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I have just installed my power supply into the case. I was just testing and didn't hook anything up to it. I tried turning it on, but it didn't come on. does have to be hooked to the mobo for it to come on? or can it just come on by itself?

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Yes, it must be physically connected to the MB before it will turn on. There are PS testers which when hooked up will allow the PS to come on, and they are rather inexpensive.

Reply to onestar
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Thanks, I was a little worried.

Reply to Gamer81

As you should be worried, what led you to believe that you were capable of working on a computer. :sarcastic: :pt1cable: :bounce:


Message edited by gipctech1974 on 10-26-2007 at 10:49:09 PM
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Man, I needed a laugh today. Thanks. :D

Reply to rgeist554
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Hmm, sorry but this is my first ever built, and I apologize for asking a dumb question. That does not make uncapable to touching the computer as I am C#.net developer for living. I just didn't know. Anyway I have connected everything on the computer and power still is not coming on. Not a click is happening! I am starting to think that the power supply should have come on when I first installed it and without having being connected to the mobo, does anybody know if it should come on without connection to the mobo or not, because it seems that i have a defective PS.

Reply to Gamer81

Power supply troubleshooting 101:

ATX style power supplies do not typically power on unless they are connected and have an appropriate load. That's why someone mentioned a cheap PS tester.

Is the PS plugged into the wall? (hehe, couldn't help myself, you wouldn't believe how many horse-n-buggy types forget to do that)

Does your PS have a 220/110 switch on the back? If so, make sure it's in the right position.

Do you have the 24 pin plugged into the motheboard?

Do you have the 4/8 pin plugged into the motherboard?

Do your motherboard have a light that indicates it's getting any juice?

Do you have the 2 pin power switch plugged into the correct location on your motherboard header?

Did you read the PS/motherboard manual?

Did you buy a quality PS?

Did you buy a quality motherboard?

What time is it in Redmond?

Reply to cbxbiker61
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The only way to get an ATX power supply to turn on without the motherboard (without a tester) is to put a piece of wire into the green wire on the 20/24 pin connector and short it to the nearest black one under it. The green wire is roughly in the middle.

DO NOT do this when the power supply is plugged into the mains. Short it first. Then plug it in.

There are guides floating around google if you want a better explanation. If you're not sure, don't do it.

Reply to MezzFA0
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My "Troubleshooting a New Build" article:
http://www.tomswiki.com/page/Troub [...] +New+Build

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Reply to jsc
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I inserted a pin into the green and black holes and the power supply came on, but when I plug the rest of the wires into the mobo. the power does not come on. I have a gigabyte mobo ds3r. I have two power supplies too 700w and 800w. I don't live in Redmond, lol.

Reply to Gamer81
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also I plugged the atx cable into the mobo and used a crew driver carefully to act as a jumper for the power switch, then a long beep came in, I don't know what the beep means, but i took my hand off right away.

Reply to Gamer81

Um, is the swich on the PSU ON?

Couldn't help it either ;)

What brand PSU is it?

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Reply to Falken699
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Build the system outside the system. I appears you might have a short.

 

Edit: Maybe not a short, read the manual again and check all of your connections carefully, mobo standoffs etc.


Message edited by Zorg on 10-27-2007 at 05:09:06 AM
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EVERYONE LAY OFF THE NOOB, EVERYONE WAS THERE ONCE.

Reply to Zorg
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Post a complete list of specs., model of each component etc.

 

Edit: Nice work guys, you sent him away...real funny...ha ha. Hmm, who's the dork here?


Message edited by Zorg on 10-27-2007 at 05:41:32 AM
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I am still on. I have
Q6600
8800GTS
150GB Raptor
abs 800w power supply
gigabyte ds3r
patriot performance 2 GB RAM

Reply to Gamer81
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I don't know what's wrong. the PS works when I connect the green whole with the black one using a pin. then when I plug it into the mobo, it doesn't work. it worked only one time and I had to jump the power pins using a screw driver. it made a loud beep. Now, I don't know what to do. I am stuck with parts worth about 1600 dollars with the monitor. I got get it working somehow. Are Geek squad expensive? I was thinking of using them as i don't want to spend too much time debugging this crap.

Reply to Gamer81
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Gamer81 wrote :

I don't know what's wrong. the PS works when I connect the green whole with the black one using a pin. then when I plug it into the mobo, it doesn't work. it worked only one time and I had to jump the power pins using a screw driver. it made a loud beep. Now, I don't know what to do. I am stuck with parts worth about 1600 dollars with the monitor. I got get it working somehow. Are Geek squad expensive? I was thinking of using them as i don't want to spend too much time debugging this crap.

I would never consider them, I would rather stick a pencil in my eye, but they could fix it. I don't know how much they cost. Not to be a prick, but did you sit down and take your time reading the manual? Fixing this is going to require you removing the mobo and setting it up outside the case on a piece of cardboard etc. with just the CPU, RAM and VGA and booting. At least try that before you go to the Geek Squad. Also as was mentioned, I think, the PSU tester is relatively cheap. Also If you could localize the problem they could test the part.

 

Edit: Read jsc's trouble shooting guide posted earlier.

 

Getting this to work may take some investment in time from you, but it will be worth it.


Message edited by Zorg on 10-27-2007 at 06:29:27 AM
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Thank you. I am just very frustrated right now. I have seen people posting bad feed back for the mobo I have. I will do what you're saying tomorrow. i read the manual very carefully. I didnt think I missed anything. thanks for help

Reply to Gamer81
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That PSU has some bad reviews on Newegg. 3 DOA, or almost DOA, and 1 with bad rails, out of 9 reviews. That's too many. Try another PSU, beg borrow steal, but try another PSU.

 

Edit: Understand, I don't place a large amount of weight on Newegg reviews but 4 out of 9 is just too many.


Message edited by Zorg on 10-27-2007 at 06:50:22 AM
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Tagan PSUs are be between tier 2 and tier 3, I'm a little non-plussed with the Newegg reviews. Your just not going to get 4 out of 9 people that don't know what they are doing. That doesn't mean yours is bad, but it is certainly suspect.

Reply to Zorg
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Well, I did go to best buy and got a rochetfish PSU, installed it and got the same problem. I will have to take it out of the case like you said and test it. hopefully it will pay off.

Reply to Gamer81
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First of all it is highly unlikely that you would have gotten 2 bad PSUs, but who the hell is rochetfish?

Reply to Zorg
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Thanks, I did what you told me to. I took out the mobo and GC outside the box. It's giving me a continuous long beep. the beep doesn't stop. this is what the manual is saying:
continuous long beeps: graphic card not inserted properly
so I reinserted the graphic card, and I still get the same beep.

Reply to Gamer81
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I don't know if it's the mobo or the or the graphic card now. I have tried reinserting my video card back in there a couple of times now, and it's still giving me this very long beeping sound. I was thinking of swaping it with another video card, but I am not sure if I should go to best buy and get a video card and a mobo or just a video card by itself.

Reply to Gamer81
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I got to work finally outside the case. I am putting it in the case right now. I will let you guys know what happens. thanks

Reply to Gamer81
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ok. so I got it to work outside the case. then I put it in the case, and it doesn't work. bad case? or Short? I will probably go and get a new case to see if that's the problem. what do you guys think?

Reply to Gamer81
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ok, I finally got it to work in the case. I took the SYS_FAN 1 4 pin cable out of the mobo powered it on, and all of sudden...I can see the bios set up on the screen, WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO. Weird problem non the less or it's probably just ME. Anyway I am happy to see it work nontheless and thanks for everyone's help.

Reply to Gamer81
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It's highly unlikely that a case is causing your problems. You do have mobo standoff, right? make sure there are not too many. Check for anywhere that you might be shorting to the case. Unplug all case wires from the header except the power button, or including the PWR and use a screwdreiver on the mobo. unplug and HDD, DVD etc. Run only mobo VGA and RAM.

Reply to Zorg
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Good deal, I was afraid this was going to be lengthy. What system fan has 4 pins? If it is a 3 pin fan then it needs to be plugged into pins 1,2 & 3. If it is a 4 pin, then throw it away and get a new one, they are cheap. I like the antec tricool, they have a slide switch to adjust the speed and they plug into the PSU.


Message edited by Zorg on 10-28-2007 at 12:42:31 AM
Reply to Zorg
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this is exactly what I have on my Antec 900. I have 4 fans, one of them is huge on the top of the case. they plug right into the PSU. I though they needed to be hooked to the mobo somehow, but I guess not. I hooked them all up to the PSU, and they run constantly but they're very quite, so I guess it doesn't really matter. Hey man, you've been real helpful. Thanks a lot, and God Bless....

Reply to Gamer81
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No problem, happy to see a resolution. A lot of people complain about fan noise, I prefer to have them running at max unless the noise bothers me. That's why the Antec tricool are nice because you can set some of them on medium unless you need the extra cooling, then you can turn them up.

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