I've been having very strange crashes when trying to play games on my system. Randomly the game will freeze and my LCD monitor will claim that it no longer has a video signal. I'll hear sound thrashing for a few minutes and then the computer will reset itself. I'm using the 163.75 beta drivers. I've been having a hell of a time with this. I'm even RMA'ing my memory. System specs should be part of my signature. Any help or ideas is greatly appreciated.
Guess not...
Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 F6 BIOS
4GB Kingstong HyperX 800mhz DDR2 Memory (2x1GB x2)
500GB Samsung SpinPoint T SATA HD
16x Samsung SATA DVD-Burner
Windows Vista Home Premium 64 bit (all updates/hotfixes)
PNY XLR8 Overclocked 8800GTX (factory overclocked by PNY with 163.75 drivers)
onboard Intel HD Audio
BenQ FP93GX LCD monitor
What CPU do you have?
I have a DQ6 & have been unable to get either 2gb or 4gb in dual channel working.
Mine will freeze in games too. The only way I got it to work perfectly was running 2GB in single channel(memory in different colored slots)
Where exactly is this thrashing sound coming from though? Your hard drive perhaps? I once had a drive that did this, it would try to access a file and *sometimes* it couldnt then the thing would make clicking clanking sounds and never recover till i reboot, it wasnt my windows OS drive though, i imagine if it was then it would have reboot the comp.
I have this board also, no probs here and overclocks like crazy with a e6300 and a couple of sticks of old patriot 1.8V 2gb ddr2 667 that ive had stable as high as ddr2 864, using a 1:2 divider.
ps. i have had 2 samsung 160gb drives fail on me,... just sayin
Didn't you run a program like memtest86+ to see if it was the Ram? Case heat can cause a crash like your describing, after my OC my case got really hot inside and it crashed and then restarted after it cooled down. Theres soo many things it could be, did you get any blue screens and if so what error code did you get?
D'oh, I have a Q6600 not overclocked. Memtest86+ won't run but Windows Memory Diagnsotic Extended test completed without errors. The thrashing is from my speakers. The sound just loops over and over. I think I may have fixed the crash in Episode Two by turning on VSync
| bnath wrote : D'oh, I have a Q6600 not overclocked. |
Uhh I never said you that did.
Have another look at my post, "my OC". Just because you haven't OC'ed you PC doesn't mean that it can't get hot in your case. That looping sound is most likely your sound card drivers not playing nice with Vista. You never ansered my question, did you get a blue screen?
No blue screen, only the monitor saying it didn't have a signal and then the sounds looping and thrashing. I've got the latest realtek HD audio drivers. Enabling Vsync seems to have solved the crashing, at least in HL2: Episode Two. I played for two hours without a single crash, when I used to only be able to play for five to twenty minutes.
| bnath wrote : No blue screen, only the monitor saying it didn't have a signal and then the sounds looping and thrashing. I've got the latest realtek HD audio drivers. Enabling Vsync seems to have solved the crashing, at least in HL2: Episode Two. I played for two hours without a single crash, when I used to only be able to play for five to twenty minutes. |
If you have to enable Vsync to fix the problem for any game then the problem is with your graphics card or its drivers. Are you running any sort of monitor utility like Magic Tune, these programs have been know to interfear with any video card drivers?
Nope, nothing like that. It's gotta be Nvidia's drivers. Still no good. It's 163.75 the drivers "optimized" for Episode Two.
I have heard from many that Vista Ultimate 64 is not very friendly with any video card drivers designed for a 32bit OS. Most games are 32bit, except the 64bit version of Crysis 64.
i'm using 64 bit drivers
Actually Crysis 64 bit demo won't run... also I get a signal drop in that game unless I force vsync with Nvidia's drivers. Very very odd...
Somewhere in your video resolution/frequency higher than your monitor can take. Reduce frequency might solve the problem.
Hmm... my frequency is only 60hz.. Not sure what could be increasing the monitor frequency without forcing vsync...
CPU-Z Screen grabs:
Here's another:
Just curious how to manually set my memory to 800mhz, 4-4-4-12 and 2.0v timings to see if it's really a memory issue causing the signal loss in games that I haven't forced vsync on. Ctrl F1 opens up a lot of options I don't understand. If someone could go through each advanced option and tell me the setting to use to set this Kingston memory at it's defaults (no overclocking) that'd be great.
You didn't adjust your PCI-E frequency in bios did you? If you did most people have problems above 120Mhz, mine is locked at 100MHz.
No there shouldn't be any adjustment of PCI-E frequency going on.
I have a very similar problem to yours. I've usually powered down pretty quickly, for fear it's a hardware issue, but when I leave it for awhile trying to break out of the process, the graphics go haywire. Never had the computer shut itself down. I do get the looping sound though - this is fairly common in my experience when a game crashes or the computer lags out.
I'm using a GigaByte GA-M57SLI-S4, with one PNY 8600 GT, thats about the only similarities between my system and yours. I'm using 32bit Windows XP, and an AMD-based system.
Well I'm wondering if it's just bad drivers too. bccode 116 is what keeps being returned and it seems to be driver related. go nvidia...
Once again, error in nvldkkm.sys was returned on a blue screen. This time while playing Jericho. Really frustrating... not sure what to do...
| bnath wrote : Once again, error in nvldkkm.sys was returned on a blue screen. This time while playing Jericho. Really frustrating... not sure what to do... |
You should underclock your 8800 GTX and see if that make a difference. I don't think its the Nvidia drivers, its hardware. Can you still RMA the 8800?
I don't think so... I'd have to check with PNY...
| bnath wrote : I don't think so... I'd have to check with PNY... |
What type of warranty do you have with your PNY 8800 GTX? Tell them the problems that you are having, they might be able to help you.
The warranty is five years. I'm going to e-mail them tomorrow. I've tried setting the PCI-e frequency to 100mhz manually. I didn't have time to test it but upon starting my computer today I got a BSOD I couldn't record, it then restarted and seems to be okay... We'll see what happens...
Sent PNY a support e-mail. I've still not been able to play anything for more than two hours without the nvlddmkm.sys BSOD. I ran memtest86+ all last night without a single error so I don't think it's the system RAM throwing the BSOD. I'm wondering if Nvidia's drivers still suck or the PNY 8800GTX has issues.... Case temperature also never goes beyond 70 degrees Celcius from the reports I've seen via Everest. So I don't think heat is an issue.
Thought I was in the clear after trying to underclock the 8800gtx... however that's not the case. I'm really angry about all this... I'm starting to be turned off of pc gaming.
70C thats you problem, damn!! The reason your crashing is too much heat build up in your PC case. My overclocked E6600 @3.7GHz runs under 55C full load and my 8800GTX max temp 68C. I can't believe your just telling us now about your 70C temps this late in your thread!!
Oh wait, that can't be right, hah. I need to check again. My computer would shut itself off. What was I drinking when I posted that? It's been a long couple of months...
System is only 50 degrees Celcius. Maybe 60 when revved up. Still doesn't seem terrible. I made a mistake, it happens.
| bnath wrote : System is only 50 degrees Celcius. Maybe 60 when revved up. Still doesn't seem terrible. I made a mistake, it happens. |
Even 60c is still pretty warm for a PC case, after a while that heat soaks into all you PC components decreasing life span and causing crashes after 1-2 hour of heavy gaming. My case is 41c which gives me a load temp for GPU @59c.
I think it's the video card. It's being reported at 80C which seems ridiculous. How can it be reporting at such high amounts of heat? I don't understand it. It cannot possibly be that hot and still work at all...
I have an aurora 570 case from Gigabyte and an Arctic Cooler 7 Pro. All fans are on auto to keep noise down. The side of the case is ventilated. This doesn't add up...
When I say my graphics card is 68C I mean the GPU core itself, not the amient temperature. My ambient temperature right now is 26C or 78.8F and my CPU is 27C, and your saying your ambient temperature is 50C/60C revved up. Do you know how hot 50-60 degrees C is? So your 80C temperature for your GPU isn't hard to believe. With all the data you have given us things are now starting to make sence. 60C Celsius = 140 degrees Fahrenheit and for your GPU 80C = 176F, thats hotter than any desert on planet earth!
It really doesn't make sense why this is though. I feel cool air being blown out of my case, the card feels hot on the back but not scorching. Very odd... There's plenty of ventilation and fans on my case.. It boggles my mind...
| bnath wrote : It really doesn't make sense why this is though. I feel cool air being blown out of my case, the card feels hot on the back but not scorching. Very odd... There's plenty of ventilation and fans on my case.. It boggles my mind... |
What case do you have? I would think that the Antec 900 would solve all your heat problems, it has 1-2 120mm fans in front and a 140mm on top in back plus one 120mm in back side.
I have the Gigabyte Aurora 570. Really seems to be a very good case with great fan systems and a lot of room for air to be moved around. It also has a ventilated side panel. So the heat really makes no sense...
| bnath wrote : System is only 50 degrees Celcius. Maybe 60 when revved up. Still doesn't seem terrible. I made a mistake, it happens. |
Where are you getting all your temps, Speed Fan? You say you made a mistake, are you saying that you temperature program made a mistake? What is your amient temperature?
Speed fan is reporting the temperatures. Don't know which reading is the ambient...
| bnath wrote : Speed fan is reporting the temperatures. Don't know which reading is the ambient... |
Give me all you temps that you have, so I can have a look at them.
Now let me see you temps using Orthos blend test, I don't know how your running your quad @ 1.1 Vcore thats not stock Vcore is it?.
If you are you can't undervolt you proceeser and expect to have a stable system. I must see you temps under load.
I don't know what you're referring to when you say Orthos blend test. Also, I've kept my CPU voltages unchanged from the BIOS. It's just set to auto...
| bnath wrote : I don't know what you're referring to when you say Orthos blend test. Also, I've kept my CPU voltages unchanged from the BIOS. It's just set to auto... |
The program Orthos stress tests your computer for stability and if a computer isn't stable the most likely thing that will happen is you computer crashes when you start to stress it like playing a game or running many different programs at once.
Heres a link to download Orthos and when you run it you want to select blend = stress CPU & RAM and let it run for at least 8-10 hours. Also so that you can surf the internet set priority to = 8. If your PC crashes durring Orthos then we know what your peoblem is then we proceed from there. I have right now 14 hours Orthos stable on my overclock so that means that my system is stable after 12 hours of being stressed without any errors.
Orthos >>> http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/385/
I'll try this tomorrow
I'm surprised nobody has asked about your power supply (unless I missed it, kinda skipped through thread due to lack of time).
| crabdog wrote : I'm surprised nobody has asked about your power supply (unless I missed it, kinda skipped through thread due to lack of time). |
Now that you have mention it I think I need more coffie. What PSU do you have bnath? Please don't tell me it didn't come with your PC case.
I have a ThermalTake ToughPower 850W
| bnath wrote : I have a ThermalTake ToughPower 850W |
Thats a big PSU, have you run Orthos yet? Thats the only why to find out if your stable.
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