G92 OR 8800gt with "benchmark" and pics.

Hey guys, I've been reading the forums for a very long time and I am finally posting something because I feel it is time for me to start somewhere in TH forums







This is the supposed "leak" of the 8800gt and it seems from the source that the 8800gt is faster than both gts's. Heres the link to the Vr-zone thread. http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=197188
And heres a link to the source http://myevilprocessor.blogspot.co [...] 12mb.html.

Just like all of us, I'm hoping that we can get a great card that well perform as good as the benchmarks or better for a price similar to the 320 gts.

if this is the Geforce 8800GT for $179....I am going to cry in happiness.

Wait if the 8800GT is faster than 8800GTS...and the 8800GT is like $179-250..than shouldn't the price of 8800GTS fall to like..$100-200, depending on memory size??? Maybe I'm wrong...

Marvelous

Ignore wikipedia lol....

since old 8800gts will be phased out I expect their price to go way down.

Well no not really.. its doubtful they had a 8800gt card, it wont have good drivers at initial release, it defiantly wont outperform a gtx or ultra.

So those benches are pretty wrong...

Duno what you mean by which, both my posts agree with each other.

QFT!

lol

They say that the 8800GT will come out on OCT. 29th, which is coincidentally one week away from today. I'm thinking the new versions are due out between OCT. 29th and Mid-November, but I really haven't looked into those all that much.

Funny how many people complain about being ripped off when they didn't do their homework.

I bought an 8800GTS 320 knowing full well what was coming - I wanted a PC there and then, and wasn't going to fall into the trap that if you wait for the next technology, you end up waiting forever!!! - I only bought the GTS to avoid buying the GTX then and there. I'm gonna dump my card for the new GTX as soon as it comes out though :-)

Supposedly it's 110watts. So slightly more power drain than the 8600gts and much less than the 8800gts.

You should be fine the recomendations are for single rail power supplies and a lot of the amps recommended the manufacture assumes will be used by other components in your PC.

PCI-E 2.0 cards will be compatible with all pci-e 1.1 mother boards (most motherboards since the 965 series are 1.1 I think) PCI-E adds double the bandwidth and provides double the voltage of the 1.0.
The 8800gtx does not even use the full pci-e 1.0 bandwidth, so you shouldn't be bottlenecked. Having a 2.0 motherboard should allow you to run the card without the 2x3 PCI-E connector. But at this point i think that would be the only real benefit.

It'll be interesting to see how they stack up once they come out. I know a few people who are looking to getting a new card, I'll be sure to tell 'em to wait till these come out to see how they do.

I doubt that. I fully realize that this was the case for AGP and PCI 1.0, however I believe the 8800GTX uses almost the full potential of the PCIe X16 bandwidth, therefor any vidcards better than that would be limited. There was a review here on THG on it too.

In any case, if the so called "9800GTX" is twice the performance of the 8800GTX, and also assuming it's coming late this year or early next year, I would say PCIe 1.0 is obsolete then and there. Of course this is all assumption, and of course many people will still but PCIe 1.0 motherboards and vidcards until maybe 2years later. I mean there are still a lot of people buying AGP vidcards...

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] _analysis/

8800gts Just barely using more than the 8x could provide.

The 8800gt and new 8800gts cards are only slightly faster than the old 8800gts. (Assuming the rumors to be accurate)

The next generation high end cards might be able to break past the PCI-E 1.0 limits, but i doubt by much...

Yep.

Or when they complain because something new came out and replaced the best deal they could get when they bought their card. Anyone who bought a GTS 6+months ago should be more than happy with their purchase IMO.

It's like complaining that your '06 vehicle has now been replaced by the new & improved '07 model. Well duh!

Anyone who is an original GTS owner and whines about the GF8800GT coming out, should sell their system, and buy an Xbox360.... and an iPhone, so that they can join the whiney early adopters there who couldn't figure out the idea of pricing.

Can these run a 8800GT?

Antec earthwatts EA380 - $19.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371005

Antec earthwatts EA430 - $39.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371006

qmalik, the Antec earthwatts PSU are poorly made PSU's. Don't cheap out.
Till we know the power requirements of the card, it's not worth asking, because your guess is as goods as ours.
James

how does the 8800gt with a 256 bit interface smoke the 8800gts/gtx with 320 /384 bit interfaces??
if the price quoted --179--200$ is true i am buying the card the day it launches!!!
also the fact that it might run cooler and is a single slot solution makes it worth buying! finally a good replacement for the 6600gt i own.
now benchmarks are all i need !!!

More SP's the nthe 8800gts along with higher clocks. 600/1500/1800 for gt, rather then 500/1200/1600 for the GTS.

8800gts can then perform 115200 shader operations per sec, while 8800gt does 168000.

gtx does 172800 and the ultra does 192000.

On the other hand, gt has 16/16 compared to 24/20 for TMU's and ROPS for the 8800gts, 256bit to 320bit, 512mb to 640mb.

justinmcg6 7 mite all be rubbish, I dont really care lol if i is ill probably go 2900pro 1gb

This familiar name to THGC liked the earthwatts power supply alot in his review: http://www.sysopt.com/features/cas [...] _3660031_4


I've used a few myself. It's nothing fancy, but performs well.

Edit: BTW, the earthwatts are made by seasonic

Link doesn't show what you think it shows. The difference between the same chipset can be much larger and there's no throughoput change, so using it as a PCIe bandwidth test is very sketchy, especially considering the access to the CPU is still pretty much the I/O issue for SLi not just the communication between cards.

However in the PCIe scaling article by Patrick & co;

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/0 [...] _of_duty_2

You can clearly see the benefits on the GF8800GTS to going from 8X to 16X in both gaming and workstation situations (the later likely even benefiting from the new higher speed 16 lanes). That to me would indicate that we are already saturating PCIe 8X in some situations. Interestingly the GTS is affect by the difference, and not the X1950XTX, which may be due to the need to swap out the VRAM on the smaller 320MB more often than on the larger 512MB, but unfortunately no follow-up article with the GTS-640 came along to add more insight.

As for making a GF8800GT that beats a current GTS or even GTX, it depends alot on the cost for nV to make one, if they can significantly reduce the cost of the GF8800GT for them to make compared to the GTX, and still sell it at high volumes with good margins and spark another buying spree, it makes perfect economic sense, especially if you expect the opposition to do something just under that, then you worry about your oppoosition stealing your GTX sales, more than your own card stealing your GTX sales, so in order to keep them in the nV fold you do what you haven't been forced to do for the last 12 months, which is have a compelling replacement for the GTX.

I'm thinking that the 8800 GT is performing better only because of it's higher clocks than the 8800 gts, even though the gts has more "stuff" in it, stream processors etc... I could be wrong, but you never know. If overclocked to the same speeds, wouldn't the gts perform better?

Well if the 8800gt is better then a 8800gts 320mb, I wonder by how much? My setup program with evga ends on Oct. 30.

Current GTS.

320bit
98SP's
24TMU's
20ROP's
320/640mb

New GT

256bit (confirmed)
112SP's (not confirmed)
16TMU's (not confirmed but pretty sure)
16ROP's (not confirmed but pretty sure)
256/512mb (confirmed)

The clocks for 8800gts are 500/1200/1600 I believe, wheras the 8800GT will have 600/1500/1800

Thats core - shader - memory.

So according to those stats, it would have an enourmous lead in shading power, very close to that of the GTX thanks to the much higher clocks. However it would be crippled by the other stats most likely at high resolutions.

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cory1234 you may have 1day to order that step up thing lol.

http://www.pcsuperstore.com/produc [...] l/froogle/

$243 wouldn't be too bad if it beat the current 640MB GTS. And that's $50 less than they sell the 320MB GTS for. (wishful thinking)