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January 20, 2008 8:40:15 PM

For my new computer..I wanna set up RAID 0. I plan to get a cheap HDD and put the os and system crap on it only then get like a 250 or 320GB HDD and store my music, pictures on that. QUESTION is .. will RAID work with two different HDD?

EDIT: PART 2. I want to dual boot xp and vista on this new pc.. that will be fine with raid? or.. wouldnt i need each OS on its own hdd

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January 20, 2008 8:44:00 PM

Posting this in the OC section won't really help...

I suggest you to move it to the cpu section.

And to your answer, yes Raid will work with 2 different HDD. The one with the smaller capacity will replace both HD though. For example, the 320GB HD will turn into a 250GB HD if you raid it with a 250GB HD.
January 20, 2008 8:46:28 PM

RAID 0 has nothing to do with this.
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January 20, 2008 8:48:23 PM

cnumartyr said:
RAID 0 has nothing to do with this.

Well the HD section is quite dead, so the next choice would be cpu.

Unless you're going to OC the HD...
January 20, 2008 8:50:07 PM

Well, i'm building a new computer and I want to install raid, just deciding on parts and if i can save $20 lol.
Case~ RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB Black SECC STEEL ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CPU~ Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775
Motherboard~ GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM~ Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel
GPU~ E-vga Nvidia GF8800GTS @ 576/864MHz
Hard Drives~ Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s SATA
Monitor~ CHIMEI CMV 221D Black 22" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 330 cd/m2 800:1
PSU~ XION Supernova XON-600F14R-201 ATX12V 600W
DVD/CD Drive~ SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner
January 20, 2008 8:50:26 PM

Evilonigiri said:
Well the HD section is quite dead, so the next choice would be cpu.

Unless you're going to OC the HD...


No, I mean RAID 0 has nothing to do with installing an OS on a cheap HD and all files on another. That's just called having 2 HDDs. This isn't any kind of RAID.

Making it a RAID would be.. having 2 Cheap HDDs to install the OS and games on in RAID 0 and having a 3rd HDD for music and movies and perhaps an image of the RAID.
January 20, 2008 8:51:23 PM

Is the GPU a 320/640 version?

If so I recommend going to a GT which is a better performer

Edit: nvm....I see you already have the graphics card

Also why are you getting Crucial Ram when you already have some Corsair
January 20, 2008 8:52:44 PM

If you are building a new computer I would advise doing some research.

E8400 > E6750.
8800 GTS G92 > 8800 GTS G80

Also, Gigabyte sucks.
January 20, 2008 8:53:08 PM

Yes, it's the 8800GTS 320MB. I already own it... it's the only component that i'm moving from my old PC. I have a ATI x800 GTO that will go in the old one
January 20, 2008 8:53:58 PM

cnumartyr said:
Also, Gigabyte sucks.


ughhh.....not this again :pt1cable: 

@OP: dont even bother to ask him why, take the advice from experience
January 20, 2008 8:55:44 PM

cnumartyr said:
Also, Gigabyte sucks.

'Scuse me?

To the OP, don't bother with raid. Get the WD7500AAKS and be done with it. It's one of the fastest HD out there.
January 20, 2008 8:56:35 PM

WOW! thank you cnumrtyr. Newegg.com doesn't supply the 8400 yet so i had no idea.. 6mb L2, 3.0ghz ^^!

January 20, 2008 8:56:42 PM

Evilonigiri said:
'Scuse me?

To the OP, don't bother with raid. Get the WD7500AAKS and be done with it. It's one of the fastest HD out there.


Lol, I won't side track another thread with how much I hate Gigabyte.. BUT.

I will say to the OP: Follow Evil's advice on the HDD part of it.
January 20, 2008 9:01:42 PM

cowspoo said:
WOW! thank you cnumrtyr. Newegg.com doesn't supply the 8400 yet so i had no idea.. 6mb L2, 3.0ghz ^^!


I would also get a Transcend DDR2-800 kit over the Ballistix PC2-8500 and save some more money. You aren't going to notice a different.

Any board should be easy to get that E8400 up to 400x9 and 1:1 with the DDR2-800. Should be a pretty powerful computer.

I would suggest an 8800 GTS 512 MB or 8800 GT 512 MB when you can afford it.
January 20, 2008 9:02:01 PM

Okay, but the WD2500KS appears to have the exact specs besides being a 250GB not a 750... 250 is perfect. How is it faster?
January 20, 2008 9:03:18 PM

cowspoo said:
Okay, but the WD2500KS appears to have the exact specs besides being a 250GB not a 750... 250 is perfect. How is it faster?

Problem is, the WD7500AAKS is faster. Uses PMR tech.
January 20, 2008 9:04:07 PM

Evilonigiri said:
Problem is, the WD7500AAKS is faster. Uses PMR tech.


I'm going to ask you HDD questions from now on. :kaola: 
January 20, 2008 9:04:51 PM

cnumartyr said:
I would also get a Transcend DDR2-800 kit over the Ballistix PC2-8500 and save some more money. You aren't going to notice a different.

Actually if he isn't going to OC, he should buy the cheapest DDR2-800MHz ram. From a trusted comapny of course. It's all the same anyways...
January 20, 2008 9:05:44 PM

cnumartyr said:
I'm going to ask you HDD questions from now on. :kaola: 

:D 
January 20, 2008 9:05:49 PM

Evilonigiri said:
Actually if he isn't going to OC, he should buy the cheapest DDR2-800MHz ram. From a trusted comapny of course. It's all the same anyways...


Yes and No... The Transcend Kit is one of the FEW kits I've ever seen with JEDEC standard voltage (1.8v) and 4-4-4-12 at DDR2-800. That is why I love the kit. It's also $50 last time I checked for 2 GB.


Edit: Oddly enough I can't find that kit anywhere either. DDR2-1200 for $115
January 20, 2008 9:07:51 PM

cnumartyr said:
Yes and No... The Transcend Kit is one of the FEW kits I've ever seen with JEDEC standard voltage (1.8v) and 4-4-4-12 at DDR2-800. That is why I love the kit. It's also $50 last time I checked for 2 GB.

So my Patriot ram, although specified to run at 2.2v at 4-4-4-12, runs on 1.9v 800MHz at 4-4-4-12.

+.1, not too bad for $30 when I got it.
January 20, 2008 9:08:07 PM

Haha, i'm going to Overclock. I didn't want to be stuck at 400FSB which is why i opted for the pc2-1066. Although, i've got corsair xms2 6400 667 and.. the fsb is at 367mhz not 333. Ram timings are at 4:5 lol. let me adjust my config for this forums
January 20, 2008 9:09:58 PM

Evilonigiri said:
So my Patriot ram, although specified to run at 2.2v at 4-4-4-12, runs on 1.9v 800MHz at 4-4-4-12.

+.1, not too bad for $30 when I got it.


I had my Ballistix running at 1.8v (didnt know I had to increase it)
That seems good for $50 without overclocking attempts
January 20, 2008 9:10:48 PM

Apparently noone at all sells the AxeRam kit from Transcend anymore. That's ashame, it was a great deal.

Don't opt for the 1066. Just get some DDR2-800 Ballistix and odds are it will OC to 1066. It's just cheaper.

Evil, are you bragging? :kaola: 
January 20, 2008 9:12:26 PM

cowspoo said:
Haha, i'm going to Overclock. I didn't want to be stuck at 400FSB which is why i opted for the pc2-1066. Although, i've got corsair xms2 6400 667 and.. the fsb is at 367mhz not 333. Ram timings are at 4:5 lol. let me adjust my config for this forums

You aren't going to see a difference from 1:1 and 5:4. So just set the ratio to 1.

The E6750 has a multiplier of x8 I believe. Thus, 400MHz x 8 = 3.2Ghz. Unless you're going to OC higher than 3.2GHz, Pretty much any ram will do. I'd go along with cnumartyr's suggestion though.

I can provide that trusty anandtech link if need be...
January 20, 2008 9:13:34 PM

cnumartyr said:
Evil, are you bragging? :kaola: 

I don't know what you're talking about :whistle: 

*Secretly kicks himself*
January 20, 2008 9:18:34 PM

Evilonigiri said:
You aren't going to see a difference from 1:1 and 5:4. So just set the ratio to 1.

The E6750 has a multiplier of x8 I believe. Thus, 400MHz x 8 = 3.2Ghz. Unless you're going to OC higher than 3.2GHz, Pretty much any ram will do. I'd go along with cnumartyr's suggestion though.

I can provide that trusty anandtech link if need be...


If it wasn't for my DFI motherboard putting the 370mhz cap on the fsb then i'd be already at or above 3.2 with my 6400 ... someone got it stable at 3.6. The e8400 is stock 3.0ghz why not get 4.0? That's what i want to shoot for
January 20, 2008 9:19:45 PM

cowspoo said:
If it wasn't for my DFI motherboard putting the 370mhz cap on the fsb then i'd be already at or above 3.2 with my 6400 ... someone got it stable at 3.6. The e8400 is stock 3.0ghz why not get 4.0? That's what i want to shoot for


450*9 = 4 GHz. It's easily doable on air and has been done numerous times already.

That just means DDR2-900. Any decent DDR2-800 kit with heat sinks on it will do this. Hell my Transcend DDR2-800 kit worked at DDR2-1200.
January 20, 2008 9:21:42 PM

cnumartyr said:
Hell my Transcend DDR2-800 kit worked at DDR2-1200.

*Ahem* :kaola: 
January 20, 2008 9:22:30 PM

Evilonigiri said:
*Ahem* :kaola: 


You want it? It's sitting on my desk. I have Ballistix in the computer right now... I actually like the Transcend better.
January 20, 2008 9:24:17 PM

yeah yeah yeah

Transcend this and Transcend that, so y do you have the Ballistix in right now.
January 20, 2008 9:25:37 PM

lol. cnumartyr " 2 GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1066 (Been OC'd to DDR2-1200 with success)
2 Seagate 160 GB Barracudas in RAID 0 " you already have two of the features of my future computer.. however, you're supporting other hardware.

@evil: if PMR is in the WD7500AAKS.. why haven't the numbers improved?
Brand Western Digital Western Digital
Series Caviar SE16 Caviar SE16
Interface SATA 3.0Gb/s SATA 3.0Gb/s
Capacity 500GB 750GB
RPM 7200 RPM 7200 RPM
Cache 16MB 16MB
Average Seek Time 8.9ms 8.9ms
Average Write Time 10.9ms 10.9ms
Average Latency 4.2ms 4.2ms
January 20, 2008 9:26:20 PM

Silverion77 said:
yeah yeah yeah

Transcend this and Transcend that, so y do you have the Ballistix in right now.


I'm too lazy to take them out and put the Transcend back in.

The 0906 BIOS for the P5K-E has a 3:4 memory divider in it so running 400 MHz FSB gives me 1066 MHz memory. I'm just running the Ballistix at rated speed right now.
January 20, 2008 9:27:13 PM

cnumartyr said:
You want it? It's sitting on my desk. I have Ballistix in the computer right now... I actually like the Transcend better.

I would gladly take it.

Only problem is, I have 4GB of ram, that is 4x1GB in my system on my crappy P35C DS3R. That mobo is picky you know. Probably won't work with the Transcend.
January 20, 2008 9:28:56 PM

Evilonigiri said:
I would gladly take it.

Only problem is, I have 4GB of ram, that is 4x1GB in my system on my crappy P35C DS3R. That mobo is picky you know. Probably won't work with the Transcend.



If I had known you better when I got my P5K-E... I gave my DFI Blood Iron to this chick I know. I have an X1950 Pro sitting next to me as well with the IceQ Cooler on it from HIS. Haven't gotten around to doing anything with it. Also have a 650W CM Real Power Pro and a Lian Li PC70B sitting around. I might throw a new build together next month.. I don't know.

I do really want to build a cheap budget system for under $600 and see what I can do with it on all air.
January 20, 2008 9:30:46 PM

cowspoo said:
@evil: if PMR is in the WD7500AAKS.. why haven't the numbers improved?
Brand Western Digital Western Digital
Series Caviar SE16 Caviar SE16
Interface SATA 3.0Gb/s SATA 3.0Gb/s
Capacity 500GB 750GB
RPM 7200 RPM 7200 RPM
Cache 16MB 16MB
Average Seek Time 8.9ms 8.9ms
Average Write Time 10.9ms 10.9ms
Average Latency 4.2ms 4.2ms

Those are response times.

Practically all HDs that run at 7200RPM has the same response time. You know, it takes awhile for the HD to spin up and load. The faster RPM, usually the faster the response time. Just look at the Raptor. It's a 10,000RPM drive with good response time. But when it comes to read and write performance, the 7500AAKS beats it. For less.
January 20, 2008 9:35:00 PM

cnumartyr said:
If I had known you better when I got my P5K-E... I gave my DFI Blood Iron to this chick I know.

That wouldn't be Kiki would it? :kaola: 
cnumartyr said:
I have an X1950 Pro sitting next to me as well with the IceQ Cooler on it from HIS. Haven't gotten around to doing anything with it. Also have a 650W CM Real Power Pro and a Lian Li PC70B sitting around. I might throw a new build together next month.. I don't know.

How much are you willing to sell that X1950 Pro? I might buy it for my friend, whose in desperate need of a better vidcard.

On second thought...how will I be able to send the money without my parents noticing? :fou: 
January 20, 2008 9:38:28 PM

Evilonigiri said:
That wouldn't be Kiki would it? :kaola: 

How much are you willing to sell that X1950 Pro? I might buy it for my friend, whose in desperate need of a better vidcard.

On second thought...how will I be able to send the money without my parents noticing? :fou: 


Lol.. I have no idea. It's a HIS X1950 Pro 512 MB that I payed $200 for. It's never been OC'd actually. Still in the original packaging. 590 MHz core and 1540 MHz DDRR3. Send me a PM about it if you are interested in it.. trust me it'd be cheap. It played TF2 Maxed out.

And no.. it wasn't Kiki, she's not into computers. It was to Lauren. If you can figure out a way, let me know.
January 20, 2008 9:44:09 PM

cnumartyr said:
Lol.. I have no idea. It's a HIS X1950 Pro 512 MB that I payed $200 for. It's never been OC'd actually. Still in the original packaging. 590 MHz core and 1540 MHz DDRR3. Send me a PM about it if you are interested in it.. trust me it'd be cheap. It played TF2 Maxed out.

And no.. it wasn't Kiki, she's not into computers. It was to Lauren. If you can figure out a way, let me know.

Just Aimed my friend. He isn't interested, sadly.

He always would complain that his pc sucks but he never does anything about it. Sorta ticks me off.
January 20, 2008 9:51:08 PM

cowspoo said:
ah! Thanks for clarifying that for me :) 

okay so...hmm this explained what pmr is http://www.harddiskdriverevolution.com/perpendicular.ht...

That is the only HDD with it? :(  ( looking for something like.... $50 cheaper

Well see PMR is really meant for larger HDs. It'd be pointless to do it on a small sized HD.

I have the WD3200AAKS. It's pretty good, very fast.
January 21, 2008 5:41:28 PM

I found a better HDD! The WD7500AAKS has a 6mb cache, 750gb and it's $149. The better one is seagate ST3500320AS it has a 32mb cache, 500gb hd and its only $110
January 21, 2008 5:43:48 PM

cowspoo said:
I found a better HDD! The WD7500AAKS has a 6mb cache, 750gb and it's $149. The better one is seagate ST3500320AS it has a 32mb cache, 500gb hd and its only $110

If you look at the cache, yeah it's better.

I'm not sure about which performs better. I'll look it up.
January 21, 2008 5:44:40 PM

Evilonigiri said:
If you look at the cache, yeah it's better.

I'm not sure about which performs better. I'll look it up.


Where the hell have you been all day?
January 21, 2008 5:48:53 PM

Im reading some reviews and people say that the .10 is faster but seagates site says that the .10 is only the average drive..

It's not very popular, maybe it's new but check the ST3320820A credibility.

If i can save money by going with a lower sized drive then i would want that instead
January 21, 2008 5:50:06 PM

cnumartyr said:
Where the hell have you been all day?

Hey, I have finals coming up.

I can't be online every second!

To cowspoo:

Don't be fooled by the large cache. 16MB is sufficient. The WD7500AAKS is only second to some 1000GB HD, which costs a fortune.
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