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i'm at the crossroads here people. so close when it comes to pricing but which is the better buy?

Tom's CPU chart clearly favors the 6750 but i'm thinking with the 6000+ running at 3GHz, instead of 2.66GHz, it will be faster for gaming?
And i'm not talking Solitaire people, more like Oblivion, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and Crysis. I need to improve my min FPS to 40. My current Athlon 64 3500+ only gives 20+ FPS. :(
Plus we're talking bout the fastest mainstream CPU from AMD here, shouldn't that say something? or does the Core 2 Duo really kicks 64 X2's ass?

I'll be gettin a new mobo and a Kingston HyperX 2x1gb pc6400 kit.
I'm sticking with my current Galaxy 7900 GS 256MB 540 MHz/1500 MHz since i couldn't care less bout DX10, for now anyway, since its too freakin' expensive! Not now but the 8800GTX 768mb or the 2900XT 512mb is definitely down the road. Plus i only play at 1280*1024, so the 7900 GS should suffice, it's just that i haven't been able to push it to its max with my crappy 3500+

I ain't rich, so wat i do is upgrade my system partially, just enough to play the current games.

Please advise this confused soul.




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Are you willing to overclock?

Of the twoI would definatly get the E6750

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or does the Core 2 Duo really kicks 64 X2's ass?



Well, no offense, but the fact that the core 2 chips are kicking AMDs ass has been the biggest tech story of the last year. They kick em clock for clock and they also overclock much higher. No contest. Just read the tech sites a little longer before you pull the trigger.

The only thing to say in AMDs favor is that they have lowered prices to the point that $ for $ they are competitve, unless you are going to OC, in which case they fall way behind in price/performance too.

I know, AMD was the performance king for so long that it's kind of hard to believe the tables have turned, but turned the tables have.

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E6750 > E6600 > X2 6000

E6600 and X2 600 perform closely to each other , but E6600 wins almost in every app/game

It isnt even a bit imporatn if u are going to OC or not , because E6750 wins X2 6000 in every benchmark and also it OC's alot better than X2 6000 too , so definitely go for E6750

7900GS is a good card for 1280x1024 , but i couldnt Play DIRT and LOST PLANET : EXTREME condtion maxed out with my 7900GTX 512 , i had to lower down some settings


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Is there any reason you are spending extra money on the overpriced Kingston ram when you could buy generic DDR800 and not notice a bit of difference... assuming it works at all.


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Is there any reason you are spending extra money on the overpriced Kingston ram when you could buy generic DDR800 and not notice a bit of difference... assuming it works at all.


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that was weird???


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djcoolmasterx wrote :

Are you willing to overclock?

Of the twoI would definatly get the E6750



Nope, i'm not savvy or gutsy enough for that. stock speed suffices.

E6750, huh? predictable. :)


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or does the Core 2 Duo really kicks 64 X2's ass?



Well, no offense, but the fact that the core 2 chips are kicking AMDs ass has been the biggest tech story of the last year. They kick em clock for clock and they also overclock much higher. No contest. Just read the tech sites a little longer before you pull the trigger.

The only thing to say in AMDs favor is that they have lowered prices to the point that $ for $ they are competitve, unless you are going to OC, in which case they fall way behind in price/performance too.

I know, AMD was the performance king for so long that it's kind of hard to believe the tables have turned, but turned the tables have.



none taken. it's just that i have a soft spot for AMD. i remember seeing the AMD Athlon 64Bit X2 4400+ in late `06 and it was pricey. wanted one n now that i can afford one, there's a AMD Athlon 64Bit X2 6000+ for a much, much lower price!!!

Plus the 3GHz vs. 2.66GHZ thingy but yeah,... i know bout the benchmarks.


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Maziar wrote :

E6750 > E6600 > X2 6000

E6600 and X2 600 perform closely to each other , but E6600 wins almost in every app/game

It isnt even a bit imporatn if u are going to OC or not , because E6750 wins X2 6000 in every benchmark and also it OC's alot better than X2 6000 too , so definitely go for E6750

7900GS is a good card for 1280x1024 , but i couldnt Play DIRT and LOST PLANET : EXTREME condtion maxed out with my 7900GTX 512 , i had to lower down some settings



thanks for the info man. actually wanted the E6600 earlier this year but now that we have the E6750, i feel lucky a hell? :)

Thanks for the compliment on the 7900GS, i purposely spelled it out there hoping to see whether anyone will bad mouth it, but a praise? i'm flattered! Galaxy's was the fastest, God knows the amount of research i did for that.

Man oh man, look at your spec! (U dont work at OCZ, do you? :)) And with that you can't play LOST PLANET? i suspect it's the whole cross-platform curse plus the dx9&10 curse. it's like whenever developers do a game befitting that profile, it'll almost certainly screw up since they never optimize for pc/DX9 people like us.

what resolution do u play neways? as if the curse isn't bad enough, playing at 2560*1600 would screw it up even more.

how bout a pc only game like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.? Surely your system will shine in a game like dat?

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little_scrapper wrote :

Is there any reason you are spending extra money on the overpriced Kingston ram when you could buy generic DDR800 and not notice a bit of difference... assuming it works at all.



Thank you so much for asking that. actually the HyperX was rather out of my league but i was thinking it was going to boost my FPS in a game like S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

So, i'm wrong? Should i just get two 1GB sticks of the Kingston Value Series RAM? THe dual channel thing will work then, right? BUt even so, wat bout the whole Cas n latency timing thingy? The HyperX KHX6400D2LLK2/2GN runs at 4-4-4-12, isn't that suppose to mean something like...i dunno, faster performance?

Negligible. That's wat you're telling me? The difference between two sticks of Value Series and the HyperX is only like 20 bucks, so it is worth it, right?

"...assuming it works at all." Dont get this part, care to elaborate?


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I have the E6750 and get great FPS. Remember that the clock speed isn't everything too.

You may want to check out the deals at newegg and mwave and frys. I bought 2 x 1GB of low latency Crucial ram for $70 total. It's really good ram and was way cheap.

Hope your build turns out good for you and you get the boost you're looking for.

E6750 all the way!

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huron wrote :

I have the E6750 and get great FPS. Remember that the clock speed isn't everything too.

You may want to check out the deals at newegg and mwave and frys. I bought 2 x 1GB of low latency Crucial ram for $70 total. It's really good ram and was way cheap.

Hope your build turns out good for you and you get the boost you're looking for.

E6750 all the way!



thank u for that. the FPS boost was wat i was hoping for. what's your latency on the Crucial? looks like a good deal. the HyperX is pricey at a latency of 4-4-4-12.


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Definatley get the E6750 its not contest. Also I would try and get rid of that softspot you may have for any company to make decisions like this easier on you. lol, and also I put some memory suggestions here if you were still thinking in going a different direction. The g. skill i linked are the models you see in my sig. Hope this helps.

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