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November 4, 2007 2:12:42 PM

I don't know about you guys, but it seems that the 8800 GT's are selling between $50-$100 more than they were advertised at!!! That's around 30% more than a week ago!
Should we just not buy them, or go ahead and bite the bullet, putting more $$$$ in the store owners' pockets???

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November 4, 2007 2:14:16 PM

still worth the money for the performance. I have GTX so not that concerned about the GT.
November 4, 2007 2:28:07 PM

I don't know. IIRC the original price was estimated between $250.00 and $300.00. You can get a stock card around $270.00 and overclocked around 300.00. The highest I say was $309.00.

"Estimated" is the key word here when the first reviews hit the net. Not to mention when something as hot at the GT hits the market the price is sure to be a bit more because of the high demand for those who simply have to have one. I have a feeling once they are back in stock the price may be reduced as online retailers start to compete.

Just my two cents.
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November 4, 2007 2:32:26 PM

Worth the money its still cheaper than the 8800GTS and and preforms just
under a GTX. From what iv heard & seen they are great. And best bang for the buck. :) 
November 4, 2007 2:32:56 PM

Many review sites talked about $200-250, which was probably $200 for the 256MB version and $250 for the 512MB version. But reading $200-250 as retail MSRP and seeing $250-310 street prices is understandable but lousy for us too. Hopefully ATI will have an abundance of RV670's at $179-199, and these GT's will drop below list price.
November 4, 2007 2:58:13 PM

pauldh said:
Many review sites talked about $200-250, which was probably $200 for the 256MB version and $250 for the 512MB version. But reading $200-250 as retail MSRP and seeing $250-310 street prices is understandable but lousy for us too. Hopefully ATI will have an abundance of RV670's at $179-199, and these GT's will drop below list price.


I stand corrected. $200-250 sounds right. I forgot about the 256MB version.

Anyway. All the online retailers sure made a boat load. High demand and limited quantities drove the price up. apperintly there wasn't lack of people willing to dish out. I know I did. Only competition will bring it down to where it should be.
November 4, 2007 3:11:58 PM

Supply and Demand are fundamentals when it comes to pricing. There is low supply, and HUGE demand. Naturally prices will go up. And it's not price gouging if every company (e.g eVGA, XFX, MSI etc etc) are pricing higher than what was MSRPed. Give it a few weeks as supply increases and demand decreases, so will the price.
November 4, 2007 3:23:13 PM

Flingpoo said:
I stand corrected. $200-250 sounds right. I forgot about the 256MB version.

Anyway. All the online retailers sure made a boat load. High demand and limited quantities drove the price up. apperintly there wasn't lack of people willing to dish out. I know I did. Only competition will bring it down to where it should be.

You know what, I wasn't trying to correct you at all. I just was mentioning that some reviews popped $200-250 into our expectations of the MSRP (which was correct). So the street prices don't sit well for me either. It's kinda like being told you will get a $1000 bonus but when it comes it's $700 instead. That's nicer than nothing, but doesn't sit well when you expected $1000. HAd they said the 8800GT is $300, we would have said it's the best card $300 can buy and been thrilled to find them for $279-299. But When we drooler over the review benchie charts after reading $200-250, who wants to pay $299.

But evga themselves jacked up their own MSRP on their site to match the numbers you mentioned. SSC now $299, KO now $289, $279 SC, $269 reference. So It's not just etailers like ZipZoom and Newegg doing it, EVGA is just as guilty. Hard to blame them if they themselves can't get enough G92 chips to make card(or enough Foxcon's), but shoot lets have a MSRP and stick to it. Is the reference clock evga 8800GT a $269 MSRP card like evga now states on their site, or is it a $249 card, or is it a $229 card like FRY's said it was at launch? Seeing MSRP go up peeves me off more than etailer gouging.
November 4, 2007 3:45:31 PM

seeing as how the 8800GT IS the best performing card for the money, for the foreseeable future... im not sure its price is really going to decrease by a whole lot at all in the next few weeks, even with reseller competition, and increased supply... since the demand probably wont decrease much, as many, many people still dont own them, at least the ones that may want and can afford them anyhow.

possibly the only real factor that 'may' drive prices down quicker, hopefully, is the arrival of AMDs next card, and thats assuming they compete on a similar price/performance level too... since the 8800GT is already priced under a lot of nvidias current gen cards, at least the MSRP is, and its nearly as fast as their fastest.

thats how i look at it anyhow... just that the price isnt really going to go down to around where it should be, until it has real competition from AMD.
November 4, 2007 4:00:27 PM

the new 8800 GTS with 112 SP's (currently out as EVGA 8800 GTS SSC) beats the 8800 GT SSC at high res. by a couple of FPS.

And even though it costs more (GTS for $400, GT for $300), it still has the dual slot cooler.

btw, this "new" GTS is NOT G92, and doesn't support PCI-E 2.0 or DX 10.1.
November 4, 2007 4:29:03 PM

Price gouging or not it's still $200+ dollars cheaper than a GTX. I think everyone can enjoy having more money in their pocket and getting good frames at the same time. We can all agree on that right?
November 4, 2007 4:37:19 PM

Look at Newegg. They are sold out of every 8800GT listed.
Price will stay higher than the "original $200-250" estimate from NVidia until the pipeline fills. Only then will the G92 chip cost drive market pricing.
November 4, 2007 4:58:19 PM

Isn't everything new comes out overpriced? Technology is always overly priced in it's debut. Just look at the iphone, dropped more than $200 bucks just a couple month later, something to do with supply and demand obviously. ATI's competing card should lower the 8800GT's price.
November 4, 2007 5:18:58 PM

I paid $20 more than I should of but I've had it since last Wed. Worth it too me, awesome card. Gotta watch the temps though.
a b Î Nvidia
November 4, 2007 5:28:33 PM

As it was stated before, supply & demand.

I remember paying about $370 for my E6600 CPU when it first came out. A few of weeks later it dropped to about $320.

November 4, 2007 5:34:06 PM

Unless we're talking about something that you can't live without (food, water, etc) there is no such thing as price gouging. Whatever price is being charged for an 8800 GT is being charged because people are willing to pay it.

If you want government sanctioned price controls, move to Venezuela and see how hard it is to find a gallon of milk. However, for most of the world the market sets the price and the sellers respond accordingly.
November 9, 2007 11:49:30 PM

Seriously, the price gouging with this card is breaking the essence of the card: price/performance.

Do not buy the card on eBay, most of those sellers stocked with lots of cards to resell them. Also, wait until the end of November and see if prices drop.

I preorder the EVGA KO edition JUST BEFORE the price tag jumped from 279.99 to 309.99, so I am sitting on preorder line with the 279.99 price, they say shipping estimate is by January 7th, but I will wait until mid December, anyways I can't do nothing but wait, as I am building my system as money comes in, still need for the Q6600 CPU and the HD.
November 10, 2007 12:30:04 AM

Seriously, it's all about supply demand, or most likely in this case... demand! Such hype over a video card that will most likely be forgotten before too long. The way I see it, save your money, buy top of the line and then don't by again until something blows your existing hardware away. I can't see spending that much on something that'll give you a few more fps. That's just me.
November 10, 2007 12:42:32 AM

I guess we will have to wait til ATI's offerings will put on a cold shower on prices!
BTW the local big box FS listed the evga 8800gt superclock @ $259.99 CDN
(CDN$>US$) in limited quantities. (problem is , no one has them). The local small
shops list them @ $349.99 on order. Interesting enough to the south, Newegg has
a non-refundable policy to purchasers, which just makes you scratch your head to
the hysteria.
November 14, 2007 11:56:34 PM

rodney_ws said:
Unless we're talking about something that you can't live without (food, water, etc) there is no such thing as price gouging. Whatever price is being charged for an 8800 GT is being charged because people are willing to pay it.

If you want government sanctioned price controls, move to Venezuela and see how hard it is to find a gallon of milk. However, for most of the world the market sets the price and the sellers respond accordingly.

When RETAIL stores are charging more than the retail price...that IS price gouging. There is absolutely no excuse for a retail store to charge more than what you can buy it directly from the manufacturer for. EVGA sells their cards cheaper than what Newegg does.

Everybody claims Newegg is so great. If they were so great they wouldn't be taking advantage of and stealing from their customers pockets. Its not like Newegg is some poor mom and pop store down the street desperate for money.

Personally companies like EVGA should stop supplying retail stores who are charging higher than retail prices and sell all their inventory directly to the customer. That way EVGA makes more money and the customer pays less (even at the retail price).

As you can see I'm a little ticked. Considering it looks like the preview benchmarks for the new ATI cards aren't anywhere near the 8800GT, which means this price gouging probably will go on till next spring.



November 18, 2007 3:11:25 PM

Tc17 said:
When RETAIL stores are charging more than the retail price...that IS price gouging. There is absolutely no excuse for a retail store to charge more than what you can buy it directly from the manufacturer for. EVGA sells their cards cheaper than what Newegg does.

Everybody claims Newegg is so great. If they were so great they wouldn't be taking advantage of and stealing from their customers pockets. Its not like Newegg is some poor mom and pop store down the street desperate for money.

Personally companies like EVGA should stop supplying retail stores who are charging higher than retail prices and sell all their inventory directly to the customer. That way EVGA makes more money and the customer pays less (even at the retail price).

As you can see I'm a little ticked. Considering it looks like the preview benchmarks for the new ATI cards aren't anywhere near the 8800GT, which means this price gouging probably will go on till next spring.


You failed economics didn't you? Regardless, the highest markup I have seen is around 15% try ebay and tell me what you find their. Also considering the fact that even with the markup its still a great deal, you just need to shut your mouth.
November 18, 2007 3:53:37 PM

No kidding. tc17 do live in a socialist country? "Waaaaaaaaa! They are charging too much!" If they were charging too much no one would buy them and then they would be forced to lower prices. Just because some website said the price was "$X", why would they keep the price there if they are selling out? Isn't there some law called....oh I don't know....................supply and demand?!?!?!?!?!?!?
November 20, 2007 3:20:51 PM

Quote:
I don't know about you guys, but it seems that the 8800 GT's are selling between $50-$100 more than they were advertised at!!! That's around 30% more than a week ago!
Should we just not buy them, or go ahead and bite the bullet, putting more $$$$ in the store owners' pockets???



I personally would wait knowing that the price will drop shortly.
November 20, 2007 3:49:19 PM

I'm glad i got mine for $223
November 20, 2007 3:56:34 PM

supply and demand, simple as that.

let me take you all back a few years to when Chrysler first released the Dodge Viper..

sticker price around 60k per unit. normal dealer selling price over 80k.. did anyone cry about gouging?? nope. they could only build them so fast, and the public wanted more than they could build (and that still exists today, but to a lesser extant).

Similar to the Ford GT of recent. they frequently sold for more than sticker... yet no one ever yelled 'your gouging us!'
November 20, 2007 4:44:37 PM

Dejavu, it's like the high prices when the Q6600s first came out. I waited and got mine for a good price. If you can't, or don't want to wait you pay the asking price.
November 20, 2007 5:04:38 PM

its supply and demand..its not really gouging its the fact that the demand is double that of the supply...if you go to any hardware site they will say that the 8800GTs are in short supply

as for gouging i JUST ordered a EVGA 8800GT Superclocked w/ Crysis for 300 bucks...now the game is brand new and is 50 bucks so in my eyes i pay 250 for the card...the MSRP. (of course any other brand is 300 so meh...whatever im content..beats paying 525 dollars for a GTX)
a b Î Nvidia
November 20, 2007 5:32:30 PM

Rodney has it right. If you think the price is too high, then don't buy it; it IS as simple as that.
November 20, 2007 6:22:36 PM

i paid for 309 for mine, i feel for the money its the best. at that was the OCed xfx version.

id buy another if i can find it.
November 21, 2007 1:51:51 PM

Look on Ebay
November 26, 2007 4:50:42 PM

Speaking on the 8800 GT, anyone know how big is it? In terms of physical size i mean.
November 26, 2007 5:25:10 PM

they're like 10 pounds more expensive here in the UK
November 26, 2007 5:40:09 PM

As everyone has said, wait a little while the price will drop.
November 26, 2007 8:21:10 PM

thegatekeeper said:
Speaking on the 8800 GT, anyone know how big is it? In terms of physical size i mean.

Just a tad shorter than a GTX at 9" (228.6mm).
November 27, 2007 9:57:25 AM

Flingpoo said:
Just a tad shorter than a GTX at 9" (228.6mm).


Thanks mate.

:bounce: 
November 27, 2007 10:54:53 AM

In the UK the GTX's still go for about £300 at least. Thats over $600. I just paid £200 ($400) for the 700Mhz Asus 8800GT. If you are paying $300 you won't get any sympathy from me at all.
November 27, 2007 11:48:10 AM

You can still get decent prices if you find stores that are not gouging. 1 store start gouging and every other stores started following. Dell sells their cards around MSRP.
November 27, 2007 11:52:57 AM

where's best online site to get a GT sent to sunny Italy?? (even if they're unavailable now. I just don't know who are the best europpeen webtailers.
Thankies
Ryan

P.S - plus can we get a bucket for all these "just my 2 cents" please? there should be enough for my GT pretty soon!
just my 1.3 euro cents (exchange rate - you understand)
November 27, 2007 12:40:37 PM

jamracing said:
I don't know about you guys, but it seems that the 8800 GT's are selling between $50-$100 more than they were advertised at!!! That's around 30% more than a week ago!
Should we just not buy them, or go ahead and bite the bullet, putting more $$$$ in the store owners' pockets???





Don’t over pay the store.
November 28, 2007 6:24:25 PM

I thought this was a UK site, it's full of Americans :)  I'm not being anti-American,,, anyway, i found this --> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Albatron-8800GT-Xtreme-512MB-...
Shader Clock - 1675MHz , i've been to the Albatron site and the above gt doesn't seem to exist, any ideas? it seems a month ago he was selling these at £179, magically they're now being sold for £199.
If they are for real they are the highest spec gt on the market
November 28, 2007 6:35:02 PM

One thing I don't get is that... everyone was PERFECTLY fine paying $270-300 for GTS 320 before the 8800GT launch, but after that only because the MSRP is $250 equals the card not being worth it at $270-300. With this I'm not supporting or even condoning what the store owners are doing, but it's basic Supply & Demand, and to be honest... To pay $30 extra to have it right NOW and be able to play all your games or Save $30-40 and buy it in 3 months, I would gladly pay the premium for it, because those $30 aren't worth it to me over 3-4 months without a great graphics card.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that people need to lay off, if you don't think it's worth it to overpay $30 in order to get it sooner, then it's your choice, but a lot of people out there would gladly shell out the extra money to be able to use that card, and while you are waiting 3-4 months using a dated graphics card and saving a small amount of money, they are playing on maxed settings. It's basic supply & demand, it's not just X or Y shop, it's capitalism... get used to it or you'll inevitably fail in life.
November 28, 2007 7:41:00 PM

First off 8800gt is not a high end card. It is a mid-range card but since Nvidia or AMD hasn't released high end cards yet doesn't mean it's supposed to have high end price.

It's not supposed to be $270-$330 for 8800gt. Nvidia specifically said their low end 8800gt 512meg model is $200.
November 29, 2007 4:26:42 PM

Well... EVGA's MSRP last time I checked was $259.99, but that's besides the point. Neither nvidia nor EVGA (Or any other manufacturer for that matter) can control at what price the retailer decides to sell them for. I would like it as much as the next guy that everything was just peachy and all would work out nice, but we live in a world where even though the manufacturers say one thing the last word is ultimately up to the retailer.

This is a very basic example for you to learn some Econ 101, Let's say the MSRP for a can of coke is $0.40, but a vending machine has them at $0.50. Even though the manufacturer (Coca Cola Company) has stated that they should be sold at $0.40, due to the scarce supply in the designated area (Say you are 1-2 miles away from the nearest supermarket), the machine is set to charge you $0.50 instead of $0.40 (It's a 125% raise over the MSRP!). Some people will say "Screw this! I'm not overpaying for it" and instead walk 2 miles to buy their coke, on the other hand others will be willing to pay the premium in order to get their coke on the spot.

It's pretty much the same as this, the manufacturer can say X or Y but at the end of the day the MSRP is ONLY the Manufacturer SUGGESTED Retail Price, meaning it's not a universal law that all retailers have to follow, but rather a guidance on how to price their stock. As I said before, this is capitalism, get used to it or I see a very grim future for you.
November 30, 2007 5:16:33 AM

marvelous211 said:
First off 8800gt is not a high end card. It is a mid-range card but since Nvidia or AMD hasn't released high end cards yet doesn't mean it's supposed to have high end price.

It's not supposed to be $270-$330 for 8800gt. Nvidia specifically said their low end 8800gt 512meg model is $200.

Last thing I saw was MSRP
8800GT 512 = $249
8800GT 256 = $199

This was right before the release
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