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September 29, 2007 11:29:05 PM

hellow
yesterday, my next door was about to throw away their old computer, so i asked for it. and now i know that it is super old . it has p3(650mhz) and 32mb ram. i was like holy crap!!
my problem is...
when you turn the pc on, you know the starting screen shows and then the window thing.
but this pc stoped after window screen
os is ME and after that, it is black with white curser on top left.

i dont know what was happening.. and um any one know what is going on and how to fix it??

(please dont say things like "why are you trying to use that pc?"

i was going to use it for MP3 chargeing..... :lol:  :lol: 

please help

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September 29, 2007 11:57:34 PM

Nice find! I still enjoy coming accross such things as that, like a p3 freaking tualatin 1.4GHz with ddr. Anyways, the best thing to probably do is full format the hdd and install your choice of os. ME is garbage anyways lol. Good luck getting it running.
September 30, 2007 12:32:45 AM

yuseaname said:
Nice find! I still enjoy coming accross such things as that, like a p3 freaking tualatin 1.4GHz with ddr. Anyways, the best thing to probably do is full format the hdd and install your choice of os. ME is garbage anyways lol. Good luck getting it running.


If this doesn't work, I'd try a different PSU and once you get it running, likely have to increase the memory, you want at least 512MB but better to go up to 1GB. For I computer that old the only updates I do is increase the RAM and get a new hdd.
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September 30, 2007 12:59:13 AM

It will run XP, but will need a minimum of a 256 MB stick of RAM to make it useful. It probably has a 10gig or less hard drive being that old, so will need a bit more disk space for your purposes.

Now, if you were smart, you wouldn't even bother with upgrades and just format and slap a win98 SE OS on it and use it as you described above or put it on a network and use it as a data storage unit.
September 30, 2007 1:26:02 AM

I agree with onestar. It's a bit too old to spend money on it.
September 30, 2007 1:55:09 AM

Old RAM is cheap, I'd add another 128MB of cheap RAM and salvage a Windows 98SE license from another system.
September 30, 2007 2:39:18 AM

Win98...
File server + Bit torrent if you do that.
Folding @ Home can be installed if you want to help with the project(but it will sap all the free power from the computer....)....

Also....maybe you can put VLC(and some kind of video card with TV out) on it and use it as a DVD/DivX player :) 
September 30, 2007 2:43:37 AM

nevermind my first post

nice find. I got an old Gateway with a 700 mhz Athlon and 128 meg the other day in a similar neighbor throw away deal. I wiped 98 and installed XP and another 32 meg RAM and now it needs a new home. I got too many PCs already. I really enjoy vintage PCs though. We got a couple of antiques still running round here. An IBM XT for one.
September 30, 2007 3:03:17 AM

I would get more ram for it, and install a Linux OS on it.
September 30, 2007 3:04:16 AM

I still run as follows:

- 120Mhz P1 with 32MB of RAM and Win 95 (hence my username). It's a great little word processor and I still like to mess around with DOS. Also, I run Worms on it as well. It was my first computer ever.

-750Mhz Duron with 512MB of RAM (it originally only had 128MB). It's a hardcore Unix/Linux learning system (as in it won't run Ubuntu, but true command prompt OS's). Right now, it's running FreeBSD. Might throw Debian 4.0 soon mainly to learn Debian via Terminal and BASH. I kept this because it gave me so many problems when I wanted to install 98SE on it, I decided to keep it since I would have to troubleshoot so much, I would be spending all my time with it anyway. So, I upgraded the RAM on it for $60 .

Normall, when I get an old system like that, I fix it up and give it away to someone who needs a computer and can't afford one.
September 30, 2007 3:22:09 AM

damn thats not old. I still have way older than that....not that i use em they just stored in the attic
September 30, 2007 3:46:19 AM

You really need at least 384MB to run XP properly, it runs horribly slow with 256MB...and even worse with less.
September 30, 2007 5:58:54 PM

oh wow i was surprised that many of you guys have computers like that!!
and thanks for answering..
but sad thing is i only have windows xp cd
do any of you guys know where to download win me or 2000??
September 30, 2007 6:11:58 PM

Could always learn how to run Linux on it.
October 1, 2007 12:44:37 AM

then if i install windows 2000 on that computer with 32mb ram and p3, does it will work??
October 1, 2007 1:16:14 AM

You should have at least 256MB for Win2k to work well. 98SE flies with 128MB, I'd pick up a 128MB stick.

Lots of people were once so partial to Win2k that they'll lie about how much memory it needs to run properly.
October 1, 2007 1:34:36 AM

The generally rule of thumb for OS's and how much RAM so you can actually use them:

98SE: 128MB
2KPro and most Linux distros: 256MB
XP: 512MB

I'm not going to mention Vista because the mobo won't handle that much RAM anyway.
October 1, 2007 2:07:41 AM

Windows 95 ran good with 32MB unless you opened too many applications at once, or the wrong app.
October 1, 2007 3:01:36 AM

I agree, crash. With 32MB on 95, I can at least run Word 2000 and play a CD with no problems.
October 1, 2007 3:04:58 AM

play a CD with the analog cable.... :)  Don't forget to use it...saves a load of cpu power(DEA sucks on old p1's)....
October 1, 2007 3:45:06 AM

wow that sucker is old. my first computer way back in 1997 when I graduated high school was a Packard Bell 166mhz it lasted me about 6 years.
October 1, 2007 3:51:19 AM

guys.. im in hurry...

now i downloaded win me and found out that its min ram is 32mb.

that is not the problem
my problem is that when i insert the installation cd in when i turn on the pc,
you know that black screen that shows you all the hardwares in that system when you first see on the screen, and after that it turns into blank black screen with curser on top left again, and seems like not reading from the cd.( i went into bios and setted to boot from the cd)
anybody knows what is going on??
October 1, 2007 4:06:45 AM

Yeh, good luck with that, ME was crap, the pirated copy you downloaded probably isn't bootable...and even if it was, the CD-ROM might be dead.
October 1, 2007 4:21:32 AM

no i tried in the xp computer and the menu showed up
like
choose a boot :from hdd or from CD ROM
October 1, 2007 5:03:03 AM

Dead CD-ROM drives are common on old systems.
October 1, 2007 5:38:09 AM

Definitely wipe it and install Linux on it; I see no use in trying to run XP on that machine; You'll be able to get a lot more out of this machine if you run ubuntu or something like that on it...
October 1, 2007 6:18:06 AM

Crashman said:
Yeh, good luck with that, ME was crap, the pirated copy you downloaded probably isn't bootable...and even if it was, the CD-ROM might be dead.


Your problem is probably the copy of Win ME you downloaded wasn't a bootable CD image. This link will show you how to create a bootable WinME CD image from the files you downloaded:
http://www.geocities.com/mark_ashworth1/me_boot/winmebo...

Personally, I wouldnt mess with ME because it is a real buggy OS. I would go buy a cheap (like $30) 256mb stick of PC133 RAM, install it, and install windows 98. If all you are doing with that computer is storing/playing/transferring MP3's that should be more than adequate.

Linux would work too, but I wouldnt suggest it if you are not familiar with it already. It does have a steep learning curve, and finding drivers for some of your hardware might be a problem.
October 1, 2007 6:57:55 AM

Crashman said:
You really need at least 384MB to run XP properly, it runs horribly slow with 256MB...and even worse with less.



I disagree with you!
I had this celeron 300mhz machine with 192mb sdram(128+64) mounted on a slot loading intel z440chipset based gigabyte motherboard with a 20gb seagate drive and it had a geforce 2 mx 400 64 mb card in it.i loaded xp on it and it performed as well as any of the pentium 4 systems back in 2002-2003.i even finished playing medal of honor and call of duty part 1 on it!!! doom3 made me realize that it was ancient!
i got rid of it in 2004 july to get my AMD 64 machine.though i really regret my decision of disposing it.i wish i had kept it! it served me for a good 8 years.got it in 1997.
October 1, 2007 7:15:16 AM

sunny27 said:
I disagree with you!
I had this celeron 300mhz machine with 192mb sdram(128+64) mounted on a slot loading intel z440chipset based gigabyte motherboard


Disagree all you want, I've seen old systems go from 15 seconds to 3 seconds to load programs simply by increasing from 128MB to 384MB in XP. 256MB was often a problem when multitasking.
October 1, 2007 7:42:00 AM

I call BS, sunny. A 300Mhz Celeron running 98SE couldn't even run The Sims.
October 1, 2007 7:44:55 AM

256Mb is ok in XP if you don't run much. My bro runs an 800MHz athlon T-bird with 256Mb RAM and he runs call of duty 2 on it (it's real slow but it does run). But yea, to really USE the computer you want 384Mb or more.

As for Win ME, forget it. If you can be bothered scouring windows update site for bug fixes and updates, then go for it. They never released a much needed SP to combine the many hotfixes they made for it.
October 1, 2007 8:03:16 AM

That's the thing, randomizer, people are claiming to USE XP on such little RAM. My idea of running an OS is being able to open up Word, Firefox, and a mp3 player all at the same time and not have to wait for the system. What's the point of running a system that you have to wait to do anything?
October 1, 2007 8:05:35 AM

Then I would advice you to upgrade your RAM to at least 512Mb, 1Gb preferred, if you're going to multi-task.

My friend had an XP machine with P4 and 256Mb RAM... his computer takes about 5 min to start up...

my computer takes under 1 min..
October 1, 2007 8:14:07 AM

If that comment was directed at me, yomama, not to be rude, but I already know what is the ideal RAM for each OS. Actually, I already posted it in a previous post in this topic. I'm just tired of people saying they can do a lot of things with XP with lower than 256MB of RAM and act like the machine is flying.
October 1, 2007 8:55:32 AM

I suspect it really depends on many variables....such as
1) on board graphics stealling a portion of ram
2) the class of the motherboard itself
3) the intended operational usage by individual preference
4) swap file placement and efficiency
5) the video card being used

There are so many other things that can play a part in overall performance that it is difficult to ascertain how a given installation will perform until the "best practice" options are in place.
October 1, 2007 9:18:56 AM

What are you guys talking about? I was running win95 in an Intel 486DX @66Mhz with 16Mb or Ram!! Ok, it was a bit slow but I could play quake, listen to music, watch video and surf the net among other things (not simultaneously though!! LOL). But your better choice I believe is win98SE. Far more stable than 95. Absolutely forget winME. That OS is absolute bollocks and almost run microsoft to the ground. If you upgrade your ram, your best bet is win2k as it's the same core with XP but lacks all the visual candy, giving you better performance.
My 2 cents
October 1, 2007 9:51:06 AM

WinME was just the stopgap version of 98 that had a couple of updates before XP came out. There's nothing wrong with it.

LMAO, in what way did it nearly run MS in to the ground!?
October 1, 2007 10:36:50 AM

WinMe was actually a pretty robust OS. The problems most people had, in my experience, were the drivers which supported it were shoddy. Most manufacturers tried to use the Win98 drivers or merely patched them in a haphazard fashion. In some small cases I remember WinMe installing the wrong drivers having identified the hardware differently than it actually was, but in many of those cases, it was the installers fault and not the OS.

Win2K is probably one of the best OSs out there as far as efficiency/stability is concerned, however I have found it difficult to find drivers for some situations.
October 1, 2007 11:45:08 AM

jhyukkang said:
hellow
yesterday, my next door was about to throw away their old computer, so i asked for it. and now i know that it is super old . it has p3(650mhz) and 32mb ram. i was like holy crap!!
my problem is...
when you turn the pc on, you know the starting screen shows and then the window thing.
but this pc stoped after window screen
os is ME and after that, it is black with white curser on top left.

(please dont say things like "why are you trying to use that pc?"

i was going to use it for MP3 chargeing..... :lol:  :lol: 

please help


Your system is hanging just after the 32-bit drivers are loaded. That's a conflict or bad driver, or bad hardware for that matter. The BIOS battery may be weak thus the Bios is in an illegal state. A Cmos reset may clear the hang. If the memory is Sdram you can find a 512 megabytes stick for some $40, and that will let you run XP. 256megs WILL run XP but there's a lot of swapping, it's not comfortable to use. 32 megs may run Win98 but is useless for modern applications that can still run within 98 or ME.

As for the system itself, I am right now typing this on a P3-600, BX chipset, 512 Megs, XP. It has been running almost 24/7 since 1999 and does everything internet-related that it needs to. You should get your 650 going, use it for downloads etc and protect your Core2Duo or whatever your main Multimedia system.
October 1, 2007 5:39:01 PM

Oh please do not explode here....
We have enough to do cleaning up after the fanboys.
October 1, 2007 6:15:37 PM

Before doing anything else, I would try and find out why it isn't booting up now. What did your neighbor say about it? Was it working for them? It could be a dud now. Also, did you go into the BIOS first? After a long time, the battery may have died and you need to set the date/time.

What if you use your XP CD and attempt to boot into command prompt mode? If you can't try that, try creating a boot disk from your other XP computer.

Get it to boot before spending any more money or time on it.
October 1, 2007 8:15:47 PM

haha might explode??

um you guys know how i made that me installation cd??
i used nero image burning thing.
and the old cd drive i took that thing out and i plugged in the new DVD ram drive in that computer.

the problem is that the menu shows up as i told you : boot from HDD or CD

but the key board doesnt work...
i used 2 keyboards but it is ignoreing me!!

is it because of the bios setting??
help>>>
October 1, 2007 8:47:39 PM

Ok

Here ze goes

Vot u need is unt vone thousand vatt power supply for zee old peee three zen ve put inst a new moztherboard anz putz ins ze new processor..

Add a pinch of untvidia and a couple of googabytes and install ze hard drive wiv ze uber 1TB Hitachi drive wid Samsunks dvd drive and voondabar a Vista runabout for aboutz a 1600 dollaz and youz vill feel the retro machine will not onlyz dooz ze mp3z but loads of knitting patterns az well....

ok

Press f8
got to safe mode
run system restore
and see what happends

sounds like a drive has messed up

me - crap crap crap.... The best os for me was Windows 2000 - i know it didnt last for long but i never had it crash on me once... Xps stable after 100 patches but i liked windows 2000....

Good luck
October 1, 2007 11:07:49 PM

hey guys i got more bit problem
as i told you before when i insert the cd at boot, the menu comes out saying boot from HDD or CD
but from that point i cant use the keyboard, it doesnt work
i cant move the thing down so that i can pick CD booting

i tried 2 keyboards same situation...

about the cd drive, i took the old one out and i put in the new dvd ram drive i never use CD ROM
October 3, 2007 5:08:49 AM

Well, without a keyboard you basically have a big paper weight there. Are you using one plugged into the PS2 port or USB? You may need it to be in the PS2 to be recognized by the BIOS at boot time.

October 3, 2007 8:08:04 PM

hey! i wasn't kidding !! i've played call of duty 1 @ 640x480 with everything set to minimum and i finished the game!! i did play medal of honor allied assault too!!!
i played it on my celeron 300mhz pc with 192mb sdram and my old geforce 2 mx 400 64mb card!! why would i BS!!!???
October 3, 2007 8:40:49 PM

Super Old?
I wouldn't call PC's super old until you get into the P1/AMD/Cyrix age of windows 3.1. Thats about when I started troubleshooting systems.
October 3, 2007 9:14:40 PM

I would say an IBM personal system 2 model 25 counts as old.

They actually thought it was worth something!!!
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