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October 26, 2007 3:36:52 AM

I have a AMD 3500 and a Geforce 6600GT - I plan on getting a 8800GT...I believe my CPU would cause a HUGE bottleneck. I really don't want to spend too much money...and seeing how I have a socket 939 - would a AMD 4200 x2 be a good choice? Would it provided me with almost full usage of the 8800GT? Would changing to AM2 mobo be to expensive? What do you guys suggest.
October 26, 2007 4:22:52 AM

if u change to am2, it will be cheaper than moving to intel. but ofcourse in intel u will get much more improvement than in amd. yes, your current cpu will bottleneck with the vga card. 4200+ will not bottleneck as far as i know. its up to u. the reason y i say intel is that in core 2 duo, if u get the slowest one of it aswell, even then your gpu will not have a bottleneck with the cpu. e4300 will not also have a bottleneckwith the cpu. hope i helped.
October 26, 2007 4:45:39 AM

keep ur current setup but instead of an AMD x2 4200,get yourself an AMD opteron 175/185.these are dual core processors and overclock them .there wont be any bottlenecks.
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October 26, 2007 5:55:27 AM

Contrary to your belief, your CPU will NOT be a bottleneck... unless you game at 800 x 600 ~ 1024 x 768.
October 26, 2007 5:58:39 AM

buy the cheapest amd chip around 1.8-2ghz and it will run 2.4-2.6ghz

you get a massive increase in playablity especially if you run antivirus and anti spware.

you be able to play the game and tunes at once! or hook up 2 monitors and im on one game and listen to music with the other!
October 26, 2007 8:37:49 PM

sunny27 said:
keep ur current setup but instead of an AMD x2 4200,get yourself an AMD opteron 175/185.these are dual core processors and overclock them .there wont be any bottlenecks.


How do you know there wont be a bottleneck? Where do you research this or where are the charts
October 26, 2007 10:21:34 PM

amddiesel said:
How do you know there wont be a bottleneck? Where do you research this or where are the charts



http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&m...

Take a look at those charts. It shows a huge bottleneck for that processor.

If you can afford it, I would suggest a cheap C2D and overclock it. Intels C2D is hard to resist with its overclocking potential.
October 29, 2007 6:33:35 PM

what graphics card are they using in the test
October 29, 2007 7:08:54 PM

what resolution do you run at, that should have been the FIRST question asked.
October 29, 2007 7:54:37 PM

1280x1024
October 30, 2007 3:52:18 AM

That's a pretty low res, yeah you'll be bottlenecked quite a bit, especially on multithreaded games, considering the 8800GT is within 5% of 8800GTX levels.

I like the advice of getting a cheap Opteron 165/175/185, should allow you to overclock to 2.8GHz and is dual core, hey it's no C2D, but it'll be more than enough to run most games, and it's the most cost efficient and convenient upgrade in your situation.
October 30, 2007 4:03:35 AM

what is C2D?
October 30, 2007 5:30:22 AM

qmalik said:
what is C2D?


:lol: 

Core 2 Duo mate, it along with Core 2 Quad are currently the fastest CPUs available... where have you been the past 12 months dude? :ouch: 
October 30, 2007 3:24:39 PM

hehe i know what core 2 duo is...didnt know it went by C2D..makes snese now..lol
October 30, 2007 3:41:28 PM

where have you been for 12 months?
:D 
October 30, 2007 3:55:58 PM

I went from a 3000+ to a 4400+ on my 939 and I got a huge increase in speeds on my multithreaded games just from that. I'd say if you want to keep it cheap go with the 4200 you were looking at or an Opteron. It might still be a little of a bottleneck but not as bad. I'm planning on either an 8800GT or a 3800 series ATI for mine also. The C2D's might be faster but my 939 is not dead yet!
October 30, 2007 5:45:27 PM

FSXFan said:
I went from a 3000+ to a 4400+ on my 939 and I got a huge increase in speeds on my multithreaded games just from that. I'd say if you want to keep it cheap go with the 4200 you were looking at or an Opteron. It might still be a little of a bottleneck but not as bad. I'm planning on either an 8800GT or a 3800 series ATI for mine also. The C2D's might be faster but my 939 is not dead yet!


long live 939! Kinda in the same boat. I have a 4800 chip and need this rig to last six more months as a big time gaming machine and a 8800gt is the ticket
October 30, 2007 5:46:26 PM

Well, my configuration is exactly what you are thinking about buying. --Edit: I have a 8800GTS 640, not a GT

Said that, my answer is: YES, the CPU will be a bottleneck.

In Crysis demo, at the sunrise scene (over a hill), my FPS stays locked at 19, even if I turn down the graphical detail from all High to all Medium, a strong indication that the bottleneck is the CPU.

Looking around for a replacement, I really think I will wait for the Phenoms to come out. Another possibility that I am thinking of is the Athlon 64 X2 5000+ black edition.

I will surely stay away from any 90nm processor from AMD. Mine runs hot and no overclocking possibility whatsoever. Yesterday I tried a little bit and the temperature went sky high with system reset. And I have one of these little monsters: http://www.evercool.com.tw/products/hpc-925.htm.

My advice would be: right now, wait for new AMD CPUs, or buy Intel. Oh, I like AMDs, my only intel was a Pentium 100, but right now is not the time to buy AMD :) 
October 30, 2007 6:47:56 PM

qmalik said:
I have a AMD 3500 and a Geforce 6600GT - I plan on getting a 8800GT...I believe my CPU would cause a HUGE bottleneck. I really don't want to spend too much money...and seeing how I have a socket 939 - would a AMD 4200 x2 be a good choice? Would it provided me with almost full usage of the 8800GT? Would changing to AM2 mobo be to expensive? What do you guys suggest.


Assuming that you already have 1.5-2gb of DDR RAM and an adeuquete power supply, any sub-$100 s939 dual-core (overclocked to 2.6ghz+) will be a huge improvement over your 3500 in more CPU intensive games.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&m...

On the other hand, an e2160/2gb DDR2-800/P35 motherboard combo can be had for a little over $220 USD and will destroy nearly any AMD chip when overclocked. That would be a fantastic budget gaming machine for $620-$690:

$83 - e2160
$95 - P35 Gigabyte mobo
$60 - rebated Corsair or Crucial 2gb DDR2
$55 - Corsair 450vx
$199-249 - Nvidia 8800GT
$40 - Coolermaster Centurion 5
$60 - 250gb Sata
$30 - DVD burner

Hmmm, I wonder how much I could sell my aging Opteron 165/7600gt rig for...
October 30, 2007 7:36:39 PM

Noya said:
Assuming that you already have 1.5-2gb of DDR RAM and an adeuquete power supply, any sub-$100 s939 dual-core (overclocked to 2.6ghz+) will be a huge improvement over your 3500 in more CPU intensive games.
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&m...

On the other hand, an e2160/2gb DDR2-800/P35 motherboard combo can be had for a little over $220 USD and will destroy nearly any AMD chip when overclocked. That would be a fantastic budget gaming machine for $620-$690:

$83 - e2160
$95 - P35 Gigabyte mobo
$60 - rebated Corsair or Crucial 2gb DDR2
$55 - Corsair 450vx
$199-249 - Nvidia 8800GT
$40 - Coolermaster Centurion 5
$60 - 250gb Sata
$30 - DVD burner

Hmmm, I wonder how much I could sell my aging Opteron 165/7600gt rig for...


I dont think any e2150 will blow away any amd chip.. Prove it
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