DX 10.1 by the end of this year?

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I am wanting a DX 10.1 compatible video card. I will be doing some gaming on it, I want a card that will play all upcoming games at least at Medium settings. Are there going to be any DX10.1 cards by the end of this year or do I have to wait until 2008? Isn't there already on out? an ATI card? How good is it?

Thanks!
 

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i would assume that all dx10 cards will play dx10.1 games as soon as their drivers get updated. dx10.1 wont be a huge leap from dx10 (not like dx9 to dx10) so any mid range dx10 card should suffice id say(unless i missed some huge ground breaking development :eek:). Dont want to start a flame war or anything but nvidia seem to be dominant right now so you may want to consider them if your looking for a new card soon. If you can wait maybe ATI will bounce back in 08?
 
http://www.josephsart.net/news.php?item.38.4
Funny part of the post:
"Even though DirectX10.1 will support current DirectX10.0 graphics hardware, today's DirectX10.0 hardware will not be able to support all of the features of DirectX10.1, which includes incremental improvements to 3D rendering quality."

Sounds like required new hardware for full directx10.1 support to me....

It's due to come out with Vista SP1 First quarter next year.
 

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Im so sick of this $hit, honestly. Thats why console growth is exploding. Paying $2K for a machine, only to have some hardware revision and not enjoy the latest games is totally out of control. I love my PC and will never trade it for anything, but developers and HW manufacturers are going to have to get their $hit together, otherwise people are just gonna give up, and you'll be left with a handful of enthusiasts like me.

I understand that new techs come out all the time, but at least have SW and HW developers work with specific time segments, ie. 2 year cycles. Develop games that are compatible with that platform, and then have a revision, make everyone aware in advance, and move to next gen.

Anyway, enough rants. Im done being a guinea pig for new tech. Wait till prices come down, then build. ie. My Crysis machine will come in 12 months.
 

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By the way - all this really means is $hitty games for PC users at the end of the day. SW developers will focus on console content. Not only is that market exploding, but games are much harder to pirate.

Companies will not spend mega budgets on PC games and we'll be left with sub-standard entertainment. Yes a WoW might come along every 5 years, but thats about it. Crysis looks awesome, but I'm telling you, the hype with these things is out of control. Look at Halo 3. Look at the X38. Im still waiting to see what happens with this one.

PS. I have hope for Spore. The concept sounds great.
 

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Your current DX10 cards will be compatible with DX10.1 just wont be able to take advantage of the additional features. If your going to play upcoming games on at least medium settings I'm guessing DX10.1 would be a bit redundant. They just tested the 8800GTS and the GTX and they performed rather well in DX10. I'm guessing thats your best bet.
 

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I think the only major different between Direct X10 and 10.1 will be tessellation support; it's unlikely we'll see games taking advantage of this however for another year.
 

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People worry to much, the difference between DX10 & DX10.1 is very small (.1). I am not even worried about it, so much so I'm getting an 8800 GTX on November 1st. Life is fun but for some its just hell when it don't need to be.
 

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Small difference !!! Bull ----- ATI is releasing their 2950's in November ... bucu better shading properties to say the least ... 10.1 will have alot of refinements and advancements for the gaming industry . Why buy an outdated card when these 2950's are going to sell at about $250.00 retail ???? Somebody better read the specs on them and the future of directx 10.1 future capabilities before making such lame statements !
 

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What a dumb statement !!!!! -------------- :kaola:
 

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November this year ... ATI 2950 ...... big bang low buck fully 10.1 ..... specs show will eat 8800's anywhere near it's class and not already obsolete like 8800's or 2900's !!!!! And they won't have to be overclocked out the bazoo like the nvidia's to perform !!
 

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How is it that you know that the ATI 2950 will eat 8800's even before it is released? What does eat 8800's mean, slightly faster, 1.5 times faster? Anyone who go's by spec's aloan clearly doesn't know that much. :heink: What a dumb statement!! :lol:
 

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it's called the ATI Hype Train. Lots of people ride it. :pfff:
 

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all aboard! :p
No, but realistically from a marketing standpoint AMD/ATI wouldn't release a card that was at least not 'on par' with the 8800, and considering the current 2900XT performance as well as the 10.1/newness/new drivers, ATI fans are just hoping for it to turn out well, including myself.
 

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Personally I am an AMD fan. But I try to see things how they trully are. Currently I am trying to find a very good reason to buy an ATI 2900. And I simply ca't!
I hope this changes with the next gen video cards. For sure though, both AMD and NVIDIA are focused in power consumption for the next generation video cards. I don't see major improvements in performance coming.
Hopefully though the 2950's will approach even further the 8800GTX.
I want a motive to buy an AMD GPU and to be honest I don't have one...
Not to mention that last year I bought a Core 2 (the second Intel I bought since the Celeron 300A@450MHz)...
Out of 5 PC's my 3 latest ones have 8800 graphics cards on them....
 

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Sounds like you're one of the ones who dumped bucu hundreds on a nvidia dx10 card and is sucking low titty with an outdated card ..... LOL .... :kaola:
 

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Trooper1947 I don't mean to be offensive but for a lack of a better word you are a complete idiot! How is the 8800 GTX outdated? Also could you keep your childish remarks (titty) to yourself. I for one do not want to know whats inside your head, not that there would be anything valuable. DX10.1 is a very small update that won't change much of anything, nor will game makers know how to optimise it for at least a year or two. By then I'll own a new graphics card.
 

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Right, im in the middle here and im not taking anyones side, but it seems like some people are saying 'how can you judge hardware before it is released?' and at the same time are saying 'DirectX 10.1 will definately make next to no difference'... :heink:

P.s- holding out for benchmarks before i make a choice on what to buy next. :whistle:
 

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I have one thing to say... you buy an ATI HD38x0 today for its DX10.1 support that they claim... and how would you know if it really works? There are NO DX10.1 apps or games at the moment. By the time one comes out, they will be moving to DX11 already... (and what if they didn't implement it properly in the first place?) so just get a good card now and forget about DX10.1 or .2 or .... whatever.