New to Overclocking , have a few questions.
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should i overclock? i have a antec p182 with 4 fans set on high , and a zalman 9700NT running at full speed. i checked bios and i have my cpu running @ 28c and mobo 31c , for some wierd reason i have cpu-z showing me my cpu is running @ 1.6ghz and my memory ( crucial ballistix which is suppose to be 4-4-4-12 ) shows it running @ 5-5-5-18.
what programs can i use to view my temps on windows becuase with MBM5 i cant see any temp readings.
what programs can i use to view my temps on windows becuase with MBM5 i cant see any temp readings.
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For thermal monitoring, you have a few choices:
Core Temp, SpeedFan, or Everest. Each have different features. The first two are free, but Everest you'll have to pay for to get the version that is worth using.
The reason that CPU-z is showing your proc running at 1.6 is Intel Speedstep Technology. It's a power saving feature. Put your CPU under load and look again, it will show the proper speed. Also, if you didn't set your memory timings manually in BIOS, then your motherboard will pickup the SPD settings according to whatever memory you installed. Set all of that manually.
Core Temp, SpeedFan, or Everest. Each have different features. The first two are free, but Everest you'll have to pay for to get the version that is worth using.
The reason that CPU-z is showing your proc running at 1.6 is Intel Speedstep Technology. It's a power saving feature. Put your CPU under load and look again, it will show the proper speed. Also, if you didn't set your memory timings manually in BIOS, then your motherboard will pickup the SPD settings according to whatever memory you installed. Set all of that manually.
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if i set my memory to Manuel and 4-4-4-12 , my computer turns automaticly off and does not turn back on for about a min-2 , then it turns on for about 1 sec and turns off again then it turns on eventually in another 2-3. why is it doing this? am i damaging my pc? im scared lmao.
so why cant i put my memory timings to Default (4-4-4-12) and why it turning off and why is this going on :X im really scared that if i try to mess wit the bios my pc wont turn on again.
so why cant i put my memory timings to Default (4-4-4-12) and why it turning off and why is this going on :X im really scared that if i try to mess wit the bios my pc wont turn on again.
NezaH said:
i did i set it to Manual and put the timings 4-4-4-12 , but hten my pc turned off , i tried turning it on again then for a second it came on and turned off again , then after a minute it went back to normal , what did that happen? im scared to mess wit the bios nowThat's probably a mobo feature. Mine does that too, when your settings are unstable.
o so if the voltage isnet right it wont run @ those settings? well i dont nkow where the voltage thingy is and none are @ 2.2 but there is like 0.1 , 0.2 , and it goes up to 0.7
but what about the mobo setting that it turns off and it wont turn back on , is that a safety thing? im scared that it wont turn back on again and i dont wanna mess wit the mobo by reseting the battery or nething.
but what about the mobo setting that it turns off and it wont turn back on , is that a safety thing? im scared that it wont turn back on again and i dont wanna mess wit the mobo by reseting the battery or nething.
I'm going to sum it up with this.
TIMINGS IS NOT EVERYTHING. THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS. RAISE THE VOLTAGE TO +0.4v (On the Gigabyte).
The reason it's turning off is a failsafe BIOS feature so you don't destroy your computer.
Stop, re-read the explanations and start over, you have no clue what you are doing and you will end up messing up your computer unless you learn and take people's advice.
NOWHERE have I seen you say "I've tried to raise voltage."
Crucial Specs at 2.2v (NOTICE JEDEC STANARD IS 1.8v)
667 MHz - 3-3-3-12
800 MHz - 4-4-4-12
1066 MHz - 5-5-5-18
TIMINGS IS NOT EVERYTHING. THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS. RAISE THE VOLTAGE TO +0.4v (On the Gigabyte).
The reason it's turning off is a failsafe BIOS feature so you don't destroy your computer.
Stop, re-read the explanations and start over, you have no clue what you are doing and you will end up messing up your computer unless you learn and take people's advice.
NOWHERE have I seen you say "I've tried to raise voltage."
Crucial Specs at 2.2v (NOTICE JEDEC STANARD IS 1.8v)
667 MHz - 3-3-3-12
800 MHz - 4-4-4-12
1066 MHz - 5-5-5-18
NezaH said:
ok the other thing is i get how FSB and multiplyers work with the CPU but how do MHZ and timings work with memory? is it better to have my ram @ 800mhz 4-4-4-12 or 1066mhz @ 5-5-5-18 and why?You don't know this and decided to OC?
That's quite dangerous...1066MHz @ 5-5-5-18 would be slightly faster than 800MHz @ 4-4-4-12. Why? 1/1066 x 5 < 1/800 x 4
EDIT: Changed "slower" to "faster".
Evilonigiri said:
You don't know this and decided to OC?
That's quite dangerous...1066MHz @ 5-5-5-18 would be slightly slower than 800MHz @ 4-4-4-12. Why? 1/1066 x 5 < 1/800 x 4
1/1200x5 = 0.0041s
1/1066x5 = 0.0047s
1/800x4 = 0.005s
Actual Numbers:
DDR2-1200 MHz (5-5-5-15):
Int/Floating Bandwidth: 8114.67/8123.33
Latency: 60ns
DDR2-800 MHz (4-4-4-12):
Int/Floating Bandwidth: 7156/7163.33
Latency: 75ns
All testing done on Transcend AxeRam with a 1600 MT/s FSB.
Speed is everything, timings are secondary (imo).
i was searching google for 1066mhz vs 800mhz and i came across this in a post.
"For DDR2-800 PC2-6400 memory I'd look for 5-5-5-15 or better (lower
numbers in any / all positions) timings, and I'd look for 2 or 4
matched model DIMMs of 2GB/DIMM or 1GB/DIMM capacity.
I'd look for voltage of 1.8 (best), 1.9 (good), 2.0 (OK), or 2.1 (OK but
lower would be better) volt specified RAM voltage operation *AT*
800 MHz 5-5-5-15 speed."
so lower the voltage for the memory the better?
"For DDR2-800 PC2-6400 memory I'd look for 5-5-5-15 or better (lower
numbers in any / all positions) timings, and I'd look for 2 or 4
matched model DIMMs of 2GB/DIMM or 1GB/DIMM capacity.
I'd look for voltage of 1.8 (best), 1.9 (good), 2.0 (OK), or 2.1 (OK but
lower would be better) volt specified RAM voltage operation *AT*
800 MHz 5-5-5-15 speed."
so lower the voltage for the memory the better?
The point of that was this:
If there are 2 sets of RAM, both running at 800 MHZ 4-4-4-12 and they have 2 voltages ratings: 1.8v and 2.2v the 1.8v kit is better. Why? Less heat, less mitigation, and it can possibly overclock better because there is more voltage head room.
IF THE RAM IS RATED AT 2.2V WHY THE HELL ARE YOU STILL RUNNING IT BELOW THAT.
EDIT: HAVE YOU EVEN RUN MEMTEST OFF THE BOOT DISK AT 2.2V BEFORE TRYING 1.8V?
If there are 2 sets of RAM, both running at 800 MHZ 4-4-4-12 and they have 2 voltages ratings: 1.8v and 2.2v the 1.8v kit is better. Why? Less heat, less mitigation, and it can possibly overclock better because there is more voltage head room.
IF THE RAM IS RATED AT 2.2V WHY THE HELL ARE YOU STILL RUNNING IT BELOW THAT.
EDIT: HAVE YOU EVEN RUN MEMTEST OFF THE BOOT DISK AT 2.2V BEFORE TRYING 1.8V?
cnumartyr said:
The point of that was this:If there are 2 sets of RAM, both running at 800 MHZ 4-4-4-12 and they have 2 voltages ratings: 1.8v and 2.2v the 1.8v kit is better. Why? Less heat, less mitigation, and it can possibly overclock better because there is more voltage head room.
IF THE RAM IS RATED AT 2.2V WHY THE HELL ARE YOU STILL RUNNING IT BELOW THAT.
EDIT: HAVE YOU EVEN RUN MEMTEST OFF THE BOOT DISK AT 2.2V BEFORE TRYING 1.8V?
I dunno about that, my Patriot RAM is rated at 2.2V and I have to run it at 1.9V in order to be stable. Any higher will cause instabilities.
NezaH said:
ive never ran memtest because i figured if its suppose to run at those speeds it would be stable , so you guys are saying my mobo + ram should be able to pull off a 4-4-4-12 timings @ 1.8v?No, if your ram is rated at 2.2V, you should use 2.2V. I'm just saying if that doesn't work you can try other voltage level just to see if it'll work or not.
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