Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 OR Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 ?

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Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 OR Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 ?
both cost the some
which one is the best?
i am going to use this computer for video edting and gaming..
please help
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If you plan to OC then Q6600... if not then E6850.

Reply to sedaine

Q6600 for sure

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Reply to yomamafor1

Q6600. It's more future proof. Crysis will make use of the extra cores (and Alan Wake, etc....)

Reply to Avenger_K

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/1 [...] rocessing/

Tom's just did a article comparing single, dual, and quad processors with different benchmarks

I say go for the Quad

Reply to bc4

but in most cases i see that e6850 is faster than the q6600

Reply to zisman

I think people are getting too carried away with the Quad, Octa marketing.

If there was a 6.0Ghz single core CPU that would be awesome.

A lot of people seem to think you cannot multi-task with a single CPU. This is possible and the idle will for sometime be a really fast single core.

Reply to sedaine

but you'll see substantial speed up in video editing if you have more cores than more speed.

As for games, you'll beginning to see games that take advantage of multi-cores, rather than high clockspeeds.

EDIT:

Anandtech did a CPU review for UT3.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3127&p=4

Message edited by yomamafor1 on 10-21-2007 at 11:39:41 PM

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Reply to yomamafor1

zisman wrote :

hi
Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 OR Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 ?
both cost the some
which one is the best?
i am going to use this computer for video edting and gaming..
please help
thanks'

Q6600 no ifs ands or buts. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] 600_6.html

Every month programs even games will move toward 4 core optimization so those benchmarks will just keep moving in the favor of Q6600.

Reply to elbert

the q6600 working on 1026fbs
e6850 working on 1333fbs
isnt it faster ?
so why q6600?

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Reply to zisman

Wait for quads at 1333fbs imo

Reply to Archy

@archy
Wait for quads at 1333fbs imo

Why? the Q6600 is cheap now and in most cases OCing would get you to somewhere around 1333"FSB" anyways. All beit lowering the multiplier.
FSB bottlenecking the most talk about it just about non-existant. The only reason would be to get a slightly more "up-to date" part.

Reply to chookman

q6600 will last you longer and won't take a ,assive hit in performance especially if you OC it to 1333fsb speeds

Reply to decripple

hmmm, the E6850 is overclockable to 4.4GHz (water), nothing uses quad core atm so pretty much pointless - might aswell have the extra clock speed on cores with E6850 - by the time developers pull theyre fingers out will be loads of new quad-core cpu's (cheaper)... Thats why the Q6600 is cheap lol..........

Reply to WazzaUK

zisman wrote :

the q6600 working on 1026fbs
e6850 working on 1333fbs
isnt it faster ?
so why q6600?

Because having a faster interconnect buys you next to nothing on desktops.

------------------------------ Intel will not take the top spot, or probably the top 3 spot back for the forseeable future. Not even with 32nm and more cores will intel be able to beat Jaguar. - JennyH the AMDiot, Nov 2009
Reply to yomamafor1

i dont know what to choose
i dont think of doing oc on py computer even do i have water cooling system
what is the fbs speed? from what i know is the speed of data movment on the mainboard or somthing like that...

Reply to zisman

The front side bus (FSB) or system bus is the physical bi-directional bus that carries all electronic signal information between the central processing unit (CPU) and the northbridge.

Most modern front side buses serve as a backbone between the CPU and a chipset. This chipset (usually a combination of a northbridge and a southbridge) is the connection point for all other buses in the system. Buses like the PCI, AGP, and memory buses all connect to the chipset to allow for data to flow between the connected devices. These secondary system buses usually run at speeds derived from the front side bus speed.

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Reply to WazzaUK

frig whats with all the BS on this post?

FSB 1066 vs FSB 1333 is next to nothing - P6 based cpu's arnt FSB Hungry!

The Q6600 runs 600mhz slower then the E6850 - big deal, OVERCLOCK THE Q6600 TO 3GHZ/FSB1333.

Single cores are out, and 6ghz is nothing (a stock E6600 beats a P4 @ 7.4ghz at SuperPi)

The future is multiple cores, if you have the $$$ then get the quad, dont listen to all this BS.

Just take a look at Anandtech's UT3 benchmarks - Next generation gaming is almost here and is using multiple cores.

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8gb Kingston 800mhz
Gigabyte EP35-DS3P
XFX 8800GT/512
Reply to apache_lives

Though I have an E6850 with the slightest of overclocks and I'm very happy with its performance (heck, how could I not be)...I'd recommend going for the Quad. It's more future proof and as has been noted previously, more and more software is being "contemporarilized" ...or increasingly multi-threaded. ...besides, if you must, the Q6600 can be over clocked nicely, as well.

------------------------------ 17" MacBook Pro: 2.66Ghz, 4GB DDR3-1066, 256GB Corsair P256 SSD
Reply to halcyon

What makes you guys think he will OC when he also already mentioned he doenst want to OC.

Imo its not the time to buy CPUs. AMD then Intel will release new ones. Then he will be able to buy slightly better CPUs for the almost same price.

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Archy wrote :

What makes you guys think he will OC when he also already mentioned he doenst want to OC.

Imo its not the time to buy CPUs. AMD then Intel will release new ones. Then he will be able to buy slightly better CPUs for the almost same price.

Im with Archy.. I think he should wait. All the high end parts of today will come down in price and he'll be able to get a q6750 for the price of a q6600 if not just get one of the newer better models.

Just wait a month

Reply to cah027

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The future is multiple cores, if you have the $$$ then get the quad, dont listen to all this BS.

Only because thats the only way at the moment to produce faster processors due to thermal limitations. But this probably wont always be the case. Is it more effecient to run with 1 core at 6ghz or 2 cores at 3ghz. I think not because code has to be implemented to track the other cores.

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a stock E6600 beats a P4 @ 7.4ghz at SuperPi

I should hope so - core 2 is different architecture.

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Reply to WazzaUK

WazzaUK wrote :

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The future is multiple cores, if you have the $$$ then get the quad, dont listen to all this BS.

Only because thats the only way at the moment to produce faster processors due to thermal limitations. But this probably wont always be the case. Is it more effecient to run with 1 core at 6ghz or 2 cores at 3ghz. I think not because code has to be implemented to track the other cores.

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a stock E6600 beats a P4 @ 7.4ghz at SuperPi

I should hope so - core 2 is different architecture.

Thermal Limitations - Nope, the Pentium M (dothan) at 2+ghz back in its day took on most of the desktop cpu's for its day and was a ~30w design taking on 89+w designs - Thermal Limitation my a$$, dual and quad core - increasing performance per mhz and per watt. Scaling - even the Celeron 420 cant exceed speeds of the dual and quad cores - single cores are just about EOL.

------------------------------ Q6600@3510/1560 + TT BigTyphoon+Mod
8gb Kingston 800mhz
Gigabyte EP35-DS3P
XFX 8800GT/512
Reply to apache_lives

first of all guys
i have to say that here is the best forum i ever had , lets say profesional
thank u all
i dont think i will wait becouse it is never over all the time new stuff will come and the prises will go down
i thing my next step will be to learn how to oc my new q6600 cpu.
i am realy think that for the long time it will the best (the q6600)
thanks
sory about my english lol...... :ouch:

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Message edited by zisman on 10-23-2007 at 06:47:33 PM

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zisman wrote :

first of all guys
i have to say that here is the best forum i ever had , lets say profesional
thank u all
i dont think i will wait becouse it is never over all the time new stuff will come and the prises will go down
i thing my next step will be to learn how to oc my new q6600 cpu.
i am realy think that for the long time it will the best (the q6600)
thanks
sory about my english lol...... :ouch:

No worries. Glad you made the right decision

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Reply to yomamafor1

I used to say Q6600 hands down.
But after doing some thinking, I came to the conclusion that a neat E6550 with some OC will serve you better, since performance will be as good BUT with more money in your wallet and less heat on your cooler.

Id even say that you should make it a short-term upgrade with some E2000 series and some low-end P35 mobo (like Foxconn and the likes) until Nehalem arrives with native Quad (I know its NOT better, but you do save a lot of transistors) and next-gen chipset.
At least thats what Im gonna do.

Reply to Ycon

zisman wrote :

first of all guys
i have to say that here is the best forum i ever had , lets say profesional
thank u all
i dont think i will wait becouse it is never over all the time new stuff will come and the prises will go down
i thing my next step will be to learn how to oc my new q6600 cpu.
i am realy think that for the long time it will the best (the q6600)
thanks
sory about my english lol...... :ouch:

Cool. But don't apologize for your English. Many only speak 1 language, you, at least, seem to be communicative in 2. Go with the q6600, you'll likely have more peformance than you'll need, whether you OC or not.

------------------------------ 17" MacBook Pro: 2.66Ghz, 4GB DDR3-1066, 256GB Corsair P256 SSD
Reply to halcyon

E8500 and Q9300 also cost the same price
http://www.dailytech.com/Intel+Pre [...] le9070.htm

Reply to JimyKing

thank u guys
see u next time regarding my new computer oc
the new computer with q6600 is on the way

Reply to zisman

Again... Why is it always between Q6600 and E6850. Q6600 for sure

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Reply to itotallybelieveyou

yomamafor1 wrote :

No worries. Glad you made the right decision

please i need help..
i have a cpu with this specs...
intel core 2 quad 2.40 q660
3 gb ddr2 kingston
512 mb nvidia 8600 gt
and intel dg3pr1 classic mother board
...... i play crysis and maxxed out to high l graphical settings and the lag is so high, why????why???why???

Reply to jansilbastian

nice bump there

The 8600GT is a piece of crap and will never do High on crysis at 20fps+

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