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Any sensible upgrade for a 4200+ ?

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October 18, 2007 8:08:45 AM

Buying a house soon :D  , so I don't plan on upgrading anything for a while.

So I've got my 8800 GTS 320, 2 gigs ram, Gigabyte AM2 mobo (no OCing), and the CPU. For better or worse.

However - I might be cough up a little $ to upgrade my CPU if the upgrade is noticable.

Is there an AM2 upgrade that would be worth the money out there? I troll sites and am always tempted to trade up CPUs but I always assume the real world improvement wouldn't be worth it (for the other components I have).

Or is the 4200+ good enough to last until the entire system is trashed?

PS - or maybe I should buy a mobo that allows OCing and keep the 4200+?

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October 18, 2007 8:51:26 AM

i think that only sensible upgrade for 4200 is x2 5000+ black edition. It works at 3,0ghz without raising FSB (200MHz x 15-unlocked multyplier). It cost about 135$, and that will be enough before real barcelona "comes to town".
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October 18, 2007 8:52:58 AM

X2 4200 is a very good CPU, i say get a good motherboard and OC it.
What is your budget ?
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October 18, 2007 9:10:30 AM

Thanks for replies. This has been nagging at me. Do I stay with 4200+ or do I make a cheap upgrade?

My budget is flexible, but I don't want to spend more than maybe $100-$150.

I would top out at around $200 for something that would buy me some good time. But I'd rather stick to $150 or less.

@torcida - you really think a 5000+ is $135 better than a 4200+?
October 18, 2007 9:25:08 AM

Will a 5600 give me a noticeable boost in 3d intensive games?

If it won't I'll stick to th 4200.
October 18, 2007 9:49:06 AM

I checked it out. Theres no way replacing a 4200+ with a 5600+ for that $ makes sense. I can rest at ease.

Thanks again.
October 18, 2007 9:56:43 AM

Yep. I would hold tight and wait til the budget allows for a new quad AMD system.
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October 18, 2007 9:57:18 AM

no problem , so u might want to get a a new motherboard and OC it
October 18, 2007 10:35:20 AM

If you want a fast ass cpu then go for a 6000+ it is getting very cheap now that the 6400+ is out.
October 18, 2007 8:34:04 PM

As i told you, 5000 black edition has a unlocked multyplier, so that makes him more "overclockable" for you. My friend OC 5000 black to 14x240=3360 with a stock cooler, and it works perfectly at 55-60 degrees. Even 6400 black edition can't work at that frequency on that low temperature. Think again. I agree with maziar that 5600 is good choice, but i stay at my choice, and thats 5000 black edition.
October 18, 2007 8:36:36 PM

Ananan said:
Thanks for replies. This has been nagging at me. Do I stay with 4200+ or do I make a cheap upgrade?

My budget is flexible, but I don't want to spend more than maybe $100-$150.

I would top out at around $200 for something that would buy me some good time. But I'd rather stick to $150 or less.

@torcida - you really think a 5000+ is $135 better than a 4200+?


maybe we didn't understand each other. Not x2 5000+, => x2 5000+ black edition
October 18, 2007 8:40:19 PM

Only thing why 5600 is better than 5000 black is L2 Cache (2MB instead 1MB), but i don't think that will give you much more performance, unless you'll do some video editing or something like that. In games that don't matter
October 18, 2007 10:19:45 PM

Original poster:

You have 300 posts and you don't realize going from an AMD X2 to another AMD X2 is idiotic?

You want better performance buy an 8800GTX and OC your 4200+.
October 18, 2007 10:58:37 PM

Noya said:
Original poster:

You have 300 posts and you don't realize going from an AMD X2 to another AMD X2 is idiotic?

You want better performance buy an 8800GTX and OC your 4200+.


I apologize profusely for trying to learn about CPUs.

I know games, GPUs, and PSUs (thanks to more friendly members of this forum). Just trying to add CPUs to the list.

Besides - read my entire OP before calling me an idiot. I have no scratch to buy a GTX you dope.
October 19, 2007 8:53:29 AM

Noya said:
Original poster:

You have 300 posts and you don't realize going from an AMD X2 to another AMD X2 is idiotic?

You want better performance buy an 8800GTX and OC your 4200+.


We're lucky to have you on this forum. We would be lost in space without you.
Idiotic is to call yourself "Noya", but nobody didn't mention that.
October 23, 2007 3:42:18 PM

do ypu belive me now? Did you see test from tom about x2 5000+ black edition. 3,3GHz for 130-135$ ?!?
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October 23, 2007 4:27:08 PM

Here is the real question. Is it running good enough for you now? does it piss you off with slow loads for cpu intense apps? if so upgrade to the unlocked black edition(5000 or 5200). Its almost guaranteed to get 3.0 and thats will help....but note some games are GPU only and will not see the extra power as much as others....
October 23, 2007 4:48:22 PM

starcraftfanatic said:
Is it a 4200+ or X2 4200+?


there is no such thing as a single core 4200+...
October 23, 2007 6:44:19 PM

If you really want to upgrade then you would be better off keeping your existing board then getting yourself an AMD X2 6000+, but I doubt it would be light and day from your current processor at least AM2 processors are cheap :) 
October 23, 2007 7:05:09 PM

The main benefit of the BE is the 65nm process. I wouldn't "upgrade" to anything 90nm, doesn't make sense. Esp. if you can easily OC to 6000 levels and run cooler that way.
October 23, 2007 7:50:27 PM

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To Speedbird, the BE 5000+ will run faster than the X2-6000+ for less money.


Only when it's overclocked? The OP stated that their Motherboard was no use for Overclocking.
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October 23, 2007 8:54:59 PM

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THG got the 5000+ black edition to 3.3ghz. Its a huge improvement over your 2.2ghz 4200+, however if your mobo is crap like you say, then you probably wont get much overclock.

That's thats the beauty of an unlocked multiplier. There is NO stress on the board(with the exception to adding voltage[something thats not needed to get 2.8-3.0], but its not like cranking the bus speeds)....
October 23, 2007 9:01:46 PM

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To Speedbird, the BE 5000+ will run faster than the X2-6000+ for less money.


Plus BE 5000 runs 3,1GHz at 55 degrees and stock voltage (top load 75W), and 6000+ 3,0GHz at 65 degrees(top load 126W).
October 25, 2007 6:06:50 PM

Anybody else consider the fact the upcoming phenoms are supposed to be AM2 compatible? I think it would be more worth it to upgrade to a quad with a simple drop-in replacement than just getting a simple increase in frequency and the same number of cores. Once multi-threading really gets in its stride the number of cores will really start to make a difference. In my opinion this isn't so far off in the future now that the major consoles are also multi-core, especially the ps3.
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