Games Freezing Problems
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Hi there, i was hoping someone here might be able to help me with a problem.
I have just bought a new machine
Intel Core Duo 2.66GHz
2MB Ram GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Black Dragon DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GB22GB6400C4DC)
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)
Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit.
To go with my machine a got myself a few new games to, this is where the problem lies.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 - Runs like a dream
Flight Simulator X - Appears to run fine
Bioshock - Always crashes at second load screen (although i do believe this is due to game bugs rather than my machine)
FarCry - Always crashes after about 5 min of uninterupted gameplay (always at different points)
Worlds In Conflict - Can play all the tutorials fine but will always crash about 5 min into game play (always at different points)
Half Life 2 - Crashes during video after selecting new game.
All of these crashes are my screen freezing and i can get no response from computer. Only option is to hit the reset button
Basicly does anyone know why all these games keep crashing on me. I got this pc so i could play games of this level without any problems.
I have posted this eleshwere and you can see what has been tried so far below.
http://www.techsupportforum.com/gami...-problems.html
I have also tried running memtest and windiag on individual sticks of memory but they will also freeze on test 4.
All help is much appreciated,
Cheers
Jibber4568
I have just bought a new machine
Intel Core Duo 2.66GHz
2MB Ram GeIL 2GB (2x1GB) PC2-6400C4 800MHz Black Dragon DDR2 Dual Channel Kit (GB22GB6400C4DC)
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R
Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)
Windows Vista Home Premium 32 bit.
To go with my machine a got myself a few new games to, this is where the problem lies.
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 - Runs like a dream
Flight Simulator X - Appears to run fine
Bioshock - Always crashes at second load screen (although i do believe this is due to game bugs rather than my machine)
FarCry - Always crashes after about 5 min of uninterupted gameplay (always at different points)
Worlds In Conflict - Can play all the tutorials fine but will always crash about 5 min into game play (always at different points)
Half Life 2 - Crashes during video after selecting new game.
All of these crashes are my screen freezing and i can get no response from computer. Only option is to hit the reset button
Basicly does anyone know why all these games keep crashing on me. I got this pc so i could play games of this level without any problems.
I have posted this eleshwere and you can see what has been tried so far below.
http://www.techsupportforum.com/gami...-problems.html
I have also tried running memtest and windiag on individual sticks of memory but they will also freeze on test 4.
All help is much appreciated,
Cheers
Jibber4568
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okay, first, please use the html 'url' option so your link works
second, if i read right and the ram came together, they may both be faulty. try it in another machine or other ram in your machine, though i dont know why it would only affect these games :| do you have your page file disabled? that would cause it once your ram is full...
second, if i read right and the ram came together, they may both be faulty. try it in another machine or other ram in your machine, though i dont know why it would only affect these games :| do you have your page file disabled? that would cause it once your ram is full...
Ok please be patient with me as i am a bit new to all of this.
As Badge said i have been trying to increase ram voltage.
CPU-z stated 1.8V (the motherboard default), in bios i then selected +0.02, cpu-z stayed on 1.8 however easytune stated 2.0V. I then increased to 2.1 using Easytune with no improvement however cpu-z still stated 1.8V. Which of these should i trust as i dont think the bios gives me an exact reading just the option to increase.
Kaeota everyting appears to work fine on pc apart from half the games i play (all first person), and trying memtests.
How do i disable page file.
Cheers for the help guys
As Badge said i have been trying to increase ram voltage.
CPU-z stated 1.8V (the motherboard default), in bios i then selected +0.02, cpu-z stayed on 1.8 however easytune stated 2.0V. I then increased to 2.1 using Easytune with no improvement however cpu-z still stated 1.8V. Which of these should i trust as i dont think the bios gives me an exact reading just the option to increase.
Kaeota everyting appears to work fine on pc apart from half the games i play (all first person), and trying memtests.
How do i disable page file.
Cheers for the help guys
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hehe, i am as bad at english as i seem (considering its my first language, i really suck at it). turning your page file off will cause your PC problems, though, in windows, you do it through 'right click on "my computer" go "properties" -> "Advanced" -> 'performance' "settings" ->"advanced" then "Virtual Memory" 'change' '... though i highly doubt you will have turned it off accidentally...
STILL! please fix your link man, forums decrease the size of what shows, so it does NOT work unless you put 'URL'{insertlinkhere}'/URL' (replace the ' with [ and ] respectively) around the link.
STILL! please fix your link man, forums decrease the size of what shows, so it does NOT work unless you put 'URL'{insertlinkhere}'/URL' (replace the ' with [ and ] respectively) around the link.
So, you don't know what voltage you increased? Do not use easytune, use your system BIOS. Open you motherboard manula and under 'BIOS settings and configuration' find memory voltage. Set your memory voltage to 2.0-2.1 in BIOS, not Easy Tune. Also go on Corsair's website and find out what the default voltage for your RAM is.
In my BIOS pc health status i have the current voltage section which states
DDR Voltage [Ok]
Under MB Intelligent Tweaker i have DDR2/DDR3 Overvoltage Control which i have set to +0.4.
Nohting that actually tells me the current voltage.
Default voltage for my ram is 1.9 - 2.1. can go to 2.4 though apparently
DDR Voltage [Ok]
Under MB Intelligent Tweaker i have DDR2/DDR3 Overvoltage Control which i have set to +0.4.
Nohting that actually tells me the current voltage.
Default voltage for my ram is 1.9 - 2.1. can go to 2.4 though apparently
I would run Memtest. You can make a bootable CD here. You may have a faulty DIMM.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html
The PSU is a possibility. I have had my system freeze during gm play and a lot of lines and patterns and colors appear on the screen. I thought for sure one of cards i SLI was cooked. Both cards checked out good individually. I swapped out the PSU and it fixed the freeze up proble. So yes, a faulty PSU could certainly be the cause.
Yeah problem is i dont have any other h/w to try. Am gonna give them a call tomorrow but hoping i can send my psu back and pay the extra for an upgrade to 620W as everything is only 3 weeks old. This is my next port of call.
Is it possible that there can be probs with the video card? If there was, would it still work fine on other games such as Pro Evo 2008 and Flight Simulator X
Is it possible that there can be probs with the video card? If there was, would it still work fine on other games such as Pro Evo 2008 and Flight Simulator X
Take notice if the system crashes during any and all games at some point. Again, if you system crashes during the loading of software, the cause is often faulty RAM. Then again, your problem seems to occur 'sporadically' during different applications. So, it could be caused by something other than RAM. You PSU has good enough power on the 12v. Did you build the system or buy it pre built?
Built the system myself. Is the first one i have ever done form scratch
For half life it just freezes on the game into screen after selecting new game.
Farcry freezes about 5 min into gameplay.
Worlds of Conflict frezzes about 5 min into gameplay.
All of these just simply freeze, the image stays perfectly on the screen and all i can do is hit reset.
This is my case.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...
For half life it just freezes on the game into screen after selecting new game.
Farcry freezes about 5 min into gameplay.
Worlds of Conflict frezzes about 5 min into gameplay.
All of these just simply freeze, the image stays perfectly on the screen and all i can do is hit reset.
This is my case.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA...
Are you using the latest Catalyst driver for your 1950? Get it here:
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
Guys,
Don't forget, there may be nothing wrong with the poor OP's hardware - this could be OS/software problem.
Badge he is saying that he has set +0.4 which means 2.2v (generous!)
Also, CPU-Z is reporting 1.8v on the SPD screen! Which is what the module's rated for, not what you are running.
Now if you're like most people, jibber4568, you have messengers (Yahoo, Google, MSN, AOL, et cetera, ad infinitum) and players (Real, QT, Nero, DivX, etc) not to mention ridiculous overkill software security suites ie. Norton, including all kinds of active scanning and automatic crap running... not to mention auto updates, MS Office, whatever. What's in your Startup folder?
Even if you're not like most people, your problems are at least as likely to be in BIOS seup as in bad hardware, so don't worry.
Give your Windows a good tuneup now, starting with the NTFS disk-check thing that warns you that you must reboot. (You should run at least 1/month.) Cleanup and defrag, then try this: Go to Microsoft downloads and get the DirectX tool dxwebsetup.exe - a small file that will probably find ~22-25MB of DirectX updates for you.
Make sure of course you have installed latest Chipset drivers! You would be shocked how many people don't know anything about that... heheh, >shaking head< But very important the newer your rig is.
Also latest vidcard drivers, and BIOS setup for stability.
Hey, you might have a bad stick too, LoL
hopefully not though.
I realise this is Hardware forum but we must be methodical, and we cannot assume your Windows is running properly jibber4568,
Regards
Don't forget, there may be nothing wrong with the poor OP's hardware - this could be OS/software problem.
Badge he is saying that he has set +0.4 which means 2.2v (generous!)
Also, CPU-Z is reporting 1.8v on the SPD screen! Which is what the module's rated for, not what you are running.
Now if you're like most people, jibber4568, you have messengers (Yahoo, Google, MSN, AOL, et cetera, ad infinitum) and players (Real, QT, Nero, DivX, etc) not to mention ridiculous overkill software security suites ie. Norton, including all kinds of active scanning and automatic crap running... not to mention auto updates, MS Office, whatever. What's in your Startup folder?
Even if you're not like most people, your problems are at least as likely to be in BIOS seup as in bad hardware, so don't worry.
Give your Windows a good tuneup now, starting with the NTFS disk-check thing that warns you that you must reboot. (You should run at least 1/month.) Cleanup and defrag, then try this: Go to Microsoft downloads and get the DirectX tool dxwebsetup.exe - a small file that will probably find ~22-25MB of DirectX updates for you.
Make sure of course you have installed latest Chipset drivers! You would be shocked how many people don't know anything about that... heheh, >shaking head< But very important the newer your rig is.
Also latest vidcard drivers, and BIOS setup for stability.
Hey, you might have a bad stick too, LoL
hopefully not though.I realise this is Hardware forum but we must be methodical, and we cannot assume your Windows is running properly jibber4568,
Regards
Like Systemlord said, take a look at your temps. Did you use the stock 775 cooler? Be sure it is mounted correctly, those are notorious for faulty seating. Try downloading speedfan and check your CPU temp.
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php
I originally just loaded the vista cd,however i loaded the chipset drivers from cd a few days ok. Would you say its still worthwhile going to the gigabyte website and doing it all again. Spose it won't hurt.
Sorry about all these spelling errors i am using an extremely retarded keybpard at the moment
Sorry about all these spelling errors i am using an extremely retarded keybpard at the moment
If your not familiar wth updating the BIOS, you probably shouldn't. Well, we haven't determined if it's hardware or software. I would recomend getting with your friend or people you know and swap out the RAM, then the video card. If you are getting errors/lock ups running RAM stress test, the likliehood of the RAM causing you system lockups is pretty high. I replaced a DIMM (actually removed a DIMM) and had an otherwise computer lock up box turn into a game playing wonder! I still believe your RAM is causing the problem. let us know what you find out and good luck getting your machine running tip top. PSU, CPU cooling are suspect too. Besides a software problem.
badge said:
I would load the latest chipset driver, etc.Yes. And BIOS setup too.
Ack! Vista Home - good luck (but I know I'll need to get into it sooner or later myself, heheh).
Looks like lots of stuff running whilst you're trying to run these games...
Vista guys must be getting new drivers pretty well daily now, or what? LoL It's a busy time, very new hardware.
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