8
Memory Bus: 128-bit
Core Speed MHz: 400
Memory Speed MHz: 400 (800 effective)
DirectX / Shader Model DX 10 / SM 4.0

i cannot find this graphic card ne where on he internet where it says Directx10 Supported with SM4.0 :) )

i don't know all these reviews .. the only thing i got is this
this link>>> http://www.pricerunner.com/cl/37/Video-Cards?a_861=Rade...
and this link >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

where it both shows that it supports Directx10 with SM3.0
so i need you guys to help me out why its there on the main page of graphic card october issue...

is that right if yes plz give me the link where i can find the Radeon X1650 GT with directx 10 and sm4.0 support i need to buy it..
October 5, 2007 5:02:37 PM

hmm... I think you may have found a typo there, Get your act together Cleeve :p  (j/k I make more typos than that in my average post)
October 5, 2007 5:38:30 PM

:o 
so what shud we believe the whole thing is a crap.. this article doesn't have ne sense or wht..? b'coz as it have a typo mistake so tht take the whole thing is out of order... so i think the adminstrator shud check this error and take the necessary action to correct the mistake

:hello:  i hope it will be done coz many users have the difficulty as they ill be misguided.
October 5, 2007 6:42:25 PM

cvladan said:
is this some kinda JOKE ..

is that right if yes plz give me the link where i can find the Radeon X1650 GT with directx 10 and sm4.0 support i need to buy it..


It's a typo. Should be DirectX 9.b and SM 3.0 support

Thanks for pointing it out... now you can relax a bit. :D 
October 5, 2007 7:04:01 PM

:lol: 
October 6, 2007 4:46:43 PM

It's OEM, they don't list OEM.
October 6, 2007 5:37:00 PM

Plus the price has fluctuated in the last 2 weeks almost every other day.
started at $99.00
after everyone started buying it $109.00
2 days later when no one bought it back to $99.00
then it went to $94.99
then to $89.99
down to $84.99 (for like 6 hours)
today $89.99

give him a break
October 9, 2007 4:33:42 PM

zenmaster said:
Why is the X1900GT not listed in your "Best Value" for XXX?


Because prices change on a daily basis, while I only release the article once per month.

There are all sorts of caveats to that effect in the article. :) 
October 9, 2007 4:58:06 PM

cleeve said:
There are all sorts of caveats to that effect in the article. :) 

Apparently not enough of them... :pt1cable: 
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