My results after overclocking your thoughts

Ok after fiddling around with it here is what i got now

CPU-Z Database (ID : 293462)
Submitted by Mike Mischler
Submitted on Mon, 07 Jan 2008 00:38:55 +0100 with CPU-Z 1.42

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CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (*1)
CPU Arch : 4 Cores - 4 Threads
CPU PSN : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
CPU EXT : MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 EM64T
CPU Cache : L1 : 4 x 32/4 x 32 KB - L2 : 2 x 4096 KB
Core : Kentsfield (65 nm) / Revision : G0
CPUID : 6.F.B / Extended : 6.F
Freq : 4013.28 MHz (445.92 * 9)
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MB Brand : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO. LTD
MB Model : MS-7345
NB : Intel P35/G33/G31 rev A2
SB : Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev 02
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RAM Size : 4096 MB
RAM Freq : 445.9 MHz
RAM Type : DDR2-SDRAM Dual Channel
RAM Ratio : 1:1
RAM Timings : 5-6-6-17
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Slot 1 : 2048MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 1 Manufacturer : G.Skill
Slot 2 : 2048MB (PC2-6400)
Slot 2 Manufacturer : G.Skill

Everst benchmarks

at 3.935 ghz

Memory Read

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Read Speed
Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 8347 MB/s

Memory Write

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Write Speed
Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 7881 MB/s

Memory Copy

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Copy Speed
Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 7149 MB/s

Memory Latency

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Latency
Athlon64 X2 4000+ 2000 MHz MSI K9N SLI Platinum nForce570SLI Dual DDR2-800 4-4-4-11 CR1 49.0 ns
Athlon64 3200+ 2000 MHz ASRock 939S56-M SiS756 Dual DDR400 2.5-3-3-8 CR2 56.2 ns
Sempron 2600+ 1600 MHz ASRock K8NF4G-SATA2 GeForce6100 Int. DDR400 SDRAM 2.5-3-3-8 CR2 59.4 ns
Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 61.1 ns

CPU Queen

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 28066

CPU PhotoWorxx

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 30439

CPU ZLib

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 102465 KB/s

CPU AES

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 29142

FPU Julia

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 29451

FPU Mandel

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 14171

FPU SinJulia

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CPU CPU Clock Motherboard Chipset Memory CL-RCD-RP-RAS Score
4x Core 2 Quad Q6600 3900 MHz MSI P35 Neo2-FIR/FR / P35 Platinum (MS-7345) P35 Dual DDR2-870 5-5-5-15 CR2 21722

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Not bad at all thats one of the best I've seen for a Q6600. What type of cooling are you using?

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Reply to nzxtlexa

Tuniq Tower 120, thanks, my buddy got me into this forum b/c Im sturring up a buzz at my old one.

Reply to steeda

Wow I was expecting at least water cooling! Some people on this forum are going to be very jealous of your Q6600. I know you've got a G0 version but still you must have got a good one to get an overclock like that with air.

Its probably written in your first post somewhere but I couldn't find it - what vcore are you using and what are your temps??

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Reply to nzxtlexa

believe it or not, i had to go all the way up to 1.8-1.9v, but i have a solid overclock of 3.835ghz at 1.52v at 33c idle & 52c load

temps on the 4 ghz where 33c idle and 65c load

Reply to steeda

whats nice about the overclock is that i got the timings down to 5-5-5-15 at 1:1 ratio and when i get my 8800 gts back im going to run 3dmark01-06 test at 4ghz

Reply to steeda

I have a HARD time trusting those temps. A dual core under load at 3.6 with TRUE 120 hits over 60c.... You are saying you have a quad core, on air, at 3.9! only loading at 52c?? I have to question it, and you should too.

What are you using to monitor your temperatures?

Message edited by Thanatos421 on 01-07-2008 at 08:52:42 PM

Reply to Thanatos421

Am I alone in my disbelief? Cnumartyr, if you're out there, is this even possible?

I only ask, because cnu has his at 3.6 and is pushing the load temps close to uncomfort, with lapped CPU and lapped TRUE 120.

Reply to Thanatos421

no im saying that i have a quad core that runs no higher than 55c at 1.52v at 3.835ghz

Reply to steeda

That still sounds awefully low. What software were you using for thermal monitoring?

Reply to Thanatos421

running the cpu at 3.9ghz resulted in a 60-66c load temp and if i pushed the cpu to 4 ghz i got 72c and cpu failure but i had the voltage at 1.8-19v

Reply to steeda

everest, orthos, and bios

Reply to steeda

Did you lap your CPU and HS?

Reply to Thanatos421

if you guys dont believe me then that is fine, i know the truth b/c i saw it with my own eyes and i mounted the tuniq properly with artic silver and let it set for a day before i booted it up to let the thermal paste set and made sure that the paste had proper connections with the heatsink and cpu, i know these are right b/c, i had a stock cooler and i was getting the same temps others were getting, i got lucky with this one i guess

Reply to steeda

nope, didnt have too, the were perfectly flat, i measured the hsf and the cpu

Reply to steeda

I don't mean to doubt you or act like I don't trust you. I just don't want to see you destroy the CPU due to erroneous temperature readings. If those are indeed correct, then wow, nice job!! Those temperatures are truely phenomenal.

Message edited by Thanatos421 on 01-07-2008 at 10:00:20 PM

Reply to Thanatos421

its not that at all, i ran my cpu at 1.8-1.9v for 2-3 hrs yesterday and i scared the crap out of me, believe on that but now after my experience i believe that myth about going over 1.46v on the new cpu's is totally false, i and my friend run ours at 1.5-1.55 all day long and we never get temps over 50-56c, that is way below the average with a stock cooler, i believe voltage to the cpu has nothing to do with blowing your cpu up if you can control the temps below, and i mean way below thermal failure for the stock specs for a cpu, do u agree

Reply to steeda

I agree, but what I'm trying to relay is that you are running a QUAD core, at .15v higher voltage AND higher frequency than my dual core and you are loading almost 10c lower than me. I have a TRUE120 and a high CFM fan as well. That seems improbable. If you did it, then congratulations!!

Maybe I'm forgetting to ask the most important question. What is your ambient temp?

Reply to Thanatos421

25c

Reply to steeda

Something is wrong then.... either you got the "Golden" Q6600 and the PERFECT Tuniq, or I, and the majority of overclockers have done something very wrong.

Just so you know what I'm referencing. My 6750 @ 3.6GHz, 1.425v will peak 67c on the hottest core and ~60c for the Tcase. This was during Small FFT Prime 95 over 24 hours. Also for reference, my monitoring suite was calibrated before hand using CompuTronix's method.

Message edited by Thanatos421 on 01-07-2008 at 10:21:04 PM

Reply to Thanatos421

ran orthos and everest torture last night for 6 hrs at 1.52v at 3.735 ghz and never eclipsed 56c

Reply to steeda

and in my bios i have it set to 1.5825v

Reply to steeda

in other forums, i tell them the same thing as i am telling you, its all in how you apply the thermal paste and the hsf at the same time and you have to let it set over nite

Reply to steeda

It's really not.. but anyways.

What's ambient? That's the key question missing from this.

I would love to see some screen shots though bro. I'd like to see 10 minutes of loaded operation with CPU-Z open and some temp monitoring software.. It'd be kickass.

Message edited by cnumartyr on 01-07-2008 at 10:47:58 PM

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Reply to cnumartyr

No screens? I dont believe you.

Reply to wirelessfender

That's weird cause AS5 only sets up properly after a couple hundred hours of use. I've built many machines, and all have AS5 properly applied and the HSF mounted flush and snug. It still makes no sense to me how your setup is running that cool. For the time being, I'll just say good job, but I hope you are right.

Reply to Thanatos421

ok, heres what ill do, ill go home tonight and take out my digital camera and record it, if you all are in favor of that, i will upload the video to youtube for you and post the link, so if your up for it, say I and ill go home today in about 2-3 hrs and post you a link but only if you guys want me to do it b/c im not wasting my time if your not into looking at it

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Reply to steeda

cnu, he said ambient was 25c

Reply to Thanatos421

steeda wrote :

ok, heres what ill do, ill go home tonight and take out my digital camera and record it, if you all are in favor of that, i will upload the video to youtube for you and post the link, so if your up for it, say I and ill go home today in about 2-3 hrs and post you a link but only if you guys want me to do it b/c im not wasting my time if your not into looking at it

CPU aside (which I don't think you have a great one considering voltage requirements for stability) you must have an epic Tuniq.

I don't need digital anything. Just take some screenies with temp software open, CPU-Z open, and some kind of stress testing program open.

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Reply to cnumartyr

sorry, thanatos is right its 25c

Reply to steeda

no problem will do and post in increments of 1 hr starting at 6pm my time which it is 3 pm here so in 3 hrs you will have your screen shots

please list exactly what you want to:

everest temp screen with orthos and everest torture running and cpuz running as well, anything else, i will post bios shots as well

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Reply to steeda

3875 MHz @ 1.56 vCore the Q6600 will put off about 240 Watts of Heat.

With an Ambient temp of 25C to get 52C load you'd have to get about.. hmm.. 0.1125 C/W from a cooler. The published best on the website is around 0.15 C/W.

Anyways, screenies would be plenty.

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Reply to cnumartyr

steeda wrote :

no problem will do and post in increments of 1 hr starting at 6pm my time which it is 3 pm here so in 3 hrs you will have your screen shots

please list exactly what you want to:

everest temp screen with orthos and everest torture running and cpuz running as well, anything else, i will post bios shots as well

It's still going to be hard for me to believe those temps are accomplished by a Tuniq, either way. If you really want to include the camera that's your call.

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Reply to cnumartyr

Did you calibrate it???.....Those seem amazingly low.

On a E2180 at 1.39xxx v I get 65 on stock cooling. i understand youre using a Tuniq but that seems amazingly low.

If its all calibrated and still that low than BRAVO. Thats one hell of a Cpu

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Silverion77 wrote :

Did you calibrate it???.....Those seem amazingly low.

On a E2180 at 1.39xxx v I get 65 on stock cooling. i understand youre using a Tuniq but that seems amazingly low.

If its all calibrated and still that low than BRAVO. Thats one hell of a Cpu

To get stable at those speed with those voltages that CPU isn't anything special.

The special thing is how the Tuniq is getting those temperatures.

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Reply to cnumartyr

but is it actually getting those temps is the real question??? (calibrate)

I was off by 5C but I've heard that the Q6600 can be off by 15+

You should get CoreTemp and use that. If you already have and have calibrated then that Tuniq is great......how much you want for it??

Message edited by Silverion77 on 01-07-2008 at 11:31:52 PM

I do have to ask u this, if these temps are wrong dont you think the cpu would have failed, and if the temps are true then i should be able to post these benchmarks and thats what i did b/c if they were not true then i could not have ran these benchmarks to get these scores, all i did was copy and paste them, if i would have had hirer temps the cpu would have failed and i would not have been able to get the benchmarks, true?

Reply to steeda

i can also post the benchmarks at 3.835 ghz too as well

Reply to steeda

cnumartyr wrote :

3875 MHz @ 1.56 vCore the Q6600 will put off about 240 Watts of Heat.

With an Ambient temp of 25C to get 52C load you'd have to get about.. hmm.. 0.1125 C/W from a cooler. The published best on the website is around 0.15 C/W.

Anyways, screenies would be plenty.

I was just wondering could you show how you worked out how much Watts of heat the CPU produced and the C/W of the cooler? It'd be helpfull for future o/c's etc..

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At times I do not believe temperature affects whether the cpu affects stability as much as voltage does. If it was for example actually at 75C it might still past, because i've seen overclocks like that, but 75 is pretty uncomfortable

i dont know, the only thing i do know is that cpu failed when it got over 70c, i saw the temps on everest and once it got to 70c it would shut off/ reboot

Reply to steeda

If you can, can you run speedfan or Coretemp. Just wondering because if theyre true, I want to know where you got that Tuniq

yes i manually change the speed of the tuniq and it reports correctly in everest computer/sensor report, and it reports immediately too

Reply to steeda

wow.....what did you change?

just the speed of the fan on the knob that i placed in a component tray on the back of a antec 900 case

Reply to steeda

What's there not to believe?

For all we know his PC is next to a window where the ambient reported by his thermostat isn't the same air temperature as his PC. He could have his heat blowing hell into every room while he's got a window open and his PC is on the floor.

It sounds like his temperature delta between idle and load is 27C. Does that sound right to anybody else? It doesn't sound off. Question his ability to take proper temp. readings but it doesn't sound far off from the truth.

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Reply to I800C0LLECT

The Delta would stay the same if he needed to offset all the temps. Just wondering if it was off.

I had to add 5C to each core

Oops...the temp delta is more like 33...but I was looking at his 4GHz overclock with that higher vcore.

Anyways, perhaps he's not giving as much voltage as he believes. Vdroop much?

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Reply to I800C0LLECT

I say that because I have a hard time believing his Tuniq had the capacity to keep up with the thermal transfer necessary to keep from burning up his CPU @ 1.8-1.9v

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Reply to I800C0LLECT

ok im back, i had to go take my son around the neighborhood on his 4 wheeler, then i had to let him open his christmas presents from my mom and dad that they couldnt send 2 weeks ago, and then i had to figure out that darn vtech toy they bought him and teach him how to play it, the boy is 4 yrs old and can beat lego starwars 1&2 and all the starwars battlefieldfront games on a 360 and cant figure out a darn joystick toy like those vtechs, i will post a pic of rig and it is sitting by a glass window and there is 2 feet of show outside though, and i will post the temps in the bios at start up. now this is now when i just got home so bear with me and ill post pics every 1-2 hrs tonight and i will post pics of my temps at 1.8v and 1.9v

Reply to steeda

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