E6750 vs X2 6000

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I am building a computer for a friend and I'm trying to decide on which one of these processors to go with, the E6750 or the X2 6000. The E6750 is about 35 bucks more than the x2 6000. I'm looking at the charts and they seem to have similar performance. I am not going to overclock, so that's out of the discussion. What do you guys think?

If I go with the e6750 I'm going to get this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

and if I go with the x2 6000 I'm going to go with this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128056

thanks in advance!
 
I would say the Intel #6750 just because so far my experience with the Core 2 series has been great. But what you need to do is look at the benchmarks in what you will mainly be doing for both chips and decide based on whichever performs the best in what you want.

So if in encoding/decoding the Intel is faster get it. If in compression or whatever AMD is faster get that.
 

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Id go e6750 8 days of the week... little more expensive but in my opinion a better CPU, From most benchies ive been its slightly quicker, it runs cooler and less power (i believe could be wrong).

The board you are looking at for the AMD is a bit of a contrast difference compared to the Intel board. Looking at you Intel selection for an AMD board i would have gone with this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014 But depends on what you are using it for.
 

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I'm looking at the benchmarks, and the performance between them is just so close that it's very hard to decide. My friend will mainly be using it for gaming. And since gaming depends heavily on the gpu, which cpu to choose is obfuscating me. So if anyone can shed some light on me, that would be appreciated.
 

Both are over priced as dual core are now only reasonable below 70% of the Q6600 price. The Q6600 is $280 so a dual core must be below $168. The E6750 at $195 is clearly to high a price for a dual core. Wait the X2 6000 is $159 at newegg but its price to the next lower CPU is a bit high given its performance. I would suggest The X2 5600+ for $139 as that $20 savings is better spent on a good PSU or GPU.
 

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Yeah I think I might go with the x2 5600 or 6000, but what about the motherboard? Is my choice good?

The difference between the two cpus isn't very noticeable in games since they depend so heavily on a gpu, which I'm getting a 8800 gts for. Anyone have any last suggestions/recommendations?
 

The 690G is noted as getting hot so you will need extra cooling. A case which has a vented fan mount on the door would be advised or a fan to attach to the 690G heatsink. Here is a fan for the heatsink.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185039

Note how the side vent door holds a 90 or 120mm fan over the chip set and GPU. If you have a case like this then a good 120mm fan would help the 690G. Here is a good 120mm fan also.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...sewill+R6422-P+SL+Black/+Silver+Computer+Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835224004

That said a good stand alone GPU is the best choice as even a cheap GPU could easly beat any integrated GPU.
 

But a fool would pay near $200 when you could pay $280 for a Q6600. The price of the E6750 is the problem. Intels dual cores are just no longer reasonable priced as noted by AMD's massive market gains in the last 2 months. Intels only good price CPU is the Q6600, E2180, and E2160 in that order.

The E6750 is just like the FX57 overprice and and short lived performance.

If OCing was an option I would get the E2180.
 

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I really don't want to go through with adding more fans to cool the chipset, but is it really going to get hot? I'm using an antec 900 btw. And I'm not going to use the integrated graphics, I'm going to be using an 8800 gts. So, will it still get warm? If so, what other motherboard do you recommend for around that price?
 
What benchmarks did you find? Are you sure you didnt see GPU limited benchmarks?
Getting a budget motherboard ($80) and putting in an expensive case ($140)?
Why not swap that around with a $140 MB and a $80 case?


 
Considering the E6750 is much faster than the X2 6000+ and use MUCh less power.

When looking at OCing, the E21xx Series and the E6x50 Series again are not comparable. The E2xx Series will OC to beat anything AMD has to offer. The E6x50 Series will beat the E21xx series clock for clock due to a similar architecture but 4x the cache. In addition, while the E21xx series can hit the low to mid 3ghz range, the E6x50 series can hit upper 3ghz to low 4ghz on air cooling.

The Q6600 is also a good deal, but it will not OC as high since the extra cores will require extra cooling, but if you use software that makes use of 4 cores, you are set.

Basically, If you are not going to OC ever, then many AMDs make sense.
(The 6000+ is really too expensive and too hot compared to slightly slower AMDs to make sense in too many cases.)

The Intel 21xx series is great for those willing to OC and on a tight budget.

The Intel 6x50 series is great for those who willing to OC or those who want the most performance and are willing to pay for the higher clocked ones.

The Q6600 is great for those who don't need alot of power now, but want their CPU to powerful in the future as more and more software begins to make use of more than 4 cores. Some people may already be using such software and is a no brainer for them.
The E2180 will OC to beat any stock dual core both Intel and AMD so its a very good price. The 6x50 would have to OC to 5.2GHz to match an OC'ed quad in quad core compatible programs. The dual 6x50 struggle to stay ahead of the quads in dual core optimized programs. The dual 6x50's are less responsive when going back to windows that quads and losses with most any other programs running. For the price the 6x50 no matter the OC will get killed by penry so not worth the price.
The Q6600 will hold its value longer and the E2xx performance is more price wise reasonable. The 6x50 are priced to performance a bad choice as the FX57 was a year after the dual cores arrived.
 

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I'm getting the antec 900 for $90 WR2, and tell me, what's the difference between an $80 and a $140 motherboard other than the bells and whistles that I'm not going to use?
 

With a stand alone GPU you shouldn't even get a mobo with an integrated gpu. I would suggest a good SLI mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014
 

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Why bother with SLI if the cards will operate at x8 instead of x16? Or will the gigabyte one operate at x16? I just really don't care about SLI, it's just an extra basically.
 

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Yeah, since the performance difference between both processors is minimal in gaming I'm going to go with the x2 6000, now my only dilemma is finding a good motherboard to go with it.
 

Currently no single GPU can use the full bandwidth of X16. There are benchmarks showing that the GTX does suffer in SLI on 8X but you have a GTS. The SLI & crossfire mobos are the only good quality none integrated gpu mobo's. The Integrated chipset has show to also hurt performance far worst while using a stand alone GPU. This only applys to the MSI as it uses the 500 SLI the Gigabyte uses the 570 SLI which is 16X on both.

Other problems such as the integrate chipset dies it kills your mobo. Unless your going to use the integrated chipset I would pass on them completely for a stand alone GPU.

Note both those SLI mobos are full ATX and not micro as you G690. The Gigabyte SLI 570 is a 16GB mobo and the MSI 500 SLI is only 8GB's.
 

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Yeah I guess I'll go with the sli motherboard, the gigabyte one, correct? You put the 8800 GTS in the slot closest to the cpu right? Would I need any drivers since I'm using a sli motherboard? or would be the same?
 

Correct and the drivers for the mobos are always not the same as your GPU. While both are Nvidia you will need Nvidia's mobo drivers for 500 series. However always check the mobo makers site for drivers as they may have special drivers for networking or other addon components.