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Ok so I 've been using PC's for about 10 years now but never actually built one from the ground up. This will be my first. Everything is ordered and will be here Thursday.

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I've installed things before like memory , vid cards , sound cards , dvd drives , so things like that are no problem.

Anything else I should know before doing it?


Message edited by thatcrazy on 10-15-2007 at 11:18:40 PM
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Read and follow the directions and don't ASSume. Take your time. Best to test after putting in each component. Have the online version of the mobo manual up, much easier to see things. Follow the directions on the driver CD, i.e., load the drivers in the order suggested and reboot anytime you're asked. Don't celebrate until Windows is installed and booting. :)

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The list of parts looks very good.

I ASSume you know about static and wrist straps :)

Reply to aevm

I know about static but not wrist straps.....

I planned on putting it together on the garage floor on card board to avoid any kind of static shock. Naked LOL

When do you put in the DVD for the mother board drivers? At first boot up? or after windows is installed?


Message edited by thatcrazy on 10-16-2007 at 12:07:13 AM
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You probably already know this, but Vista 32-bit will not recognize all of your RAM. To get the full 4GB you'll need a 64-bit OS.

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Return Vista unopened for XP Pro.

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aevm wrote :

The list of parts looks very good.

I ASSume you know about static and wrist straps :)


Do you have to use a wrist strap? I mean all you do is touch a metal that connects to the earth to discharge most of the electricity. Theoretically.

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Looks good save what homerdog pointed out about the RAM and the 32-bit OS.

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I suggest breadboarding (assembling all the parts on an insulated surface outside the case) the system to test all the parts before you install them inside the case. After one problem build about 5 years ago, I always breadboard. I use a nylon cutting board for an insulated surface.

Whether you do breadboard or not, install the HSF before you install the motherboard in the case. The 4 pushpins that Intel uses to mount it's stock HSF has caused problems before. It is much easier to check for proper installation with motherboard outside the case.

RTFM and doublecheck all of your connections.

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Someone else also posted a "Need help with new build" thread
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/foru [...] ewbie-help

Respondents there have some useful suggestions.

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I know but I didn't want the 64 bit right now. I am not running any 64 bit apps. Theres no reason to get it.
When 64 bit becomes standard stuff then I'll just upgrade to it and buy more memory. Plus I read alot of people have incompatibility problems with it.


"Put simply, running a 64-bit (x64) version of Windows Vista does not make sense for most people, though I suspect that will change over time. While the Vista x64 versions surprised me with their excellent hardware compatibility--a claim I'd never make about Windows XP Professional x64 Edition--nagging software compatibility issues ultimately sunk any hopes I had of moving to the 64-bit system."

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Message edited by thatcrazy on 10-16-2007 at 02:27:16 AM
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thatcrazy wrote :

I know but I didn't want the 64 bit right now. I am not running any 64 bit apps. Theres no reason to get it.
When 64 bit becomes standard stuff then I'll just upgrade to it and buy more memory. Plus I read alot of people have incompatibility problems with it.


It looks like you've already purchased 4GB, so you'll be missing out on about 1 gig if you use a 32-bit OS. You see, 32-bit operating systems can only address 4GB of RAM. Windows uses some of this address space for behind-the-scenes stuff, and your GPU has to get its share too. This cuts into the address space that should be going to your RAM, limiting you to a little over 3GB to work with. You probably won't be able to tell the difference between 3GB and 4GB, so it's not a big deal, but I just thought you should know ;)


Message edited by homerdog on 10-16-2007 at 05:30:30 AM
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That is not true a lot of times you will see up to 3.5GB of ram on a 32bit os. And after you have 3GB is is awesome.

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You are both right. It depends on your video memory. A 256 MB card will allow more RAM than a 320.

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paq7512 wrote :

That is not true a lot of times you will see up to 3.5GB of ram on a 32bit os. And after you have 3GB is is awesome.

nukchebi0 wrote :

You are both right. It depends on your video memory. A 256 MB card will allow more RAM than a 320.


Yep, and his video card has 512MB, so it'll take a sizable chunk. If I were to guess I'd say he'll end up with around 3.2GB.

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Everything was installed but I can't get my sound to work.

I tried putting in a sound blaster audigy card at first but it didn't work. It was installed right and was listed as working properly but there just wasn't any sound..

Than I tried putting in the sound card that came with the motherboard. It just slips right into a small slot onto the motherboard. No sound either... thats the current one I left in. All it says to do in the manual is pop it in its spot and thats it..

Anyone know what to do???


Message edited by thatcrazy on 10-24-2007 at 04:36:54 PM
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First, you should only run one sound card at a time and it would be easier to disable the onboard sound in the BIOS and try the Creative card rather than uninstalling the Creative card. If you've already uninstalled the Creative card, then work with the onboard. Regardless of which card you'll use make sure that the speakers are plugged into the correct plug, if they are colored, it should be the green one. If they're not covered, check the manual that came with the audio card. Make sure the speakers are plugged in and turned on. Check the sound card software and make sure nothing is muted. I just installed a new sound card that at first didn't work, found out I ASSumed I had it plugged into the correct connection on the card, which I didn't :o

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maybe it isnt turned on in Bios for the onboard card plugin?


Message edited by thatcrazy on 10-24-2007 at 07:25:48 PM
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[quotemsg=1752665,18,297545]maybe it isnt turned on in Bios for the onboard card plugin?[/quotems

It's possible, check in the BIOS under on board devices and make sure the sound card is enabled. Did you install the on board audio drivers? If I remember correctly, there are drive problems with some Creative cards and Vista.

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