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Please comment on the system I've created - gaming but not too costly

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September 28, 2007 11:10:02 PM

I want to use this to game at 1680x1050. I want to be able to play Bioshock, WiC, and most good graphics at a pretty smooth framerate.

I haven't' made a comp in some years, so this is thrown together with what I could tell what newer technology but not so new it would cost 2k+.

Please give me your feedback; it's much appreciated.

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KINGWIN 3.28 ft. eSATA to eSATA Cable Model ESAC-01 - Retail
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$3.09
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AMC Blue 18" True ATA133/100/66/33 Round IDE Cable, 3-Connectors Model CATA133-183B - OEM
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$3.99
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ZALMAN ZM-F1 80mm Case Fan - Retail
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$4.99
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LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner included extra White bezel, with 12X DVD-RAM Write Black IDE Model LH-20A1P-186 - Retail
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APEVIA X-CRUISER-BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850 - Retail
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Team Xtreem 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TXD32048M1333HC7DC - Retail
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GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
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Seagate SV35 7200.2 ST3320620SV 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
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ZIPPY WK-725 Silver/Black USB Wired Super Slim Office Multimedia Keyboard - Retail
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LG L226WTY-BF Black 22" 2ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
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Microsoft D58-00032 White 5 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB + PS/2 Wired Optical Mouse - Retail
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ePOWER EP-ZU-450W ATX12V 450W Power Supply - OEM
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Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
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MSI NX8800GTS-T2D640E-HD OC GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
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September 29, 2007 12:02:21 AM

I like the E6850 and the 8800GTS-640.

The memory is way overkill and won't work. The gigabyte ga-P35-ds3L needs ddr2 memory, not ddr3. The difference in real application performance(vs. synthetic benchmarks) between the slowest and fastest memory is on the order of 2-4%. Get 4gb of name brand 800 memory.

Get a sata dvd burner. A samsung sh-203b is about the same price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... The sata cables come with the motherboard, and it is a cleaner installation.

Onboard sound is very good. Unless you are a real audio nut, you probably can't tell the difference. You could always add one later.

The PSU looks to ba a little weak. try the corsair VX-450 for $80. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

---good luck---
September 29, 2007 12:17:45 AM

you could save us some trouble deciphering the peripherals; all we need are the system specs: motherboard, cpu, gpu, ram, hdd, psu.........this is the important stuff.
ide ribbons, sata cables, fan, keyboard is not mission critical.

The mobo has built-in 8-channel audio; you don't need a pci-e 7.1 audio card, but maybe you want one.
The E6750 is less expensive and easily overclocks to E6850 speeds and beyond.
Now here is the part where i bite your head off for lowering your PSU standards............THE 450W OEM E-POWER AINT GONNA CUT IT, it'll run the GPU, that's about it.
Better get your priorities straight, the PSU can make or break a great system
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September 29, 2007 12:42:19 AM

So what's the point of a 1333 fsb if my ram isn't going to be running at 1333 (aka ddr3)?

September 29, 2007 12:47:45 AM

And does the total price look okay? Is the 8800GTS OK for 1680x1050 new games?
September 29, 2007 12:52:06 AM

If you want to go DDR3, you would need the GA-P35C-DS3R, although I agree DDR3 is a waste right now. Also, if you are going 32bit Windows, 4gb is a waste as well. 2gb of Corsair XMS or OCZ Platinum will be fine.

I also second the Corsair PSU. You would be lucky if the ePower even booted up.

September 29, 2007 12:58:56 AM

Unlike the obnoxious little ****, i had to deal with at microcenter, I will give you my opinion in a non-preachy, non confrontational way, I will not slam ati or amd, or for that matter intel or nvidia(hear that you mr prick at microcenter). Okay got that off my chest, love the case, and everything, hate the psu, the psu has no machismo, if you gonna have a sweet ass system like that, you better have 600 or 700 watts of antec, thermaltake,ocz,or silverstone psu to power it, also I would go with a quad core(just my opinion, I know a faster cpu is better for gaming, but a quad seems more logical.
September 29, 2007 1:34:11 AM

I was a big Lite On fan and purchased several LO drives. They are fast and cheap but they have not been reliable and they are noisy compaired to the NEC/Sony/Optiarc drives. I'd be temped to use a different brand....
September 29, 2007 2:44:09 AM

EricVPI said:
So what's the point of a 1333 fsb if my ram isn't going to be running at 1333 (aka ddr3)?

Both DDR2 & DDR3 are available @ 1333MHz FSB; we could turn the question around and say " what's the point of using 800MHz RAM if the CPU & Motherboard is running @ 1333MHz".
My bad, i was thinking that you didn't want to bottleneck the system.
September 30, 2007 10:40:33 AM

What's the use of 800 MHz RAM with a 1333 MHz FSB? Well, the FSB is 64 bits (8 bytes) wide, for 1.333 x 8 = 10.666 GB/s. The RAM is dual-channel, 128 bits (16 bytes) wide, for 0.8 * 16 = 12.8 GB/s.

Now you lose more cycles of the RAM bus to protocol overhead than the FSB, but it's quite well balanced. Even overclocked to 1600 MHz FSB, the RAM can keep up.

Also remember that the reason that DDR3 clocks higher is that they doubled the internal width. SDR-200 equals DDR-400 equals DDR2-800 equals DDR3-1600 RAM, at least as far as the main RAM array is concerned. The only difference is the number of words fetched from the array at once. DDR-3 fetches 8 consecutive words in the same time that SDR fetches 1, and bursts them out over the bus faster. But you're still doing at most 200 M reads per second per RAM channel. (If you want to get really technical, DDR3 supports burst chop which lets you abandon a burst halfway and do a different read, so you can do 400 M reads/sec, as long as they're to different banks. Note that most DDR3 RAM chips have 8 banks internally, so a double-sided DIMM has 16 banks.)
September 30, 2007 9:25:15 PM

Do you think I should wait until Nvidia releases their G90/G91/G92/whatever series cards? I hear it will be sometime soon....


Also, any comments about the mobo?
September 30, 2007 9:41:00 PM

We asked ourselves the same question when the DX/10 ready 8800 series were being readied.....
you can build the most outrageous state of the art unit you can afford, and it'll be great for a while.
Hardware Technology is advancing rapidly, Software to take advantage of increased data processing capabilities is dragging it's feet....so to speak; it takes much longer for programmers to bring software to market.
In laymans terms: Your PC will run the latest games being released,
enjoy it for 6mos and upgrade the vga card to the G90 series....
if it proves to be a significant and cost-worthy upgrade.
Note to self:
Right now is a wonderful time to build a enthusiasts PC
On the same note:
Right now is a bad time to build a enthusiasts PC
Great system for little money vs Latest Tecnology
Decisions, decisions...
September 30, 2007 10:29:10 PM

Trade the E6850 for the E6750.
You can clock them to the same speeds.

Drop the DDR3 for DDR2.

Note: The RAM you bought won't even fit in that Mobo.
Get the DS3-R for better OverClocking.

Get a little better PSU - Perhaps the Corsair 520w.
Get the 8800GTX instead of the GTS.

The savings in CPU and RAM will pay for it.
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