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October 20, 2007 1:44:06 AM

I am building a computer for a friend and I'm trying to decide on which one of these processors to go with, the E6750 or the X2 6000. The E6750 is about 35 bucks more than the x2 6000. I'm looking at the charts and they seem to have similar performance. I am not going to overclock, so that's out of the discussion. What do you guys think?

If I go with the e6750 I'm going to get this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and if I go with the x2 6000 I'm going to go with this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thanks in advance!

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October 20, 2007 1:52:46 AM

I would say the Intel #6750 just because so far my experience with the Core 2 series has been great. But what you need to do is look at the benchmarks in what you will mainly be doing for both chips and decide based on whichever performs the best in what you want.

So if in encoding/decoding the Intel is faster get it. If in compression or whatever AMD is faster get that.
October 20, 2007 1:55:26 AM

Id go e6750 8 days of the week... little more expensive but in my opinion a better CPU, From most benchies ive been its slightly quicker, it runs cooler and less power (i believe could be wrong).

The board you are looking at for the AMD is a bit of a contrast difference compared to the Intel board. Looking at you Intel selection for an AMD board i would have gone with this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014 But depends on what you are using it for.
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October 20, 2007 1:55:47 AM

I'm looking at the benchmarks, and the performance between them is just so close that it's very hard to decide. My friend will mainly be using it for gaming. And since gaming depends heavily on the gpu, which cpu to choose is obfuscating me. So if anyone can shed some light on me, that would be appreciated.
October 20, 2007 1:59:00 AM

How is the amd board different? The one you chose is sli, the intel one isn't :p  You're so silly chookman
October 20, 2007 5:11:31 AM

Bump! Anything wrong with my motherboard choice for the x2 6000? Not really interested in sli.
October 20, 2007 2:17:40 PM

E6750.

I prefer the mothgerboards for Intel CPU's too.
October 20, 2007 2:59:51 PM

nightscope said:
I am building a computer for a friend and I'm trying to decide on which one of these processors to go with, the E6750 or the X2 6000. The E6750 is about 35 bucks more than the x2 6000. I'm looking at the charts and they seem to have similar performance. I am not going to overclock, so that's out of the discussion. What do you guys think?

If I go with the e6750 I'm going to get this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and if I go with the x2 6000 I'm going to go with this motherboard: (unless you have other suggestions)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

thanks in advance!

Both are over priced as dual core are now only reasonable below 70% of the Q6600 price. The Q6600 is $280 so a dual core must be below $168. The E6750 at $195 is clearly to high a price for a dual core. Wait the X2 6000 is $159 at newegg but its price to the next lower CPU is a bit high given its performance. I would suggest The X2 5600+ for $139 as that $20 savings is better spent on a good PSU or GPU.
October 20, 2007 3:01:44 PM

Yeah I think I might go with the x2 5600 or 6000, but what about the motherboard? Is my choice good?

The difference between the two cpus isn't very noticeable in games since they depend so heavily on a gpu, which I'm getting a 8800 gts for. Anyone have any last suggestions/recommendations?
October 20, 2007 3:45:34 PM

nightscope said:
Yeah I think I might go with the x2 5600 or 6000, but what about the motherboard? Is my choice good?

The difference between the two cpus isn't very noticeable in games since they depend so heavily on a gpu, which I'm getting a 8800 gts for. Anyone have any last suggestions/recommendations?

The 690G is noted as getting hot so you will need extra cooling. A case which has a vented fan mount on the door would be advised or a fan to attach to the 690G heatsink. Here is a fan for the heatsink.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185039

Note how the side vent door holds a 90 or 120mm fan over the chip set and GPU. If you have a case like this then a good 120mm fan would help the 690G. Here is a good 120mm fan also.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=11-147-065-12.jpg&Image=11-147-065-16.jpg%2c11-147-065-02.jpg%2c11-147-065-03.jpg%2c11-147-065-04.jpg%2c11-147-065-05.jpg%2c11-147-065-06.jpg%2c11-147-065-07.jpg%2c11-147-065-09.jpg%2c11-147-065-10.jpg%2c11-147-065-11.jpg%2c11-147-065-12.jpg%2c11-147-065-13.jpg%2c11-147-065-14.jpg%2c11-147-065-15.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=Rosewill+R6422-P+SL+Black%2f+Silver+Computer+Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835224004

That said a good stand alone GPU is the best choice as even a cheap GPU could easly beat any integrated GPU.
October 20, 2007 3:58:51 PM

but a fool would go for the 6000, the 6750 is the only real option.
October 20, 2007 4:08:59 PM

dobby said:
but a fool would go for the 6000, the 6750 is the only real option.

But a fool would pay near $200 when you could pay $280 for a Q6600. The price of the E6750 is the problem. Intels dual cores are just no longer reasonable priced as noted by AMD's massive market gains in the last 2 months. Intels only good price CPU is the Q6600, E2180, and E2160 in that order.

The E6750 is just like the FX57 overprice and and short lived performance.

If OCing was an option I would get the E2180.
October 20, 2007 4:29:51 PM

:cry: . o O (No one likes the E4000 series anymore!!)

Owell... :lol: 
October 20, 2007 4:34:39 PM

I really don't want to go through with adding more fans to cool the chipset, but is it really going to get hot? I'm using an antec 900 btw. And I'm not going to use the integrated graphics, I'm going to be using an 8800 gts. So, will it still get warm? If so, what other motherboard do you recommend for around that price?
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October 20, 2007 4:40:58 PM

nightscope said:
I'm looking at the benchmarks, and the performance between them is just so close that it's very hard to decide.
What benchmarks did you find? Are you sure you didnt see GPU limited benchmarks?
Getting a budget motherboard ($80) and putting in an expensive case ($140)?
Why not swap that around with a $140 MB and a $80 case?


October 20, 2007 4:41:24 PM

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Considering the E6750 is much faster than the X2 6000+ and use MUCh less power.

When looking at OCing, the E21xx Series and the E6x50 Series again are not comparable. The E2xx Series will OC to beat anything AMD has to offer. The E6x50 Series will beat the E21xx series clock for clock due to a similar architecture but 4x the cache. In addition, while the E21xx series can hit the low to mid 3ghz range, the E6x50 series can hit upper 3ghz to low 4ghz on air cooling.

The Q6600 is also a good deal, but it will not OC as high since the extra cores will require extra cooling, but if you use software that makes use of 4 cores, you are set.

Basically, If you are not going to OC ever, then many AMDs make sense.
(The 6000+ is really too expensive and too hot compared to slightly slower AMDs to make sense in too many cases.)

The Intel 21xx series is great for those willing to OC and on a tight budget.

The Intel 6x50 series is great for those who willing to OC or those who want the most performance and are willing to pay for the higher clocked ones.

The Q6600 is great for those who don't need alot of power now, but want their CPU to powerful in the future as more and more software begins to make use of more than 4 cores. Some people may already be using such software and is a no brainer for them.

The E2180 will OC to beat any stock dual core both Intel and AMD so its a very good price. The 6x50 would have to OC to 5.2GHz to match an OC'ed quad in quad core compatible programs. The dual 6x50 struggle to stay ahead of the quads in dual core optimized programs. The dual 6x50's are less responsive when going back to windows that quads and losses with most any other programs running. For the price the 6x50 no matter the OC will get killed by penry so not worth the price.
The Q6600 will hold its value longer and the E2xx performance is more price wise reasonable. The 6x50 are priced to performance a bad choice as the FX57 was a year after the dual cores arrived.
October 20, 2007 4:45:01 PM

I'm getting the antec 900 for $90 WR2, and tell me, what's the difference between an $80 and a $140 motherboard other than the bells and whistles that I'm not going to use?
October 20, 2007 4:47:25 PM

nightscope said:
I really don't want to go through with adding more fans to cool the chipset, but is it really going to get hot? I'm using an antec 900 btw. And I'm not going to use the integrated graphics, I'm going to be using an 8800 gts. So, will it still get warm? If so, what other motherboard do you recommend for around that price?

With a stand alone GPU you shouldn't even get a mobo with an integrated gpu. I would suggest a good SLI mobo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130071
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128014
October 20, 2007 5:04:18 PM

NOT GERMAINE TO THE THREAD
October 20, 2007 5:04:52 PM

Why bother with SLI if the cards will operate at x8 instead of x16? Or will the gigabyte one operate at x16? I just really don't care about SLI, it's just an extra basically.
October 20, 2007 5:16:42 PM

Yeah, since the performance difference between both processors is minimal in gaming I'm going to go with the x2 6000, now my only dilemma is finding a good motherboard to go with it.
October 20, 2007 5:24:36 PM

nightscope said:
Why bother with SLI if the cards will operate at x8 instead of x16? Or will the gigabyte one operate at x16? I just really don't care about SLI, it's just an extra basically.

Currently no single GPU can use the full bandwidth of X16. There are benchmarks showing that the GTX does suffer in SLI on 8X but you have a GTS. The SLI & crossfire mobos are the only good quality none integrated gpu mobo's. The Integrated chipset has show to also hurt performance far worst while using a stand alone GPU. This only applys to the MSI as it uses the 500 SLI the Gigabyte uses the 570 SLI which is 16X on both.

Other problems such as the integrate chipset dies it kills your mobo. Unless your going to use the integrated chipset I would pass on them completely for a stand alone GPU.

Note both those SLI mobos are full ATX and not micro as you G690. The Gigabyte SLI 570 is a 16GB mobo and the MSI 500 SLI is only 8GB's.
October 20, 2007 5:31:04 PM

Yeah I guess I'll go with the sli motherboard, the gigabyte one, correct? You put the 8800 GTS in the slot closest to the cpu right? Would I need any drivers since I'm using a sli motherboard? or would be the same?
October 20, 2007 5:35:10 PM

nightscope said:
Yeah I guess I'll go with the sli motherboard, the gigabyte one, correct? You put the 8800 GTS in the slot closest to the cpu right? Would I need any drivers since I'm using a sli motherboard? or would be the same?

Correct and the drivers for the mobos are always not the same as your GPU. While both are Nvidia you will need Nvidia's mobo drivers for 500 series. However always check the mobo makers site for drivers as they may have special drivers for networking or other addon components.
October 20, 2007 6:19:56 PM

So I would need to download the 500 series motherboard 500 series drivers AND the gpu drivers from the nvidia site?
October 21, 2007 2:56:05 AM

Go with the X2 6000+ and a good AM2 board. LGA 775 is a dead end once nehalem comes out. AM2 has a much longer life ahead of it and will support Phenom x4 and AM3 CPUs.

October 21, 2007 3:51:09 AM

elbert said:
Both are over priced as dual core are now only reasonable below 70% of the Q6600 price. The Q6600 is $280 so a dual core must be below $168. The E6750 at $195 is clearly to high a price for a dual core. Wait the X2 6000 is $159 at newegg but its price to the next lower CPU is a bit high given its performance. I would suggest The X2 5600+ for $139 as that $20 savings is better spent on a good PSU or GPU.

Huh? and Huh? First of all, 70% of $280 is $196, so it would seem the $195 E6750 is right on the money. and how do you figure out that "70% of a Q6600" figure anyways. $84 is a big difference between going with say an e6750 and a q6600.

My personal preference would be for the e6750 primarily because it runs cooler and takes less power. I value quiet so the lower power=less cooling needed=slower fan speeds=quiet. But the 6000+ is a great proc also. I can't see how you could go wrong with either given your parameters.
October 21, 2007 4:22:51 AM

q6600 all the way.
October 21, 2007 9:14:25 PM

bitrate said:
Go with the X2 6000+ and a good AM2 board. LGA 775 is a dead end once nehalem comes out. AM2 has a much longer life ahead of it and will support Phenom x4 and AM3 CPUs.




I agree here. You can upgrade next year with Phenom X2/3/4
October 22, 2007 12:04:26 AM

@NightScope
How is the amd board different? The one you chose is sli, the intel one isn't You're so silly chookman

They are different the AMD on is micro ATX and it had onboard video. Where as the Intel board you have is a P35 chipset which is widely regarded as the best single GPU solution out there. The AMD board is focused on workstation, SFF cases and not performance based. Whereas the P35 is a highend part designed for performance and Gamming systems. They are different ends of the scale, the board i suggested for the AMD system is still in your price range by the looks and gives a more gaming and performance feel. Just cause its got SLI doesnt mean you have to use it.
October 22, 2007 12:46:18 AM

bliq said:
Huh? and Huh? First of all, 70% of $280 is $196, so it would seem the $195 E6750 is right on the money. and how do you figure out that "70% of a Q6600" figure anyways. $84 is a big difference between going with say an e6750 and a q6600.

My personal preference would be for the e6750 primarily because it runs cooler and takes less power. I value quiet so the lower power=less cooling needed=slower fan speeds=quiet. But the 6000+ is a great proc also. I can't see how you could go wrong with either given your parameters.


And you have to consider Budget.
While we are not arguing that the Q6600 is a bad CPU, it definitely adds to the cost of the system.
It runs warmer and uses more power.

If you are not running apps that make use of 4 cores it may not make sense.
Also depending on the length until an upgrade, it may also may not make sense if you will be considering moving to
Penryn with faster (Per Clock and Total Clocks) and cooler Quad Cores.

October 22, 2007 1:39:24 AM

The x2 boards are less expensive and have a longer usage window. You can pay more and get more for now, bit long term TCO favors AMD.
October 22, 2007 9:47:08 PM

Yeah, you're right chookman, I'll probably go with the SLI board. Doesn't hurt to have a good upgrade path anyways. Also, is the 8800 GT worth the wait? And how much is it going to be?
October 23, 2007 12:00:09 AM

All current rumours point toward... better performance then the 8800GTS and around $250... if that holds true YES it will be worth the wait.
October 23, 2007 12:47:35 AM

onestar said:
The x2 boards are less expensive and have a longer usage window. You can pay more and get more for now, bit long term TCO favors AMD.


If you are getting into TCO, you start to have issues with AMD.
The Intel Chips are less power hungry both under idle and load.

While the total price difference saved will be small over 1-2 years, it easily beats the cost difference in the chips.
October 29, 2007 1:18:39 PM

I seem to recall conflicting data in CPU power consumption. The X2 boards span well as well as cost less. Initial outlay easily favors AMD.
As far as power consumption, I see a wide region of disagreement which could possibly be some confusion over the newer Intel chips.
October 29, 2007 2:53:55 PM

The 8800 GT is looking very good.
November 6, 2007 10:34:11 PM

Yes, the 8800 Gt is a winner.
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