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X1950 Pro 512MB vs 8800GT - worth the upgrade?

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November 4, 2007 9:13:14 PM

I just finished my system build about a month and a half ago and I'm already wanting to get rid of my Sapphire X1950 Pro 512mb. Here are my specs:

ASUS P5k-E/WIFI mobo
Intel E6750 cpu
2 1 gigs sticks of Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1066
Sapphire X1950 Pro 512MB PCI-E
Corsair HX520 PSU
Antec 900 case

The X1950 Pro is powerful enough for my gaming needs (I didn't do much gaming before this build but I've really enjoyed playing TF2 at maxed settings) although it has it short comings. I'm experiencing issues with the drivers conflicting with Windows Media Player that lead to explorer crashing and I've heard terrible things about CCC7.10. I'm also having issues loading Ubuntu onto my system and I've heard NVIDIA drivers work much better with Linux than ATI drivers. The X1950 Pro is also a complete power hog (Sapphire's tech support insists that my PSU isn't putting out enough amps for the card) so I feel like I either need to upgrade my PSU or find a card that doesn't draw as many amps. That leads me to my last point... Sapphire's tech support is absolutely TERRIBLE; I'll spare you guys the details but I don't intend to buy another Sapphire product and would like to get rid of this one out of principle.

So, would the 8800GT be a significant upgrade from the X1950 Pro 512mb? I'd like to play Crysis but keep in mind I'm running XP and don't intend to put Vista on this machine until they release the first service pack for it.

How many amps does it require on the 12v rail? Also, which manufacturer would you suggest (preferably one with decent tech support)?

By the way, how much do you think my card will fetch on ebay? :lol: 

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a b U Graphics card
November 4, 2007 9:47:40 PM

X1950 Pro "Minimum 450 Watts PSU with combined 30 amps on both +12V rail(s) required"
8800GT \"Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 22 Amp Amps.\" From EVGA products page" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EVGA products page for Superclocked version.
Your Corsair 520HX has 40 amps of +12V.
Hard to believe Sapphire's tech support was pointing at the your PSU.

Without knowing what games and gaming resolution you use its hard to say just how much of an upgrade an 8800GT would be - but this might give you an idea:

Bunch of other benchmarks in the complete 8800GT review article here

With a new 1950Pro selling for $150 you'll be lucky to get $100 even for your \"low mileage\" card.
It's probably a good idea to go hang out on some of the
Ubuntu/Linux forums and scope out the GPU/Driver recommendations.
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a b U Graphics card
November 4, 2007 9:48:09 PM

oh my, with your system, and for Crysis, the 8800GT is a huge step up. Go for it, and as chookman said, your fine with that Corsair power supply.

Ckeck out this crysis performance article. The 8800GT gets better performance at high details than the X1950 pro does at medium.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2


November 4, 2007 9:56:08 PM

Thanks a ton, guys. I'm sure you're all tired of the 8800GT threads so I really appreciate your input on my situation
November 5, 2007 5:27:17 AM

Just one Question , that benchmark result you posted is totally crap

here see this :

I have a Powercolor X1950PRO 256 GDDR3 @stock
I run Crysis on 1027x768 with all settings on high except shaders and shadows set to medium .

I didn't run the benchmark but the worse score was 22 and the best one 48
( High fps / Min Fps ) .

So I dont think at 1280x1024 it will get punt down to 7 !


here's a benchmark on medium



UT3:
http://www.legionhardware.com/docu [...] id=693&p=5

COD4: (only shows X1950 pro vs 7900GT and up)
http://www.legionhardware.com/docu [...] id=693&p=5

Bioshock:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardwar [...] /page8.asp

a b U Graphics card
November 5, 2007 3:20:12 PM

cryptonix, there is a huge difference between 10x7 with medium shaders and shadows, and 12x10 with high shaders and shadows. Try it for yourself an you may find single digit framerates too. Until you try it, there is no way to say it's not the case.

The legion hardware crysis benchmarks show the X1950 pro ave fps as 36 at 12x8 medium. But who knows how it would have done at 14x9 high? Look at the HD2900XT. AT 12x8 medium it averages 85 fps, but bump up the res one notch and set details to high and it averages 36 fps. If the HD2900XT goes from 86 to 36, why couldn't the X1950 pro go from 36 to 9? I know shaders and shadows both on medium alone boosted my 8800GT near 10 fps. Now imaging a resolution boost too at the same time.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2
June 6, 2008 8:16:20 AM

The 8800gt is vastly quicker than the 1950pro... I have had one OCed running on a PSU that didnt meet the stated requirements and everything was fine.

June 6, 2008 8:51:21 AM

If you wait a couple of weeks more you'd get the Radeon 4870.

There are chances that little bro 4850 would outperform 8800GT for the same price. So wait for the benchmarks at least before buying 8800GT
a b U Graphics card
June 6, 2008 9:41:16 AM

7 month old thread :) 
June 6, 2008 9:46:37 AM

hehehe..i hadn't realized :D 
a b U Graphics card
June 6, 2008 9:59:19 AM

lol, I've been there and done that too. Just didn't want to see it keep on going. ;) 
June 6, 2008 10:55:02 AM

lol how did i find it?
June 6, 2008 11:02:33 AM

I would recommend to wait until 23rd and buy an 4850 it will be faster than 8800GT by 20-30% at least
for $200
June 6, 2008 11:09:30 AM

lmao...not another one :p 
June 6, 2008 12:18:52 PM

If you thought 1950 pro was a power hog than 8800gt is too. Sapphire is crazy if they think Corsair 520 watt isn't enough to power a 1950pro.

It you are only into TF2 I don't see why you would need 8800gt.
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