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is it worth to buy chipset cooler.anyone have experience with chipset cooler?how about cooler master blue ice.it's made of aluminium right?so what the differenet with stock cooler.i'm using gigabyte 965p-ds3 mobo
 

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This 965 board has a hot chipset and not so good heatsink. The chipset temp can rise until 50°C on load and idle around 45°C. Adding a 40mm fan can help reducing temp around 4-6°C, but i change the stock chipset with Noctua NC-U6 and i got 35-38°C.
 

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thanks for the respond.i will give it a try.by the way,u are using geminii right?me also use it.at first week after installation,i get 30 c in idle and less than 40 c load.i'm using conroe e6300 and overclock it to 2.8ghz.months later,i realize that the temp becoming hotter,at 42 c in idle and <50c in load.why this happen?i changed the thermal paste with c.m nano fusion but the temp is still the same.do you have the same experience?
 

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thanks bro,is it important to maintain the lower temp for chipset?is this related to performance in overclocking?i thought that only need to keep the cpu temp only..my cpu is <45c when oc and system 48
 

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ICs don't like heat. They run better if they are cooler and, more importantly, their life is shortened by heat. If there is too much heat then they might fry.
 

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thanks for the info..i will replace my cooler soon.hm..do you know how to check memory temp?
 

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adding a cheap small fan would make a huge difference.
the heatsink on my northbridge was running hot, way too hot to touch. i mounted a small fan from my old 1.5ghz pentium 4 hsf using some zip ties. now it runs cool and its not loud at all.
 

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RAM doesn't have a chip for temperature monitoring, so it's not possible (yet) to check RAM temp.
RAM chips are quite hot on operation, but current RAM has integrated heatspreader so you don't have to worry about RAM heat. But if you are overclocking (raising bus and voltage) your RAM, adding small fan can help their stability.
 

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ok..good info.if i buy high performance ram with 5-5-5-15(800mhz) latencies,how much i can lower the latencies?i saw a expensive ram with colorfull LED..what does it display?
 

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You mean the Crucial Ballistix Tracers??

The lights are unnecessary they flash to how the RAM is operating....
Nothing more or less (get the regular Crucial Ballistix has a rebate)
 

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yes..thanks silverion77,i thought it displays timings or speed.by the way what how you managed to overclock to 3.4ghz?what is the FSB?which graphic card u wanna choose?8800gt or 3800.i also planning to upgrade a new vga but can"t make decision yet
 

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It depends on the FSB and to make sure, you need to check its documentation.

Mostly a 800 or PC6400 DDR2 RAM is running with 1.8v/1.9v with 5-5-5-15 timings, but high perf RAM run on 2v or 2.1 with tighter latencies (4-4-4-12 or 3-4-4-12) and can achieve higher bus.

My OCZ platinum run on 800 bus 5-5-5-15 latencies with 1.8v. On tight latencies (4-4-4-12) i have to raise the voltage until 2.1v. Reducing the FSB to 667, i can set 3-4-4-12 with 2.1v and raising the bus until 1000 5-5-5-15 with 2.1v too.

 

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o..ok.by the way you are using 965p-ds3 mobo right?what your cpu temp?i have problem with my cooler master geminii cooler.at first week after installation i managed to get 30 c in idle and less than 40c in load.then i realized the temp becoming hotter.43 in idle and 50 in load.can you give any advice?
 

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Yep, i saw your thread about that. I don't know exactly how it can happen, but maybe you can try to :

Check the fan, are they spinning normally ?

Check your BIOS on fan settings. If you set in auto, when you just turn on your PC, fan won't spin directly. BIOS will check the CPU temp, at certain value then fan will start to spin with very low rpm and it'll spin faster according the rising of CPU temp. Try to disable the fan option, see if your fan will spin on full rpm, load the OS, check your temp. Are there any changes ?

When my Q6600 at stock speed, after loading the OS, the fan are spinning intermitently at 800 rpm for 4-5 seconds.
When it overclocked, after loading OS, CPU temp idle : 35°C, cores: 48/48/50/51°C fan spin at 876rpm
CPU temp load: 52°C, cores: 66/67/68/70°C fan spin at 1223rpm.

Remove the fan, check if there's dust.

Check if all screw are tight. Or maybe trying to re-apply thermal grease and re-seating the Gemini.





 

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Can't be that high. First, is the pc is a warm climate? If not, my next guess would be dust. You have to keep the pc well ventilated at all times. Are you running the cpu fan(s) at full speed or the same speed as before? You can get an air duster at walmart or computer store, & blow the inside while the pc is off once a month or so. I just did & my cpu temp dropped 2'c.

 

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ok.i will give it a try.wow,you are true,there's so much dust in it.i will clean it and re-apply the thermal paste.thank you so much for your help.
 

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yeah,there's so much dust in it.the fan is running on full rpm.what brand of fan do you use?i use a cheap one only..does this affect the airflow?
 

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The airflow are affected by the shape of fanblade and the rpm. Cheap fan usually without ball bearing which can make lots of noise.
 

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yeah,it make annoying noise...so i need to change my fan,maybe silent cooler master.thanks for the quick respond
 

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Suggested fans:

Noctua (very expensive, but effective and quiet)
Scythe (moderate to expensive, quiet and wide range of outputs)
Silverstone

I would suggest a fan in the 1200-1600 rpm range (since they are nearly silent). Or you could get a 1900-2000 fan to have some headroom and just allow a fan controller or your MB to control it's rotational speed.

Edit: speeds listed are for 120mm fans (I figured that's what you'd want for you Gemini cooler)
 

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Additional chipset cooling is rarely needed and will not improve the performance of your system. Going from stock air cooling to liquid on average yields about an additional 5% to the chipset oc. If you have a stock heat pipe setup you have to figure out how to work around that. At the same time as you void your mother warrenty for removing the chipset cooler in the first place.

My advice don't wast your money.
 

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thanks for the respond.i thought that the higher the rpm,it will make lot of noise..anyway i would give a try at scythe.never heard of this brand and maybe it's quite difficult to get one.oh..actually ive found a cheap but super fan(it is thicker than usual 120mm fan) spins at1800rpm.it's a cheap fan but very noisy..decided not to buy it..