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Grrr
So ive had a few lcds in my time, not counting tv's...
1xAcer 15"
3xBenQ 17"
3x Samsung 19-20"
1x Acer 19"

2 BenQs died and were replaced under warranty
Now my 19" acer ws only 18months old is showing bad signs of burn-in :fou:
Its something im really aware of and have always set screen savers to 3-5min max, so this just p!$$3$ me off.
Even better is no one, even the authorised repairer seem to know what burn in is, or if its covered.
Niice. Hi 5s for being at the top of your game in your job.
Fkn idiots.

Oh, and in the 12million pixels ive owned, only 2 have died :)


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I have the same problem, all you got to due to get rid of the temp burn-in is unplug you LCD for a week if its as bad as you say. I must unplug my Nec LCD weekly to get rid of the burn-in. They make them cheep now days.


Message edited by systemlord on 10-04-2007 at 01:12:54 PM

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That's crazy, why use screensaver? Why not let it power off?

I never got what screensavers were for... except using the text one to leave people messages haha..

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hehe, screensavers are a hold over from when the PC couldnt turn the monitor off via powersavings (talking late 80's-early90's).

burn in on an lcd.. hmm that is actually new to me, and I have been servicing monitors (including lcd's) for over 15 yrs. now, with the cheap ass lcd panels now, it is possible for some pixels to get sluggish, ie kinda stuck, and as mentioned earlier, disconnecting the power should fix it.

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I thought burnin only affected CRTs... (and plasma TVs to some extent)

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michiganteddybear wrote :

hehe, screensavers are a hold over from when the PC couldnt turn the monitor off via powersavings (talking late 80's-early90's).

burn in on an lcd.. hmm that is actually new to me, and I have been servicing monitors (including lcd's) for over 15 yrs. now, with the cheap ass lcd panels now, it is possible for some pixels to get sluggish, ie kinda stuck, and as mentioned earlier, disconnecting the power should fix it.



My burn-in only happens in the lower lefthand corner of my LCD, and only take one hour to do so. :pfff:


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Are you sure it is burn in? I am under the idea that LCD's can't burn in.


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spaztic7 wrote :

Are you sure it is burn in? I am under the idea that LCD's can't burn in.



They can't burn-in, but sometimes the pixels get stuck but not burned in.


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This is new news to me, as well. I was under the impression that LCDs were immune to burn-in. That's always been one of their major strong-points for me. Hmmmm....

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Are you guys saying I need to use a screensaver, even if my monitors are LCD?

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No what they are saying is there is NO need for a screensaver. That you should just use the Power Saving Feature and shut the monitor OFF after 10-15mins of not using the computer. Easy on the monitor no need to worry...


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mrmez wrote :

Grrr
So ive had a few lcds in my time, not counting tv's...
1xAcer 15"
3xBenQ 17"
3x Samsung 19-20"
1x Acer 19"

2 BenQs died and were replaced under warranty
Now my 19" acer ws only 18months old is showing bad signs of burn-in :fou:
Its something im really aware of and have always set screen savers to 3-5min max, so this just p!$$3$ me off.
Even better is no one, even the authorised repairer seem to know what burn in is, or if its covered.
Niice. Hi 5s for being at the top of your game in your job.
Fkn idiots.

Oh, and in the 12million pixels ive owned, only 2 have died :)



Your LCD is not Burnt in or burning in, the actual term is for LCD's is called Persistence of Image. If a background, taskbar or whatever is on in the same position for a long time, the next time you turn your LCD on or change screens a ghost image may appear on your screen. This looks like burn in but its not.

If you where to invert the colors of your taskbar, or image background or leave your LCD off for more than 24hrs or so the pixels would reset back to original and the image will dissappear. So its not really permenant.

If you invert your background image it forces the pixels the other way and works to "negate" the image persistance.

Not all LCD's do this as bad as others. My Westy kinda of does this but not nearly as bad as my old Westy used to. Leaving it off for a good long period of time would fix it but it can be annoying.


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warezme, thanks for coming up with the technical term I couldn't when I was posting earlier. that happens when the eye's are barely open, and the brain is yet to start functioning.

but that is exactly what I was trying to get across. Not burn in, just the persistance problem.

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Ok... good, I was going to say, If they can burn in... we have all been lied to.

So.... just make sure you dont let you lcd monitor sit for to long of you will start ghosting. k...


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Thanks for the replys.
Yeah wasnt sure if 'burn-in' was the correct term... but it explains whats happening.

It happens mainly up the top, the bottom of the top section of the firefox browser, its like got white borders, when i click to desktop i can see white lines there grrr.
Happens after 2-3 minutes.

Doesnt happen on any other LCD i have so its either a sus panel or acer are $h!t.

Eithe way its pretty irritating.

Acer sucks teh bag.


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I was getting a little freaked out by the whole LCD burn in thing as I too was under the impression it was limited to CRT and plasma. Persistence of Image, interesting. I wonder if it is all Acer LCDs of your model, or whether you just got a defective unit, 2-3 minutes is way too short. Acer is out, better safe then sorry.

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I have left my screen on for hours. Damn power save did not happen....seems to do this now and then.....never did nothing...hell left CRT's on for 2-3 hours without burn in(or Persistence)......maybe i am just lucky?

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nukemaster wrote :

I have left my screen on for hours. Damn power save did not happen....seems to do this now and then.....never did nothing...hell left CRT's on for 2-3 hours without burn in(or Persistence)......maybe i am just lucky?

The "newer" :lol: CRTs were less subject to burn in, and 2-3 hours wont burn in the old CRTs. I do remember the Eagle III days when the machine would get left on overnight too often etc. after a while they would burn in.


Message edited by Zorg on 10-05-2007 at 08:40:31 AM
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Just out of curiosity can anyone tell me the brand and model #'s of the any LCDs you've had that appear "burned in"? Even better if you can me if it's a TN, MVA, or IPS Panel?

Also does anyone know how MVA or IPS works?

I've seen articles on TN aligning crystals in a twisted structure that channels light, but diffuses when voltage is applied. Which is why TN gets "stuck" pixels, where IPS and MVA can only have dead pixels. I've never seen anything explaining the technology behind MVA and IPS.

Also can you tell me if the "burn in" makes the screen brighter or darker?


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Burn in on lcd? I dunno man, maybe backlighting is uneven?


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