So it looks like the 2950XT will approach or beat the 8800GTX

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Mactronix

hmm so if a 8800GT is out perfoming the 640 GTS, what if they rebuilt the 8800GTX/Ultras based on the G92. That card would kill everything on the market. ATI Who?

I suspect the 8800GTX/Ultra will be out shortly based upon that chip.
Most likely they are starting with the slower chips while they increase yields on the higher speeds. Perhaps in a Quarter.

Interesting. The 8800GT looks to be a good buy. Should bring the price of the GTX and the Ultra down, so no bad thing there.

However, I fail to see how you link this to the 2950XT being a 8800GTX killer? In DX10 (where it matters at the high end) the 2900XT performs woefully so it would be quite a feat for it to overtake the 8800GTX.

Supposedly the 8800gt is jsut a 65nm G80 with 112SP's, which means you wouldnt see the performance boost between the 8800gts and 8800gtx if a newer gtx was released.

Is there any evidence of this?

Yes, a $500 card that's been out for an entire year now.

well this is speculation but we can see that the memory bandwidth reduction didn t have that much of an impact if at all on nvidia s card. so maybe we can consider the 2950xt as an overclocked 2900xt if we follow the the logic. look what the added speed and shader processors did to the 8800gt. and if it overclocks well then anything is possible.

also, as for gtx vs gt, maybe nvidia dont really care as much about the gtx as when it came out. i think the gtx was just being made to demonstrate the superiority and capability of nvidia and now it s time to sell the technology with a better card(if we do not only factor in the performance. then again even performance wise?).